Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:16:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/

===

Good memories there, thanks. Those were the days when you could
actually learn something about boating on rec.boats

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:16:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/

I still edit the HTML on the 2 web sites I manage for small changes
but I do have an editor or two. I still won't use Flash or Java since
there are still people worried enough about security to have them
turned off. Flash won't run on my machines until I let it. You would
be surprised how many ads that eliminates, particularly on those
"free" sites we see.
Your browser will open an HTML directly from your hard drive as a
sanity check before you upload it. Pure HTML will open in Word, in
fact I sometimes compose pages there. Most Email ends up being an HTML
if you are doing anything more complex than flat text and I have used
the moldy old AOL 7 I run to compose simple pages. The problem with
that is you need to go in and strip out the email formatting manually
or it shows up on the web page. It only takes a minute or so tho. In
that regard an Email client or Word is as easy as any of the other
ways to get pictures with captions up on a web page.

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 09:40:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:16:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/

===

Good memories there, thanks. Those were the days when you could
actually learn something about boating on rec.boats

Hey Harry schooled us all on long range trawlers. ;-)
Silly me, I thought cruising up the entire coast of the US and looping
around the maritimes in Canada was long range but I seldom get past
Big Carlos Pass.

On 3/9/17 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 09:40:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:16:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/

===

Good memories there, thanks. Those were the days when you could
actually learn something about boating on rec.boats

Hey Harry schooled us all on long range trawlers. ;-)
Silly me, I thought cruising up the entire coast of the US and looping
around the maritimes in Canada was long range but I seldom get past
Big Carlos Pass.



You're confusion an action - cruising - with an object - a slow, full
displacement hull boat.

On 3/9/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:16:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/



Your browser will open an HTML directly from your hard drive as a
sanity check before you upload it. Pure HTML will open in Word, in
fact I sometimes compose pages there.

Sure, *now*. Back then my computer didn't even have Windows. It had
an ensemble called "GeoWorks". Similar in concept to Windows and, at
the time, many considered it superior to Windows I.

I forget what the "browser" was back then or even how it all worked.
I think it may have been Netscape Navigator. I recall "AltaVista" as
being the search engine.

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:31:50 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 3/9/17 11:18 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 09:40:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:16:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/

===

Good memories there, thanks. Those were the days when you could
actually learn something about boating on rec.boats

Hey Harry schooled us all on long range trawlers. ;-)
Silly me, I thought cruising up the entire coast of the US and looping
around the maritimes in Canada was long range but I seldom get past
Big Carlos Pass.



You're confusion an action - cruising - with an object - a slow, full
displacement hull boat.

With a cruising speed in the 8 kt range (what I saw on the SPOT), that
is a displacement hull. You are really getting hung up on semantics
but that is not surprising. If you can't dazzle with brilliance,
baffle with bull****.

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:53:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 3/9/2017 11:15 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:16:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/



Your browser will open an HTML directly from your hard drive as a
sanity check before you upload it. Pure HTML will open in Word, in
fact I sometimes compose pages there.

Sure, *now*. Back then my computer didn't even have Windows. It had
an ensemble called "GeoWorks". Similar in concept to Windows and, at
the time, many considered it superior to Windows I.

I forget what the "browser" was back then or even how it all worked.
I think it may have been Netscape Navigator. I recall "AltaVista" as
being the search engine.

How long ago are we talking about?
HTML did not come into common usage until the early 90s and by then
W/3.1 was around (93).
I was running W/3.1 pretty early because the BB manager of Prodigy
required it. That was the only way to keep my "minutes" down online.
Prodigy embraced 3.1 pretty much from it's release tho, although I ran
the DOS version as long as I could.
I only loaded windows when I absolutely needed it. IBM had a multi
tasker that run under DOS, also allowing 4 VM sessions on the IBM
network and that was my normal desktop application at work.
If you walked up to my PC you would see 4 VM sessions, the DOS box
would have dBase running and I might be using the DOS call function
there to do minor housekeeping.

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 11:18:59 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 09:40:36 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 08:16:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:


Mrs.E. brought up the subject of the old "boats of rec.boats" website
this morning over coffee. Surprisingly, it still exists although not in
the original, complete form. Still, a lot of old names from the past.

When I first created the original website (back in a kinder, more
friendly rec.boats time) the packaged website creation software used
today didn't exist. Everything was done in html code which I learned
from visiting other websites and viewing the "source" code. Shuda been
a hacker. :-)

I remember my computer at the time was a Laser Pal 286 with a 40mb hard
drive with a "high speed" 2400 baud modem. The rec.boats participants
would email me a picture and description of their boat and I'd call up
the code for the website page that was stored on the hard drive and
insert the code to add the person and picture(s) to the list. I'd then
have to upload the entire website code just to add the person. No
method existed to simply add to the current, published code. With a
2400 baud modem each addition to the list took about an hour to do and
upload to publish. The other problem was that I had no way of viewing
what the page looked like until I published it, so if I screwed
something up I had to inspect the html code to see what was wrong, fix
it, and then upload the whole damn thing again. Times have sure
changed. Now you can just drop a picture into a pre-formatted software
package, add some text, publish just the changes and be done in a minute
or so.

Here's the link to what remains of the website:

http://thebayguide.com/rec.boats/

===

Good memories there, thanks. Those were the days when you could
actually learn something about boating on rec.boats

Hey Harry schooled us all on long range trawlers. ;-)
Silly me, I thought cruising up the entire coast of the US and looping
around the maritimes in Canada was long range but I seldom get past
Big Carlos Pass.

===

Interestingly enough you can easily cruise the east coast in a
non-long range boat. We see it all the time where a boat will zoom by
us doing 20+ knots and then we pass them later on in the day while
they are tied to a fuel dock.

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:53:58 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I forget what the "browser" was back then or even how it all worked.
I think it may have been Netscape Navigator. I recall "AltaVista" as
being the search engine.

===

Good old AltaVista. At one time it was arguably the best search
engine on the internet. I believe it was created by Digital Equipment
Corp but they were too dumb and inflexible to realize the value of
what they'd created. It could have saved their failing mini computer
business if they had known what to do with it.