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Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.


There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.
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On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.


There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.



Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific
history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either
long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But
there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could
stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these
religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had
everything to do with religious pressures.


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On 5/4/2017 12:01 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.


There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.



Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific
history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either
long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But
there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could
stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these
religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had
everything to do with religious pressures.



Not pressure. Simply historical. Legislative action is required to
repeal them, something that takes time as we well know. When Blue Laws
in MA were finally discarded nobody complained, including religious
organizations.


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On 5/4/17 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/4/2017 12:01 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue
laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.

There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.



Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific
history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either
long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But
there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could
stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these
religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had
everything to do with religious pressures.



Not pressure. Simply historical. Legislative action is required to
repeal them, something that takes time as we well know. When Blue Laws
in MA were finally discarded nobody complained, including religious
organizations.




Good grief.
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On Thu, 4 May 2017 12:01:53 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:



Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.


There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.



Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific
history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either
long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But
there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could
stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these
religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had
everything to do with religious pressures.


In the 30s when most of the 20th century blue laws were written there
was a blurry line between religion, government, labor and society in
general. The fact remains, liquor stores stayed open later than
grocery stores and pharmacies. I remember the new Giant food bragging
about being "open all day on saturday" in the early 50s.
Most mom and pops were only 9-5 monday-friday and maybe till noon on
saturday. Nothing was open on sunday. The excuse mostly heard involved
overtime.


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