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On 5/25/2017 4:03 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 13:21:05 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 5/25/2017 1:06 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:05:49 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
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Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.

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Intereresting. I've always thought they looked pretty good when I've
seen them on the road. Who would you recommend instead?

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These Allegros get very high marks. Also expensive.

http://www.tiffinmotorhomes.com/allegro

The folks we go with frequently have a Winnebago Journey:

https://winnebagoind.com/products/cl...urney/overview

They've had some problems, but are overall pretty happy with the rig. Both of those are diesel
pushers, which adds to the cost and the quality of the coach.

Me, I prefer a 5th wheel and a pickup. Motorhomes, like Luddite said, can become a big pain in the
butt, and you still need something to get around in once you're at the campsite. I have yet to see
an advantage to a motorhome which justifies all the extra costs. Yeah, wife can cook or take a nap
on the go.



Not legally, she can't. You can get away with it unless there's an
accident.



Oh, I didn't know that. You're talking about cooking or sleeping in the back? I suppose the seat
belt laws would prevent either. Good point. Hadn't thought about it in that light. That leaves ease
of backing into a campsite about the only advantage. But, if you've got a toad you've got to drop
that first anyway. Oh well.


My daughter and son-in-law recently rented a class C to travel to South
Carolina and Mrs.E. went with them. I drove my son-in-law over to pick
it up and jokingly mentioned to him that he should just put Mrs.E. in
one of the beds for the trip because she falls asleep whenever she
travels anyway. The manager of the RV rental place told us it was
illegal to be in a bed or even walking around while the RV was in
motion. I am sure people do it ... we did when we had the class A and
the class C RV's but it's not advised or legal.

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On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:56:55 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/25/17 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
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On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400,
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On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
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Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.

We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.



My wife drove to Florida and back twice this year and says I-95 in NC is
now the worst on the trip, and "second-worst" is I-95 in SC. The problem
with Virginia is the horrendous traffic between Fairfax County and south
of Richmond. That's why we cut over to Waldorf and take 301 south to a
bit past Ft. AP Hill.


From where you live, not taking 301 would be an act of stupidity.
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On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:56:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
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On 5/25/17 3:47 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.

We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.


We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.



My wife drove to Florida and back twice this year and says I-95 in NC is
now the worst on the trip, and "second-worst" is I-95 in SC. The problem
with Virginia is the horrendous traffic between Fairfax County and south
of Richmond. That's why we cut over to Waldorf and take 301 south to a
bit past Ft. AP Hill.


I always time my trip so the Carolinas are in the middle of the night.
I like the sun to come up somewhere around Brunswick Ga.
You can haul ass that way, particularly if you have a CB.
When I was doing that a lot, I knew quite a few of those truckers and
I met some face to face. I rescued a guy on 270 one night and got a
lot of street cred from that.
I agree about that Richmond to Springfield part of 95.
One night I was on an call going from Rockville to just south of
Ashland and got hooked up with my truckers. I made that 90 mile trip
in about an hour.
I do the 301 thing too but I am going to Ridge these days so it is
pretty much the first right turn off the PR bridge.
When I was in Clinton I went that way tho.


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On Thu, 25 May 2017 17:18:05 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:56:55 -0400, Keyser Soze
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On 5/25/17 3:47 PM,
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On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:59:07 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:52:42 -0400,
wrote:

On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:55:10 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Heh. One of the reasons I got out of RV'ing. Too many things to worry
about. I've grown to really like simplicity.

First blow out I had was on the christening voyage to Florida in a brand
new Pace Arrow Class A motorhome. Inner tire on rear blew.
Spent the night in a truck repair parking lot while the replacement was
ordered and delivered.

Pace Arrow was a piece of crap, BTW.


If you go often and go on short trips like John, the RV thing may be
worthwhile but for the once or twice a year guy, a first class plane
ticket, a rental car and a real nice hotel is a lot cheaper.

We leave on 8 June for the 'Bean Blossom Bluegrass Festival' in Bean Blossom, IN. That's about 650
miles, which, I suppose, is pretty short.

We are going to North Carolina next week but that is still farther
than I want to drive. I am not sure how far it is but I am guessing
about 700-750.
It is a non stop flight from RSW to CLT so we are flying. Last time we
were on our way to DC with $600 worth of illegal fireworks so we drove
but we flew home.



My wife drove to Florida and back twice this year and says I-95 in NC is
now the worst on the trip, and "second-worst" is I-95 in SC. The problem
with Virginia is the horrendous traffic between Fairfax County and south
of Richmond. That's why we cut over to Waldorf and take 301 south to a
bit past Ft. AP Hill.


I always time my trip so the Carolinas are in the middle of the night.
I like the sun to come up somewhere around Brunswick Ga.
You can haul ass that way, particularly if you have a CB.
When I was doing that a lot, I knew quite a few of those truckers and
I met some face to face. I rescued a guy on 270 one night and got a
lot of street cred from that.
I agree about that Richmond to Springfield part of 95.
One night I was on an call going from Rockville to just south of
Ashland and got hooked up with my truckers. I made that 90 mile trip
in about an hour.
I do the 301 thing too but I am going to Ridge these days so it is
pretty much the first right turn off the PR bridge.
When I was in Clinton I went that way tho.


I haven't had a CB since the early 80's. Used it a hell of a lot travelling across country and while
advising Reserve and National Guard units out west. Haven't used one at all since then. Have you
used one recently? I've heard that most of the truckers don't even use them anymore. Too much static
or whatever. I've thought about getting one, but haven't talked to anyone recently about them.
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On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:57:50 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
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On Thu, 25 May 2017 15:48:54 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:


Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while when
we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a look at
the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


Actually, it's a bit more than a motel room - two queen beds, refrigerator, stove, ... all the
comforts!


We are renting this place. I bet your RV doesn't have a hot tub and an
air hockey table ;-)

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On 5/25/17 4:07 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/25/2017 3:48 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/25/17 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 May 2017 12:57:19 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
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On Thu, 25 May 2017 11:43:53 -0400,
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On Thu, 25 May 2017 06:32:10 -0400, Poco Deplorevole
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Driving north on a hot, sunny afternoon on I-81 will raise the
tire temp a bunch. I wonder how the
TPMS compensates, if at all. I suppose if both driver-side tires
are at the same (higher) temp then
the fear would be reduced. I wish they also made a wheel bearing
temp monitoring system.

Do you have an IR gun? It is a handy thing for looking at all of that
stuff. They are getting pretty cheap but I would get one from the
middle of the pack, not the cheapest one you find.

Won't need one with the TPMS.

I was thinking more about the bearings you seemed to be worried about.
You can reach around and shoot the base of the spindle. They use those
guns on Pike's Peak to check brake rotor heats and if you are too hot,
they give you a time out.





Gosh, I just keep an eye on the temp gauge and TPMS once in a while
when we travel, and when we gas up, I check the engine oil and take a
look at the tires. Glad I am not towing a motel room.


So is everyone else using the same highway.




I've been pulling trailers behind trucks since I was 12, and legally
since I was 16. Never had an accident.

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