Brother and I went for a bike ride to West Virginia on Saturday. Rented a brand new Harley for
him,$125 for 24 hours, which I thought was very reasonable. Had a great time on some WV roads that
seem to have been designed by a motorcyclist. Put 380 miles on the bikes with no problems. He was a
motorcycle cop for a bunch of years, so I figured he'd be on my butt in the twisties. But, a Harley
just won't do it. This was a 2017 Harley, all decked out. Beautiful bike, if you like 'em. But it
couldn't keep up with a 28 year-old Guzzi.

Maybe we should have borrowed your Ducati, eh Harry?

5:21 AMPoco Deplorevole
Brother and I went for a bike ride to West Virginia on Saturday. Rented a brand new Harley for
him,$125 for 24 hours, which I thought was very reasonable. Had a great time on some WV roads that
seem to have been designed by a motorcyclist. Put 380 miles on the bikes with no problems. He was a
motorcycle cop for a bunch of years, so I figured he'd be on my butt in the twisties. But, a Harley
just won't do it. This was a 2017 Harley, all decked out. Beautiful bike, if you like 'em. But it
couldn't keep up with a 28 year-old Guzzi.

Maybe we should have borrowed your Ducati, eh Harry?
.....

I think I need to clean the sprayed coffee off my iPhone. Good thing it's in a protective case

On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 06:21:53 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Brother and I went for a bike ride to West Virginia on Saturday. Rented a brand new Harley for
him,$125 for 24 hours, which I thought was very reasonable. Had a great time on some WV roads that
seem to have been designed by a motorcyclist. Put 380 miles on the bikes with no problems. He was a
motorcycle cop for a bunch of years, so I figured he'd be on my butt in the twisties. But, a Harley
just won't do it. This was a 2017 Harley, all decked out. Beautiful bike, if you like 'em. But it
couldn't keep up with a 28 year-old Guzzi.

Maybe we should have borrowed your Ducati, eh Harry?

What Harley? Dresser? I bet he could have kept up with you on a
Sportster. My 72 could run with the Ring Dings.

1:15
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What Harley? Dresser? I bet he could have kept up with you on a
Sportster. My 72 could run with the Ring Dings.
.....

Greg, I don't think it was the speed but the handling was n the curves. Yes adresser can be nimble but that's a lot of flab to be throwing around especially while braking in a hard curve... my old Yamaha rods were great about dosing the big bikes in the hard twists.

On Mon, 5 Jun 2017 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


1:15
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What Harley? Dresser? I bet he could have kept up with you on a
Sportster. My 72 could run with the Ring Dings.
....

Greg, I don't think it was the speed but the handling was n the curves. Yes adresser can be nimble but that's a lot of flab to be throwing around especially while braking in a hard curve... my old Yamaha rods were great about dosing the big bikes in the hard twists.

Sportsers are not that heavy and pretty nimble. The one I had was also
stroked so it had a lot of low end torque to get going again if you
slowed down. It was pretty "sporty". I still preferred the 72
Superglide tho.

On Mon, 5 Jun 2017 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
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Sportsers are not that heavy and pretty nimble. The one I had was also
stroked so it had a lot of low end torque to get going again if you
slowed down. It was pretty "sporty". I still preferred the 72
Superglide tho.
...,.

The "superglude" helped put HD back on the map. I almost bought a Captain America once. By the time I got the funds together, it was gone. Never really liked the Night Train though.

On Mon, 5 Jun 2017 12:42:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:


On Mon, 5 Jun 2017 11:22:36 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:
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Sportsers are not that heavy and pretty nimble. The one I had was also
stroked so it had a lot of low end torque to get going again if you
slowed down. It was pretty "sporty". I still preferred the 72
Superglide tho.
..,.

The "superglude" helped put HD back on the map. I almost bought a Captain America once. By the time I got the funds together, it was gone. Never really liked the Night Train though.

I think my 72 may have been a Captain America (the one with the funny
seat) when it was new but it was dressed like a sportster when I got
it.

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/72%20harley.jpg

On 6/5/2017 2:22 PM, Tim wrote:

1:15
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What Harley? Dresser? I bet he could have kept up with you on a
Sportster. My 72 could run with the Ring Dings.
....

Greg, I don't think it was the speed but the handling was n the curves. Yes adresser can be nimble but that's a lot of flab to be throwing around especially while braking in a hard curve... my old Yamaha rods were great about dosing the big bikes in the hard twists.


The big Harleys are meant for cruising, not nimble performance or cornering.

3:00 PMMr. Luddite
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The big Harleys are meant for cruising, not nimble performance or cornering.
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Definitely. An FL sure isn't a Sportster...

On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 14:15:23 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 05 Jun 2017 06:21:53 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Brother and I went for a bike ride to West Virginia on Saturday. Rented a brand new Harley for
him,$125 for 24 hours, which I thought was very reasonable. Had a great time on some WV roads that
seem to have been designed by a motorcyclist. Put 380 miles on the bikes with no problems. He was a
motorcycle cop for a bunch of years, so I figured he'd be on my butt in the twisties. But, a Harley
just won't do it. This was a 2017 Harley, all decked out. Beautiful bike, if you like 'em. But it
couldn't keep up with a 28 year-old Guzzi.

Maybe we should have borrowed your Ducati, eh Harry?

What Harley? Dresser? I bet he could have kept up with you on a
Sportster. My 72 could run with the Ring Dings.

Yeah, a dresser. I asked him if he thought a Sportster would handle twisties as well as my Guzzi.
His answer, "No way." The Sportster would be more maneuverable than the full dresser, but still not
like a Guzzi. He's owned Guzzi's also.