On Wed, 3 May 2017 15:27:19 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

justan wrote:
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On 5/3/17 11:35 AM, justan wrote:
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On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/3/2017 10:43 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/3/17 9:34 AM, justan wrote:
Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 16:56:16 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/2/17 4:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 14:13:30 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/2/17 2:06 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 09:38:30 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/2/17 7:15 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
...and think you have *real* problems, just remember: Somewhere
in this world there is a *Mrs.*
Krause!

.

Just think, JohnnyMop, if you were married to someone in the
mental
health field, she'd probably already have you committed for your
seething hatred of blacks, Latinos, gays, and others who offend
your
fake christianity.

Weak.


It doesn't matter what you think about it.

Then why waste your time writing it, weak though it is?


You're not in charge here, nor are you the official arbiter.

Krause, with all your knowledge you should be able to recognize the
difference between a question
and an order. One ends with '?' and the other ends with '.'.

There, now you can answer the question.


And maybe he can learn to see the offering of religious
information as a friendly gesture as opposed to his radical
thinking that they are jamming it down his throat.


There is nothing wrong with offering religious information to those who
seek it. If people want to believe that sort of nonsense, that's their
business. If, however, you are forcing your religious beliefs onto the
public, then you should be arrested.



I suppose that concept could be applied to commercials and
advertisements for products and services on TV, radio and in print.
I don't seek them. I don't ask for them. I think most of them are
nonsense. But they are still forced upon me. I just ignore the vast
majority of them and listen only if I feel like it.



Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.


Blue laws are archaic laws, not religious beliefs. Learn to know
the difference, if you are smart enough.


You are as ignorant of history as your boy, Trump. Blue laws came about
as a result of religious beliefs.

Perhaps you don't understand the difference between a law and a
belief. You might be able to influence a change in the law but by
golly, an asshole like you isn't going to change anyone's belief
system. Good example of that is how successful were you at
converting Karen's protestant beliefs into nothingism? Yup, words
have meaning. Get it?

Tou aren't worth the bit of effort needed to explain this to you.

The fact that you misread his post needs no further explanation.

On 5/3/2017 3:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/3/17 11:35 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/3/2017 10:43 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/3/17 9:34 AM, justan wrote:
Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 16:56:16 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/2/17 4:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 14:13:30 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/2/17 2:06 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 09:38:30 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/2/17 7:15 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
...and think you have *real* problems, just remember: Somewhere
in this world there is a *Mrs.*
Krause!

.

Just think, JohnnyMop, if you were married to someone in the
mental
health field, she'd probably already have you committed for your
seething hatred of blacks, Latinos, gays, and others who offend
your
fake christianity.

Weak.


It doesn't matter what you think about it.

Then why waste your time writing it, weak though it is?


You're not in charge here, nor are you the official arbiter.

Krause, with all your knowledge you should be able to recognize the
difference between a question
and an order. One ends with '?' and the other ends with '.'.

There, now you can answer the question.


And maybe he can learn to see the offering of religious
information as a friendly gesture as opposed to his radical
thinking that they are jamming it down his throat.


There is nothing wrong with offering religious information to those who
seek it. If people want to believe that sort of nonsense, that's their
business. If, however, you are forcing your religious beliefs onto the
public, then you should be arrested.



I suppose that concept could be applied to commercials and
advertisements for products and services on TV, radio and in print.
I don't seek them. I don't ask for them. I think most of them are
nonsense. But they are still forced upon me. I just ignore the vast
majority of them and listen only if I feel like it.



Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.


Blue laws are archaic laws, not religious beliefs. Learn to know
the difference, if you are smart enough.


You are as ignorant of history as your boy, Trump. Blue laws came about
as a result of religious beliefs.

Perhaps you don't understand the difference between a law
and a
belief. You might be able to influence a change in the law but by
golly, an asshole like you isn't going to change anyone's belief
system. Good example of that is how successful were you at
converting Karen's protestant beliefs into nothingism? Yup, words
have meaning. Get it?

Tou aren't worth the bit of effort needed to explain this to you.



Blue laws came about as a result of religious beliefs, true, but today
they are pretty much archaic which is also true. Even in those few
states that technically still have them on the books, they aren't taken
seriously or even enforced in some cases.

Times change Harry. Religious influences change. You seem to be the
only one here still hung up on it. Good thing you didn't exist in 1760.

On 5/3/17 5:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/3/2017 3:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/3/17 11:35 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/3/2017 10:43 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/3/17 9:34 AM, justan wrote:
Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 16:56:16 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/2/17 4:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 14:13:30 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/2/17 2:06 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 09:38:30 -0400, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 5/2/17 7:15 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
...and think you have *real* problems, just remember:
Somewhere
in this world there is a *Mrs.*
Krause!

.

Just think, JohnnyMop, if you were married to someone in the
mental
health field, she'd probably already have you committed
for your
seething hatred of blacks, Latinos, gays, and others who
offend
your
fake christianity.

Weak.


It doesn't matter what you think about it.

Then why waste your time writing it, weak though it is?


You're not in charge here, nor are you the official arbiter.

Krause, with all your knowledge you should be able to
recognize the
difference between a question
and an order. One ends with '?' and the other ends with '.'.

There, now you can answer the question.


And maybe he can learn to see the offering of religious
information as a friendly gesture as opposed to his radical
thinking that they are jamming it down his throat.


There is nothing wrong with offering religious information to
those who
seek it. If people want to believe that sort of nonsense, that's
their
business. If, however, you are forcing your religious beliefs
onto the
public, then you should be arrested.



I suppose that concept could be applied to commercials and
advertisements for products and services on TV, radio and in print.
I don't seek them. I don't ask for them. I think most of them are
nonsense. But they are still forced upon me. I just ignore the
vast
majority of them and listen only if I feel like it.



Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced
blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.


Blue laws are archaic laws, not religious beliefs. Learn to know
the difference, if you are smart enough.


You are as ignorant of history as your boy, Trump. Blue laws came about
as a result of religious beliefs.

Perhaps you don't understand the difference between a law
and a
belief. You might be able to influence a change in the law but by
golly, an asshole like you isn't going to change anyone's belief
system. Good example of that is how successful were you at
converting Karen's protestant beliefs into nothingism? Yup, words
have meaning. Get it?

Tou aren't worth the bit of effort needed to explain this to you.



Blue laws came about as a result of religious beliefs, true, but today
they are pretty much archaic which is also true. Even in those few
states that technically still have them on the books, they aren't taken
seriously or even enforced in some cases.

Times change Harry. Religious influences change. You seem to be the
only one here still hung up on it. Good thing you didn't exist in 1760.





Indeed, they are pretty much archaic, but they are still in effect and
even enforced in some states. I brought up blue laws as an example of
religion controlling society because they seemed easy enough for FlaJim
to understand. Today's religious zealots also control or partially
control society in the areas, among others, of access to abortion,
family planning, stem cell research, gay rights, climate change, the
teaching of evolution, history, sex education programs, and many more.

On Wed, 3 May 2017 18:34:57 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 5:01 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/3/2017 3:27 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/3/17 11:35 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/3/2017 10:43 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/3/17 9:34 AM, justan wrote:
Poco Deplorevole Wrote in message:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 16:56:16 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/2/17 4:41 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 14:13:30 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 5/2/17 2:06 PM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
On Tue, 2 May 2017 09:38:30 -0400, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 5/2/17 7:15 AM, Poco Deplorevole wrote:
...and think you have *real* problems, just remember:
Somewhere
in this world there is a *Mrs.*
Krause!

.

Just think, JohnnyMop, if you were married to someone in the
mental
health field, she'd probably already have you committed
for your
seething hatred of blacks, Latinos, gays, and others who
offend
your
fake christianity.

Weak.


It doesn't matter what you think about it.

Then why waste your time writing it, weak though it is?


You're not in charge here, nor are you the official arbiter.

Krause, with all your knowledge you should be able to
recognize the
difference between a question
and an order. One ends with '?' and the other ends with '.'.

There, now you can answer the question.


And maybe he can learn to see the offering of religious
information as a friendly gesture as opposed to his radical
thinking that they are jamming it down his throat.


There is nothing wrong with offering religious information to
those who
seek it. If people want to believe that sort of nonsense, that's
their
business. If, however, you are forcing your religious beliefs
onto the
public, then you should be arrested.



I suppose that concept could be applied to commercials and
advertisements for products and services on TV, radio and in print.
I don't seek them. I don't ask for them. I think most of them are
nonsense. But they are still forced upon me. I just ignore the
vast
majority of them and listen only if I feel like it.



Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced
blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.


Blue laws are archaic laws, not religious beliefs. Learn to know
the difference, if you are smart enough.


You are as ignorant of history as your boy, Trump. Blue laws came about
as a result of religious beliefs.

Perhaps you don't understand the difference between a law
and a
belief. You might be able to influence a change in the law but by
golly, an asshole like you isn't going to change anyone's belief
system. Good example of that is how successful were you at
converting Karen's protestant beliefs into nothingism? Yup, words
have meaning. Get it?

Tou aren't worth the bit of effort needed to explain this to you.



Blue laws came about as a result of religious beliefs, true, but today
they are pretty much archaic which is also true. Even in those few
states that technically still have them on the books, they aren't taken
seriously or even enforced in some cases.

Times change Harry. Religious influences change. You seem to be the
only one here still hung up on it. Good thing you didn't exist in 1760.





Indeed, they are pretty much archaic, but they are still in effect and
even enforced in some states. I brought up blue laws as an example of
religion controlling society because they seemed easy enough for FlaJim
to understand. Today's religious zealots also control or partially
control society in the areas, among others, of access to abortion,
family planning, stem cell research, gay rights, climate change, the
teaching of evolution, history, sex education programs, and many more.

Kinda like you and your Trump frustration, eh Krause?

On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.

There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.

On Wed, 3 May 2017 14:35:51 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

You are as ignorant of history as your boy, Trump. Blue laws came about
as a result of religious beliefs.

Civilization as we know it came about as a result of religious
beliefs, what's your point?
20th century blue laws came about as a compromise on the repeal of the
18th amendment as did the drug laws. You only have to look at the
timing to see that.

On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.

There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.



Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific
history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either
long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But
there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could
stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these
religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had
everything to do with religious pressures.

On 5/4/2017 12:01 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.

There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.



Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific
history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either
long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But
there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could
stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these
religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had
everything to do with religious pressures.



Not pressure. Simply historical. Legislative action is required to
repeal them, something that takes time as we well know. When Blue Laws
in MA were finally discarded nobody complained, including religious
organizations.

On 5/4/17 12:40 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/4/2017 12:01 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue
laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.

There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.



Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific
history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either
long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But
there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could
stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these
religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had
everything to do with religious pressures.



Not pressure. Simply historical. Legislative action is required to
repeal them, something that takes time as we well know. When Blue Laws
in MA were finally discarded nobody complained, including religious
organizations.




Good grief.

On Thu, 4 May 2017 12:01:53 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/4/17 11:48 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 3 May 2017 11:05:26 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 5/3/17 10:57 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Perhaps you should check out the concept and details of "forcing"
religious beliefs onto the public. If you are selling cars through
advertising, it is easy enough to ignore the advertising, or turn the
page, or change the channel. If you have a shop and you want to stay
open on a Sunday and there are religiously passed and enforced blue laws
extant (and there are and were, though not many these days), those
religious beliefs are being forced on you. Oh, I deliberately chose a
mild example.

There was more than just blue laws in effect that closed shops on
sunday and it was more than just liquor stores. In a more gentle time,
people actually thought we should rest on the weekends and in the
evenings. That was brought to us by the unions. I remember when it was
shocking that the (new to us) 7-11 actually stayed open until 11. It
was the only light on at that time.
I understand that in NYC and LA they had late night stores but not so
much in DC.
It was in the GoGo 70s and 80s that things became 24/7.



Connecticut, the state in which I grew up, had a long and horrific
history with religiously based "blue laws," most of which were either
long gone, forgotten or otherwise made inconsequential by my time. But
there were some vestiges, one of which controlled which businesses could
stay open and which had to be closed on Sundays. Hopefully, these
religious laws are totally gone in Connecticut by now. These laws had
everything to do with religious pressures.


In the 30s when most of the 20th century blue laws were written there
was a blurry line between religion, government, labor and society in
general. The fact remains, liquor stores stayed open later than
grocery stores and pharmacies. I remember the new Giant food bragging
about being "open all day on saturday" in the early 50s.
Most mom and pops were only 9-5 monday-friday and maybe till noon on
saturday. Nothing was open on sunday. The excuse mostly heard involved
overtime.