On 6/3/2017 5:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/3/17 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:32:45 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Greg had the 1912 Evinrude, signed by Ole Evinrude himself and with
210,000 hours on it.

Funny you say that. I did have a 1924 Evinrude I got for $25 from the
same little old lady who sold me the 1974 7.5 HP merc I used on my 12'
jon boat for years. (both for $300).
I still have the 7.5 but I gave the old 'rude to a collector here. I
am sure I could have sold it for a handsome profit but this was a good
guy who appreciated it. I am sure it is restored to like new condition
by now. It is what he does.



My dad always had some really old Evinrudes in the shop, but I don't
recall what most of them were. I do remember, though, a 50 hp monster
from post WWII that he stuck on a 13' speedboat he built to race around
Long Island Sound.

Found a photo of one:

http://tinyurl.com/y9exrwyc


Don't think that's a 50 hp outboard. The spec says "3hp at 3000 RPM.

On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 18:16:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/3/2017 5:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/3/17 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:32:45 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Greg had the 1912 Evinrude, signed by Ole Evinrude himself and with
210,000 hours on it.

Funny you say that. I did have a 1924 Evinrude I got for $25 from the
same little old lady who sold me the 1974 7.5 HP merc I used on my 12'
jon boat for years. (both for $300).
I still have the 7.5 but I gave the old 'rude to a collector here. I
am sure I could have sold it for a handsome profit but this was a good
guy who appreciated it. I am sure it is restored to like new condition
by now. It is what he does.



My dad always had some really old Evinrudes in the shop, but I don't
recall what most of them were. I do remember, though, a 50 hp monster
from post WWII that he stuck on a 13' speedboat he built to race around
Long Island Sound.

Found a photo of one:

http://tinyurl.com/y9exrwyc


Don't think that's a 50 hp outboard. The spec says "3hp at 3000 RPM.


That is not the same one. That looks newer

On 6/4/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 18:16:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/3/2017 5:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/3/17 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:32:45 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Greg had the 1912 Evinrude, signed by Ole Evinrude himself and with
210,000 hours on it.

Funny you say that. I did have a 1924 Evinrude I got for $25 from the
same little old lady who sold me the 1974 7.5 HP merc I used on my 12'
jon boat for years. (both for $300).
I still have the 7.5 but I gave the old 'rude to a collector here. I
am sure I could have sold it for a handsome profit but this was a good
guy who appreciated it. I am sure it is restored to like new condition
by now. It is what he does.



My dad always had some really old Evinrudes in the shop, but I don't
recall what most of them were. I do remember, though, a 50 hp monster
from post WWII that he stuck on a 13' speedboat he built to race around
Long Island Sound.

Found a photo of one:

http://tinyurl.com/y9exrwyc


Don't think that's a 50 hp outboard. The spec says "3hp at 3000 RPM.


That is not the same one. That looks newer



I think Harry must have posted and referenced the wrong image. The one
he referenced was definitely *not* a fifty horsepower outboard. It had
a built-in gas tank for cripes sake. Maybe when he typed his post he
missed putting a decimal point after the "5" and meant to say "5.0
horsepower". None the less, the spec on the image he posted said "3hp
at 3000 RPM.

Following WWII outboards fell in the 1.5 hp to 25 hp range.
In 1958 OMC introduced a four cylinder, 50 hp outboard that used a
combination of Johnson designed and Evinrude designed components. The
head was aluminum (from Johnson) and the steel parts were from Evinrude.

When I was a kid I had a fascination with outboards and the horsepower
race between Mercury, Johnson and Evinrude. In those days Johnson and
Evinrude were not the same designs even though they were both owned by
OMC. They marketed different engines in different horsepower ratings.
Evinrude was considered the "higher end" motor and Johnson was the more
bare bones alternative.

Mercury usually won the horsepower rating race every year as the new
lineups were announced. Their "Tower of Power" design won most of the
races and comparisons.

On 6/4/17 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/4/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 18:16:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/3/2017 5:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/3/17 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:32:45 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Greg had the 1912 Evinrude, signed by Ole Evinrude himself and with
210,000 hours on it.

Funny you say that. I did have a 1924 Evinrude I got for $25 from the
same little old lady who sold me the 1974 7.5 HP merc I used on my 12'
jon boat for years. (both for $300).
I still have the 7.5 but I gave the old 'rude to a collector here. I
am sure I could have sold it for a handsome profit but this was a good
guy who appreciated it. I am sure it is restored to like new condition
by now. It is what he does.



My dad always had some really old Evinrudes in the shop, but I don't
recall what most of them were. I do remember, though, a 50 hp monster
from post WWII that he stuck on a 13' speedboat he built to race around
Long Island Sound.

Found a photo of one:

http://tinyurl.com/y9exrwyc


Don't think that's a 50 hp outboard. The spec says "3hp at 3000 RPM.


That is not the same one. That looks newer



I think Harry must have posted and referenced the wrong image. The one
he referenced was definitely *not* a fifty horsepower outboard. It had
a built-in gas tank for cripes sake. Maybe when he typed his post he
missed putting a decimal point after the "5" and meant to say "5.0
horsepower". None the less, the spec on the image he posted said "3hp
at 3000 RPM.

Following WWII outboards fell in the 1.5 hp to 25 hp range.
In 1958 OMC introduced a four cylinder, 50 hp outboard that used a
combination of Johnson designed and Evinrude designed components. The
head was aluminum (from Johnson) and the steel parts were from Evinrude.

When I was a kid I had a fascination with outboards and the horsepower
race between Mercury, Johnson and Evinrude. In those days Johnson and
Evinrude were not the same designs even though they were both owned by
OMC. They marketed different engines in different horsepower ratings.
Evinrude was considered the "higher end" motor and Johnson was the more
bare bones alternative.

Mercury usually won the horsepower rating race every year as the new
lineups were announced. Their "Tower of Power" design won most of the
races and comparisons.




I suggest you look more closely at the fuzzy specs on the photo I
posted. It is a 50 hp BIG FOUR cylinder Evinrude and "built-in" gas
tanks were common. Note the handles on the engine on both sides and
compare with the vids of the similar engine that are available.

Here's a vid of an even earlier Evinrude Big Four 50-hp outboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXkRHtUZoQI

Merc had some engines on which it seriously underrated the output and
they sold well for lake use, but they had corrosion problems in those
days in salt water use.

On 6/4/2017 8:30 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/4/17 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/4/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 18:16:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/3/2017 5:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/3/17 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:32:45 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Greg had the 1912 Evinrude, signed by Ole Evinrude himself and with
210,000 hours on it.

Funny you say that. I did have a 1924 Evinrude I got for $25 from the
same little old lady who sold me the 1974 7.5 HP merc I used on my
12'
jon boat for years. (both for $300).
I still have the 7.5 but I gave the old 'rude to a collector here. I
am sure I could have sold it for a handsome profit but this was a
good
guy who appreciated it. I am sure it is restored to like new
condition
by now. It is what he does.



My dad always had some really old Evinrudes in the shop, but I don't
recall what most of them were. I do remember, though, a 50 hp monster
from post WWII that he stuck on a 13' speedboat he built to race
around
Long Island Sound.

Found a photo of one:

http://tinyurl.com/y9exrwyc


Don't think that's a 50 hp outboard. The spec says "3hp at 3000 RPM.


That is not the same one. That looks newer



I think Harry must have posted and referenced the wrong image. The
one he referenced was definitely *not* a fifty horsepower outboard.
It had
a built-in gas tank for cripes sake. Maybe when he typed his post he
missed putting a decimal point after the "5" and meant to say "5.0
horsepower". None the less, the spec on the image he posted said "3hp
at 3000 RPM.

Following WWII outboards fell in the 1.5 hp to 25 hp range.
In 1958 OMC introduced a four cylinder, 50 hp outboard that used a
combination of Johnson designed and Evinrude designed components. The
head was aluminum (from Johnson) and the steel parts were from Evinrude.

When I was a kid I had a fascination with outboards and the horsepower
race between Mercury, Johnson and Evinrude. In those days Johnson and
Evinrude were not the same designs even though they were both owned by
OMC. They marketed different engines in different horsepower ratings.
Evinrude was considered the "higher end" motor and Johnson was the
more bare bones alternative.

Mercury usually won the horsepower rating race every year as the new
lineups were announced. Their "Tower of Power" design won most of the
races and comparisons.




I suggest you look more closely at the fuzzy specs on the photo I
posted. It is a 50 hp BIG FOUR cylinder Evinrude and "built-in" gas
tanks were common. Note the handles on the engine on both sides and
compare with the vids of the similar engine that are available.

Here's a vid of an even earlier Evinrude Big Four 50-hp outboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXkRHtUZoQI

Merc had some engines on which it seriously underrated the output and
they sold well for lake use, but they had corrosion problems in those
days in salt water use.


My apologies. I *did* look closely at the fuzzy specs ... in fact I
copied and downloaded the image using Infraview. I could swear the
second line says, "3 hp at 3000 RPM.

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/4/2017 8:30 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/4/17 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/4/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 18:16:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/3/2017 5:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/3/17 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:32:45 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Greg had the 1912 Evinrude, signed by Ole Evinrude himself and with
210,000 hours on it.

Funny you say that. I did have a 1924 Evinrude I got for $25 from the
same little old lady who sold me the 1974 7.5 HP merc I used on my
12'
jon boat for years. (both for $300).
I still have the 7.5 but I gave the old 'rude to a collector here. I
am sure I could have sold it for a handsome profit but this was a
good
guy who appreciated it. I am sure it is restored to like new
condition
by now. It is what he does.



My dad always had some really old Evinrudes in the shop, but I don't
recall what most of them were. I do remember, though, a 50 hp monster
from post WWII that he stuck on a 13' speedboat he built to race
around
Long Island Sound.

Found a photo of one:

http://tinyurl.com/y9exrwyc


Don't think that's a 50 hp outboard. The spec says "3hp at 3000 RPM.


That is not the same one. That looks newer



I think Harry must have posted and referenced the wrong image. The
one he referenced was definitely *not* a fifty horsepower outboard.
It had
a built-in gas tank for cripes sake. Maybe when he typed his post he
missed putting a decimal point after the "5" and meant to say "5.0
horsepower". None the less, the spec on the image he posted said "3hp
at 3000 RPM.

Following WWII outboards fell in the 1.5 hp to 25 hp range.
In 1958 OMC introduced a four cylinder, 50 hp outboard that used a
combination of Johnson designed and Evinrude designed components. The
head was aluminum (from Johnson) and the steel parts were from Evinrude.

When I was a kid I had a fascination with outboards and the horsepower
race between Mercury, Johnson and Evinrude. In those days Johnson and
Evinrude were not the same designs even though they were both owned by
OMC. They marketed different engines in different horsepower ratings.
Evinrude was considered the "higher end" motor and Johnson was the
more bare bones alternative.

Mercury usually won the horsepower rating race every year as the new
lineups were announced. Their "Tower of Power" design won most of the
races and comparisons.




I suggest you look more closely at the fuzzy specs on the photo I
posted. It is a 50 hp BIG FOUR cylinder Evinrude and "built-in" gas
tanks were common. Note the handles on the engine on both sides and
compare with the vids of the similar engine that are available.

Here's a vid of an even earlier Evinrude Big Four 50-hp outboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXkRHtUZoQI

Merc had some engines on which it seriously underrated the output and
they sold well for lake use, but they had corrosion problems in those
days in salt water use.


My apologies. I *did* look closely at the fuzzy specs ... in fact I
copied and downloaded the image using Infraview. I could swear the
second line says, "3 hp at 3000 RPM.


I agree it looks that way to me, too, but the first line seems to say 50
hp. And the rest of the specs indicate an engine much larger than 3 hp, and
so fo the vids.

--
Posted with my iPhone 7+.

On 6/4/2017 8:30 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/4/17 7:07 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 6/4/2017 1:03 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 18:16:43 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 6/3/2017 5:17 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/3/17 4:02 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:32:45 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

Greg had the 1912 Evinrude, signed by Ole Evinrude himself and with
210,000 hours on it.

Funny you say that. I did have a 1924 Evinrude I got for $25 from the
same little old lady who sold me the 1974 7.5 HP merc I used on my
12'
jon boat for years. (both for $300).
I still have the 7.5 but I gave the old 'rude to a collector here. I
am sure I could have sold it for a handsome profit but this was a
good
guy who appreciated it. I am sure it is restored to like new
condition
by now. It is what he does.



My dad always had some really old Evinrudes in the shop, but I don't
recall what most of them were. I do remember, though, a 50 hp monster
from post WWII that he stuck on a 13' speedboat he built to race
around
Long Island Sound.

Found a photo of one:

http://tinyurl.com/y9exrwyc


Don't think that's a 50 hp outboard. The spec says "3hp at 3000 RPM.


That is not the same one. That looks newer



I think Harry must have posted and referenced the wrong image. The
one he referenced was definitely *not* a fifty horsepower outboard.
It had
a built-in gas tank for cripes sake. Maybe when he typed his post he
missed putting a decimal point after the "5" and meant to say "5.0
horsepower". None the less, the spec on the image he posted said "3hp
at 3000 RPM.

Following WWII outboards fell in the 1.5 hp to 25 hp range.
In 1958 OMC introduced a four cylinder, 50 hp outboard that used a
combination of Johnson designed and Evinrude designed components. The
head was aluminum (from Johnson) and the steel parts were from Evinrude.

When I was a kid I had a fascination with outboards and the horsepower
race between Mercury, Johnson and Evinrude. In those days Johnson and
Evinrude were not the same designs even though they were both owned by
OMC. They marketed different engines in different horsepower ratings.
Evinrude was considered the "higher end" motor and Johnson was the
more bare bones alternative.

Mercury usually won the horsepower rating race every year as the new
lineups were announced. Their "Tower of Power" design won most of the
races and comparisons.




I suggest you look more closely at the fuzzy specs on the photo I
posted. It is a 50 hp BIG FOUR cylinder Evinrude and "built-in" gas
tanks were common. Note the handles on the engine on both sides and
compare with the vids of the similar engine that are available.

Here's a vid of an even earlier Evinrude Big Four 50-hp outboard.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXkRHtUZoQI

Merc had some engines on which it seriously underrated the output and
they sold well for lake use, but they had corrosion problems in those
days in salt water use.


When I was a kid (10-13 years old) my family used to spend summers on a
small lake that was about a 3/4 of a mile long and maybe half a mile wide.

We had a motorboat (14 footer) with a 50 hp Johnson on it that we used
for water skiing and generally fooling around. Running wide open or
close to wide open a 5 gallon gas tank was good for about 5 or 6
circular circuits around the lake. Don't know how much gas that built
in tank held on that early Evinrude but running it like the guy in the
video is doesn't seem like you'd have much range.

On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 08:30:55 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Merc had some engines on which it seriously underrated the output and
they sold well for lake use, but they had corrosion problems in those
days in salt water use.

When I was at that Teamster confab at the Lake of the Ozarks (1960 or
so) there was a guy who raced on the Mississippi and he swore the Merc
85hp twins he had were more powerful than the brand new 100 HP motors.
They were tricked up a bit tho, His aluminum cat boat would do well
over 60 and that was flying in those days. Now days any garden variety
flats or bass boat will run 60. (But they are running 200-250 HP
outboards)

On 6/4/17 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 08:30:55 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Merc had some engines on which it seriously underrated the output and
they sold well for lake use, but they had corrosion problems in those
days in salt water use.

When I was at that Teamster confab at the Lake of the Ozarks (1960 or
so) there was a guy who raced on the Mississippi and he swore the Merc
85hp twins he had were more powerful than the brand new 100 HP motors.
They were tricked up a bit tho, His aluminum cat boat would do well
over 60 and that was flying in those days. Now days any garden variety
flats or bass boat will run 60. (But they are running 200-250 HP
outboards)


Merc was especially famous for outboards labeled 10 hp for lakes that
had a 10 hp restriction. They were more like 20 or 25 hp.

On 6/4/2017 10:48 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 6/4/17 10:35 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 4 Jun 2017 08:30:55 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

Merc had some engines on which it seriously underrated the output and
they sold well for lake use, but they had corrosion problems in those
days in salt water use.

When I was at that Teamster confab at the Lake of the Ozarks (1960 or
so) there was a guy who raced on the Mississippi and he swore the Merc
85hp twins he had were more powerful than the brand new 100 HP motors.
They were tricked up a bit tho, His aluminum cat boat would do well
over 60 and that was flying in those days. Now days any garden variety
flats or bass boat will run 60. (But they are running 200-250 HP
outboards)


Merc was especially famous for outboards labeled 10 hp for lakes that
had a 10 hp restriction. They were more like 20 or 25 hp.


I always got a kick out of the "9.9 hp" ratings. Around here the
restrictions were on 10 hp and up.