On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 18:54:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 4/6/2017 6:36 PM, justan wrote:

What's the point in shooting 38s in a 357?

Cheaper. Lots cheaper.

Especially if you reload.

I was shooting wadcutters for 22rf kind of money back when .22 was
cheap.

On 4/6/17 8:48 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 4/6/2017 6:36 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/6/17 5:31 PM, Tim wrote:
4:03 PMPoco Deplorevole
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Well John I'm glad it's your money and not mine. I did a really brief search and saw this for just $50.00 more . Btw, I haven't even started looking yet. Lol!

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr22Pi...eets/3620.html

Yeah, I saw that too, but didn't like it as much as I like the Kimber with the kit. Switching
between .45 and .22 with the Kimber is about a two-minute job, so it's not a big deal. I got the
stainless conversion kit, so the Kimber looks pretty good with it. And, it's easy to tell what it's
firing from a few feet away!
....

Ok well you're the only one you need to satisfy on the matter so that's good!

I just can't see that kind of mo way for a conversion kit, though... But obviously that's me..


I simply "don't get" those conversion kits...the light .22LR round
doesn't feel the same going off in a pistol designed for .45 ACP, or
even 9mm. The recoil is different, the flip is different, the point of
impact is different. What's the point? When I got my .357 mag pistol and
rifle, I bought a box of .38 Specials, because the guns will fire those,
too...but they feel a lot different in the pistol than the hotter
rounds. The rifle, well, even .357 Mag out of my lever gun feels pretty
soft.




What's the point in shooting 38s in a 357?

Cheaper. Lots cheaper.





I was hoping Krowsie would answer.


When I last bought a box of 50 .38 special ball ammo rounds, they were
about 20 cents a round at the same time similar .357 MAG rounds were
nine or 10 cents more a round. That would be about $5.00 a box. I had
and still have a lot of .357 MAG ammo on hand, so I haven't priced it
lately...in the last couple of years.

7:30 PMMr. Luddite
On 4/6/2017 7:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 5:54:50 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/6/2017 6:36 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -
I used to alternate .38 and .357 mag rounds in the S&W I had. I've
posted this YouTube link before and you can clearly see the difference
in the two rounds, both in recoil and in sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF00rLj8AEY
.......

Very good Richard. I also looked at it like this. If I can't do it with a 38, I'm sure not going to do it with a 357. Impressive target BTW.

On 4/6/2017 9:02 PM, Tim wrote:

7:30 PMMr. Luddite
On 4/6/2017 7:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 5:54:50 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/6/2017 6:36 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -
I used to alternate .38 and .357 mag rounds in the S&W I had. I've
posted this YouTube link before and you can clearly see the difference
in the two rounds, both in recoil and in sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF00rLj8AEY
......



Very good Richard. I also looked at it like this. If I can't do it with a 38, I'm sure not going to do it with a 357. Impressive target BTW.


I have a confession. I've posted this video a few times to see if
anyone noticed something. I added the closeup of a target to the video
when I made it as a joke on a friend of mine. It obviously isn't the
target I was shooting at. I am not that good of a shooter at that
distance, especially with a .357 Magnum that I had just purchased.

I hit the target but the grouping wasn't close to what it looked like in
the video. :-)

On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 20:58:15 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:



When I last bought a box of 50 .38 special ball ammo rounds, they were
about 20 cents a round at the same time similar .357 MAG rounds were
nine or 10 cents more a round. That would be about $5.00 a box. I had
and still have a lot of .357 MAG ammo on hand, so I haven't priced it
lately...in the last couple of years.

The biggest difference will be the bullets. An extra couple grains of
powder in insignificant. You can shoot regular swaged lead in a .38
but you need jacketed bullets in a .357.

On 4/6/17 9:57 PM, justan wrote:
justan Wrote in message:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/6/17 8:48 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 4/6/2017 6:36 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/6/17 5:31 PM, Tim wrote:
4:03 PMPoco Deplorevole
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Well John I'm glad it's your money and not mine. I did a really brief search and saw this for just $50.00 more . Btw, I haven't even started looking yet. Lol!

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr22Pi...eets/3620.html

Yeah, I saw that too, but didn't like it as much as I like the Kimber with the kit. Switching
between .45 and .22 with the Kimber is about a two-minute job, so it's not a big deal. I got the
stainless conversion kit, so the Kimber looks pretty good with it. And, it's easy to tell what it's
firing from a few feet away!
....

Ok well you're the only one you need to satisfy on the matter so that's good!

I just can't see that kind of mo way for a conversion kit, though... But obviously that's me..


I simply "don't get" those conversion kits...the light .22LR round
doesn't feel the same going off in a pistol designed for .45 ACP, or
even 9mm. The recoil is different, the flip is different, the point of
impact is different. What's the point? When I got my .357 mag pistol and
rifle, I bought a box of .38 Specials, because the guns will fire those,
too...but they feel a lot different in the pistol than the hotter
rounds. The rifle, well, even .357 Mag out of my lever gun feels pretty
soft.




What's the point in shooting 38s in a 357?

Cheaper. Lots cheaper.





I was hoping Krowsie would answer.


When I last bought a box of 50 .38 special ball ammo rounds, they were
about 20 cents a round at the same time similar .357 MAG rounds were
nine or 10 cents more a round. That would be about $5.00 a box. I had
and still have a lot of .357 MAG ammo on hand, so I haven't priced it
lately...in the last couple of years.


Obviously you missed the point
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Practicing with lighter cheaper ammo. Now you get it?


D'oh. If you have a .45ACP pistol and you want to become adept at
shooting it and hitting your targets with the sort of ammo for which it
was designed and intended, using .22LR ammo in it isn't going to do
that. If you want to become adept at manipulating the trigger, snapcaps
will help. Mind you, I'm not knocking the idea of having fun with a
pistol, and spending a lot less money doing it, but as a training
methodology, not so much.

On 4/7/17 9:01 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/6/17 9:57 PM, justan wrote:
justan Wrote in message:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/6/17 8:48 PM, justan wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" Wrote in message:
On 4/6/2017 6:36 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/6/17 5:31 PM, Tim wrote:
4:03 PMPoco Deplorevole
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Well John I'm glad it's your money and not mine. I did a really brief search and saw this for just $50.00 more . Btw, I haven't even started looking yet. Lol!

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr22Pi...eets/3620.html

Yeah, I saw that too, but didn't like it as much as I like the Kimber with the kit. Switching
between .45 and .22 with the Kimber is about a two-minute job, so it's not a big deal. I got the
stainless conversion kit, so the Kimber looks pretty good with it. And, it's easy to tell what it's
firing from a few feet away!
....

Ok well you're the only one you need to satisfy on the matter so that's good!

I just can't see that kind of mo way for a conversion kit, though... But obviously that's me..


I simply "don't get" those conversion kits...the light .22LR round
doesn't feel the same going off in a pistol designed for .45 ACP, or
even 9mm. The recoil is different, the flip is different, the point of
impact is different. What's the point? When I got my .357 mag pistol and
rifle, I bought a box of .38 Specials, because the guns will fire those,
too...but they feel a lot different in the pistol than the hotter
rounds. The rifle, well, even .357 Mag out of my lever gun feels pretty
soft.




What's the point in shooting 38s in a 357?

Cheaper. Lots cheaper.





I was hoping Krowsie would answer.


When I last bought a box of 50 .38 special ball ammo rounds, they were
about 20 cents a round at the same time similar .357 MAG rounds were
nine or 10 cents more a round. That would be about $5.00 a box. I had
and still have a lot of .357 MAG ammo on hand, so I haven't priced it
lately...in the last couple of years.


Obviously you missed the point
--
x


----Android NewsGroup Reader----
http://usenet.sinaapp.com/


Practicing with lighter cheaper ammo. Now you get it?


D'oh. If you have a .45ACP pistol and you want to become adept at
shooting it and hitting your targets with the sort of ammo for which it
was designed and intended, using .22LR ammo in it isn't going to do
that. If you want to become adept at manipulating the trigger, snapcaps
will help. Mind you, I'm not knocking the idea of having fun with a
pistol, and spending a lot less money doing it, but as a training
methodology, not so much.


You have your fun your way. Let others decide how they
want to
spend their time and money.
BTW You never did thank me for steering you toward the 686-6. I
still don't have one but remains on my wish list. Now I want a
drone too. I wish you guys would stop hypeing tour
toys.


D'uh. You bear no responsibility for my buying a S&W 686 with a 4"
barrel. I already had a fine Ruger GP 100, but I wanted a revolver in
that caliber with a 4" barrel. My Ruger had a 6" barrel. So I found a
good buyer for the Ruger and bought the Smith. Both brands make
top-quality revolvers.

On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 18:25:18 -0400, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 4/6/17 5:31 PM, Tim wrote:
4:03 PMPoco Deplorevole
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Well John I'm glad it's your money and not mine. I did a really brief search and saw this for just $50.00 more . Btw, I haven't even started looking yet. Lol!

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr22Pi...eets/3620.html

Yeah, I saw that too, but didn't like it as much as I like the Kimber with the kit. Switching
between .45 and .22 with the Kimber is about a two-minute job, so it's not a big deal. I got the
stainless conversion kit, so the Kimber looks pretty good with it. And, it's easy to tell what it's
firing from a few feet away!
....

Ok well you're the only one you need to satisfy on the matter so that's good!

I just can't see that kind of mo way for a conversion kit, though... But obviously that's me..


I simply "don't get" those conversion kits...the light .22LR round
doesn't feel the same going off in a pistol designed for .45 ACP, or
even 9mm. The recoil is different, the flip is different, the point of
impact is different. What's the point? When I got my .357 mag pistol and
rifle, I bought a box of .38 Specials, because the guns will fire those,
too...but they feel a lot different in the pistol than the hotter
rounds. The rifle, well, even .357 Mag out of my lever gun feels pretty
soft.

Luckily, for me, you and I don't have much in common.

On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 18:54:37 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/6/2017 6:36 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 4/6/17 5:31 PM, Tim wrote:
4:03 PMPoco Deplorevole
On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 13:04:59 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote:

Well John I'm glad it's your money and not mine. I did a really brief search and saw this for just $50.00 more . Btw, I haven't even started looking yet. Lol!

http://www.ruger.com/products/sr22Pi...eets/3620.html

Yeah, I saw that too, but didn't like it as much as I like the Kimber with the kit. Switching
between .45 and .22 with the Kimber is about a two-minute job, so it's not a big deal. I got the
stainless conversion kit, so the Kimber looks pretty good with it. And, it's easy to tell what it's
firing from a few feet away!
....

Ok well you're the only one you need to satisfy on the matter so that's good!

I just can't see that kind of mo way for a conversion kit, though... But obviously that's me..


I simply "don't get" those conversion kits...the light .22LR round
doesn't feel the same going off in a pistol designed for .45 ACP, or
even 9mm. The recoil is different, the flip is different, the point of
impact is different. What's the point? When I got my .357 mag pistol and
rifle, I bought a box of .38 Specials, because the guns will fire those,
too...but they feel a lot different in the pistol than the hotter
rounds. The rifle, well, even .357 Mag out of my lever gun feels pretty
soft.




What's the point in shooting 38s in a 357?

Cheaper. Lots cheaper.



Ditto for .22 in a .45.

On Thu, 6 Apr 2017 21:34:04 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 4/6/2017 9:02 PM, Tim wrote:

7:30 PMMr. Luddite
On 4/6/2017 7:19 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, April 6, 2017 at 5:54:50 PM UTC-5, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 4/6/2017 6:36 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
- show quoted text -
I used to alternate .38 and .357 mag rounds in the S&W I had. I've
posted this YouTube link before and you can clearly see the difference
in the two rounds, both in recoil and in sound:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UF00rLj8AEY
......



Very good Richard. I also looked at it like this. If I can't do it with a 38, I'm sure not going to do it with a 357. Impressive target BTW.


I have a confession. I've posted this video a few times to see if
anyone noticed something. I added the closeup of a target to the video
when I made it as a joke on a friend of mine. It obviously isn't the
target I was shooting at. I am not that good of a shooter at that
distance, especially with a .357 Magnum that I had just purchased.

I hit the target but the grouping wasn't close to what it looked like in
the video. :-)

Sounds like you've picked up one of Krause's tricks...but you're honest about it!