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On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing" religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a mild example. There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time, people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It was the only light on at that time. I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so much in DC. It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7. |
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On 5/4/17 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/4/2017 12:01 PM, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing" religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a mild example. There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time, people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It was the only light on at that time. I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so much in DC. It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7. Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had everything to do with religious pressures. Not pressure. Simply historical. Legislative action is required to repeal them, something that takes time as we well know. When Blue Laws in MA were finally discarded nobody complained, including religious organizations. Good grief. |
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On Thu, 4 May 2017 12:01:53 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote: On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote: On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing" religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a mild example. There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time, people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It was the only light on at that time. I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so much in DC. It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7. Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had everything to do with religious pressures. In the 30s when most of the 20th century blue laws were written there was a blurry line between religion, government, labor and society in general. The fact remains, liquor stores stayed open later than grocery stores and pharmacies. I remember the new Giant food bragging about being "open all day on saturday" in the early 50s. Most mom and pops were only 9-5 monday-friday and maybe till noon on saturday. Nothing was open on sunday. The excuse mostly heard involved overtime. |
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