On 5/25/2017 6:25 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/24/2017 12:40 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 12:29:43 PM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:19:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:35:03 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Anyone use one of these systems? I'm thinking of putting this on the RV. Seen too many horrific
results of blowouts on the highway.

http://eezrvproduct.com/products/tir...systems-tpms-4

We have them on the Lincoln. Expect to replace some sensors whenever
they break down a tire because the tire guys usually trash them.

I suppose I could always take off the sensors before any tire work is done.

I think Greg is talking about the factory internal sensors. Both my car and my wife's has those, and we've had new tires mounted and haven't lost one yet. I'm sure it does happen though.

The system you're looking at has external sensors which replace the valve stem cap, so as you say, you could just remove them and replace with the plastic caps until the tire work is complete.

BTW, the Amazon reviews were very positive. One thing I did notice is that someone said the monitor placement was critical in getting a good, solid signal from all the sensors.



I've had several cars with the factory tire pressure monitoring systems.

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.


Don't know how the system you are looking at for your 5'ver works but
the factory systems look for a difference in pressure in one compared to
the others. As Greg said it seems to be about 4 psi or so. In other
words, if *all* the tire pressures go up or down uniformly, no warning
is given. Some however, like the one in the Altima I am currently
driving allows you to read actual pressures in each tire on the
dashboard display. This is the first car I've had that does that.
The others simply displayed a warning if one of the tires lost pressure
and you had to check each one manually to find the culprit.



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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2017 6:25 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/24/2017 12:40 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 12:29:43 PM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:19:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:35:03 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Anyone use one of these systems? I'm thinking of putting this on
the RV. Seen too many horrific
results of blowouts on the highway.

http://eezrvproduct.com/products/tir...systems-tpms-4

We have them on the Lincoln. Expect to replace some sensors whenever
they break down a tire because the tire guys usually trash them.

I suppose I could always take off the sensors before any tire work is done.

I think Greg is talking about the factory internal sensors. Both my
car and my wife's has those, and we've had new tires mounted and
haven't lost one yet. I'm sure it does happen though.

The system you're looking at has external sensors which replace the
valve stem cap, so as you say, you could just remove them and replace
with the plastic caps until the tire work is complete.

BTW, the Amazon reviews were very positive. One thing I did notice
is that someone said the monitor placement was critical in getting a
good, solid signal from all the sensors.



I've had several cars with the factory tire pressure monitoring systems.

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.


Don't know how the system you are looking at for your 5'ver works but
the factory systems look for a difference in pressure in one compared to
the others. As Greg said it seems to be about 4 psi or so. In other
words, if *all* the tire pressures go up or down uniformly, no warning
is given. Some however, like the one in the Altima I am currently
driving allows you to read actual pressures in each tire on the
dashboard display. This is the first car I've had that does that.
The others simply displayed a warning if one of the tires lost pressure
and you had to check each one manually to find the culprit.



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Our toyotas show individual tire pressures. Accurate, too...checked it a
couple of times with a good tire pressure gauge.

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On 5/25/2017 6:32 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 19:51:38 -0400, Alex wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2017 12:40 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 12:29:43 PM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:19:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:35:03 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Anyone use one of these systems? I'm thinking of putting this on
the RV. Seen too many horrific
results of blowouts on the highway.

http://eezrvproduct.com/products/tir...systems-tpms-4


We have them on the Lincoln. Expect to replace some sensors whenever
they break down a tire because the tire guys usually trash them.

I suppose I could always take off the sensors before any tire work
is done.

I think Greg is talking about the factory internal sensors. Both my
car and my wife's has those, and we've had new tires mounted and
haven't lost one yet. I'm sure it does happen though.

The system you're looking at has external sensors which replace the
valve stem cap, so as you say, you could just remove them and replace
with the plastic caps until the tire work is complete.

BTW, the Amazon reviews were very positive. One thing I did notice
is that someone said the monitor placement was critical in getting a
good, solid signal from all the sensors.



I've had several cars with the factory tire pressure monitoring systems.

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition
on (but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep
when the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.



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Does it adjust for temperature? That would be great if the tire was
cold before you took off for a drive.

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing temp monitoring system.



Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.

On 5/25/2017 6:52 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2017 6:25 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/24/2017 12:40 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 12:29:43 PM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:19:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:35:03 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Anyone use one of these systems? I'm thinking of putting this on
the RV. Seen too many horrific
results of blowouts on the highway.

http://eezrvproduct.com/products/tir...systems-tpms-4

We have them on the Lincoln. Expect to replace some sensors whenever
they break down a tire because the tire guys usually trash them.

I suppose I could always take off the sensors before any tire work is done.

I think Greg is talking about the factory internal sensors. Both my
car and my wife's has those, and we've had new tires mounted and
haven't lost one yet. I'm sure it does happen though.

The system you're looking at has external sensors which replace the
valve stem cap, so as you say, you could just remove them and replace
with the plastic caps until the tire work is complete.

BTW, the Amazon reviews were very positive. One thing I did notice
is that someone said the monitor placement was critical in getting a
good, solid signal from all the sensors.



I've had several cars with the factory tire pressure monitoring systems.

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.


Don't know how the system you are looking at for your 5'ver works but
the factory systems look for a difference in pressure in one compared to
the others. As Greg said it seems to be about 4 psi or so. In other
words, if *all* the tire pressures go up or down uniformly, no warning
is given. Some however, like the one in the Altima I am currently
driving allows you to read actual pressures in each tire on the
dashboard display. This is the first car I've had that does that.
The others simply displayed a warning if one of the tires lost pressure
and you had to check each one manually to find the culprit.



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Our toyotas show individual tire pressures. Accurate, too...checked it a
couple of times with a good tire pressure gauge.


Maybe Greg will eventually become a believer that *some* technological
advances actually work pretty well. :-)

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2017 6:32 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 19:51:38 -0400, Alex wrote:

Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/24/2017 12:40 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 12:29:43 PM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:19:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:35:03 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Anyone use one of these systems? I'm thinking of putting this on
the RV. Seen too many horrific
results of blowouts on the highway.

http://eezrvproduct.com/products/tir...systems-tpms-4


We have them on the Lincoln. Expect to replace some sensors whenever
they break down a tire because the tire guys usually trash them.

I suppose I could always take off the sensors before any tire work
is done.

I think Greg is talking about the factory internal sensors. Both my
car and my wife's has those, and we've had new tires mounted and
haven't lost one yet. I'm sure it does happen though.

The system you're looking at has external sensors which replace the
valve stem cap, so as you say, you could just remove them and replace
with the plastic caps until the tire work is complete.

BTW, the Amazon reviews were very positive. One thing I did notice
is that someone said the monitor placement was critical in getting a
good, solid signal from all the sensors.



I've had several cars with the factory tire pressure monitoring systems.

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition
on (but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep
when the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.



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Does it adjust for temperature? That would be great if the tire was
cold before you took off for a drive.

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing temp monitoring system.



Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


Heard a lot of bad about Pace Arrow. The tires for my 5'er are readily available and are less than
$150 each, replaced. I had a slow leak during this last trip. Called the Good Sam road assistance
folks from the campground, and they had a guy out there within the hour. Turned out to be a nail
close to the sidewall. The nail was angled towards the center of the tread, so the sidewall wasn't
damaged and the repair was good. The guy removed the tire repaired it and replaced it. Good Sam
covered everything but the actual repair, which cost me $15. Couldn't bitch too much about that.
Tire got me home and still has 80-85 lbs of air, so the patch held.

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:49:06 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2017 6:25 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 5/24/2017 12:40 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Wednesday, May 24, 2017 at 12:29:43 PM UTC-4, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Wed, 24 May 2017 12:19:22 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 10:35:03 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Anyone use one of these systems? I'm thinking of putting this on the RV. Seen too many horrific
results of blowouts on the highway.

http://eezrvproduct.com/products/tir...systems-tpms-4

We have them on the Lincoln. Expect to replace some sensors whenever
they break down a tire because the tire guys usually trash them.

I suppose I could always take off the sensors before any tire work is done.

I think Greg is talking about the factory internal sensors. Both my car and my wife's has those, and we've had new tires mounted and haven't lost one yet. I'm sure it does happen though.

The system you're looking at has external sensors which replace the valve stem cap, so as you say, you could just remove them and replace with the plastic caps until the tire work is complete.

BTW, the Amazon reviews were very positive. One thing I did notice is that someone said the monitor placement was critical in getting a good, solid signal from all the sensors.



I've had several cars with the factory tire pressure monitoring systems.

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.


Don't know how the system you are looking at for your 5'ver works but
the factory systems look for a difference in pressure in one compared to
the others. As Greg said it seems to be about 4 psi or so. In other
words, if *all* the tire pressures go up or down uniformly, no warning
is given. Some however, like the one in the Altima I am currently
driving allows you to read actual pressures in each tire on the
dashboard display. This is the first car I've had that does that.
The others simply displayed a warning if one of the tires lost pressure
and you had to check each one manually to find the culprit.


The pressure difference is what is monitored on the truck. If one gets low compared to the opposite
side, the warning sounds.

On the trailer, the system is 'wheel independant'. Each wheel is self-sensed and sends a signal to
the monitor. The link above shows the system pretty well. It would operate more like the Altima.

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:25:42 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.

That is what the sensor is meant to do. I still want to use a real
gauge to inflate them.

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.

On 5/25/2017 11:29 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:25:42 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 17:16:05 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 24 May 2017 13:34:15 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

The Altima I drive now has a cool feature. If you leave the ignition on
(but engine off) when adding air to a tire, the car horn will beep when
the tire is at 32 psi. Don't need a tire gauge.


I am not convinced these things are that accurate.

It's not spot on accuracy I worry about. It's losing 10-20 lbs rapidly, or the temperature
increasing rapidly that worries me. I like the idea of a warning alarm when either occurs.

That is what the sensor is meant to do. I still want to use a real
gauge to inflate them.


I checked the readings given by my car display with a dial type gauge
that I have used for years. It's a fairly expensive one that holds the
reading until you push a button on the side to release the pressure
within the gauge.

Anyway, dead nuts with the Nissan system readings as near as I can tell.
The Nissan display reads in 10ths of a psi. Can't resolve it that well
with the expensive dial gauge.



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On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.