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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:53:43 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
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On 1/24/2017 1:46 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:


The reference was to Arlington Cemetery and "...the graves of those who
died."
Didn't the good teachers at Amity Regional teach you how to read?


Sure did but they didn't have a course in Harry Krause interpretations.


It seems clear to me, in Harry world, the only good soldier is a dead
soldier.
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:12:59 -0500, Poco Deplorevole
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Manning is a traitor. He could have received the death sentence instead
of 35 years. He's sentence ... excuse me ... "her" sentence included
the possibility of parole after 8 years. "She" served 7.
This whole gender change thing is just an attempt to put the cost of the
surgery on the taxpayers.


He's not a she yet, is it? Or, are you just being UPC (ultra-politically correct)?


We should have sent "her" to Afghanistan and let her be a woman there.
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5:55 PMKeyser Soze
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I'm opposed to the military-industrial complex wasting trillions and
trillions of dollars in order to keep officers in uniform and armament
corporations in the money. Manning's surgery isn't even a drop in the
bucket. There's no bigger waste of money than the military. Eisenhower
was right:

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the
genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one
modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30
cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000
population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty
miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a
half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new
homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat,
the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.
This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of
threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. Is there
no other way the world may live?

–Dwight David Eisenhower, “The Chance for Peace,” speech given to the
American Society of Newspaper Editors, Apr. 16, 1953.
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Easy to say that in peacetime. Of course he didnt say that in 1941
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:55:54 -0500, Keyser Soze
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I'm opposed to the military-industrial complex wasting trillions and
trillions of dollars in order to keep officers in uniform and armament
corporations in the money. Manning's surgery isn't even a drop in the
bucket. There's no bigger waste of money than the military


I agree you are right about military waste but this is a worse
disgrace. Manning is a convicted traitor and he should have been shot.
We should not be spending $50,000 to fulfill his sexual fantasy.
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 19:36:02 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
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Eisenhower was talking a world view, not just that of the USA. If our
adversaries, particularly the USSR, agreed and shared the same view the
Cold War would have come to a screaming halt. Unfortunately, that was
not to be, and still isn't.


If there was ever anyone who could deal with a crook like Putin, it
would be a crook like Trump and his hatchet man Tillerson may be a
good tip on the spear. It is certainly time we rolled back the cold
war to at least GHWB levels again. We (the US and the russians) know
we can destroy the world so why argue about who can do it the most
number times?
If the US, China and the russians actually started working together,
the rest of the world better watch out. I think it is those tertiary
powers who want to keep stoking the cold war.
How much money do you think the US pumps into the Eurozone, just
propping up NATO? The russians also spend a lot to counter that threat
on their borders. Without a russian threat, the russians and the US
could spend that money in our own countries.

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On 1/24/17 7:57 PM, Tim wrote:
5:55 PMKeyser Soze
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I'm opposed to the military-industrial complex wasting trillions and
trillions of dollars in order to keep officers in uniform and armament
corporations in the money. Manning's surgery isn't even a drop in the
bucket. There's no bigger waste of money than the military. Eisenhower
was right:

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired
signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not
fed, those who are cold and are not clothed. This world in arms is not
spending money alone. It is spending the sweat of its laborers, the
genius of its scientists, the hopes of its children. The cost of one
modern heavy bomber is this: a modern brick school in more than 30
cities. It is two electric power plants, each serving a town of 60,000
population. It is two fine, fully equipped hospitals. It is some fifty
miles of concrete pavement. We pay for a single fighter plane with a
half million bushels of wheat. We pay for a single destroyer with new
homes that could have housed more than 8,000 people. This is, I repeat,
the best way of life to be found on the road the world has been taking.
This is not a way of life at all, in any true sense. Under the cloud of
threatening war, it is humanity hanging from a cross of iron. Is there
no other way the world may live?

–Dwight David Eisenhower, “The Chance for Peace,” speech given to the
American Society of Newspaper Editors, Apr. 16, 1953.
.....

Easy to say that in peacetime. Of course he didnt say that in 1941


He didn't say it in peacetime. I do understand, though, that you
righties are big fans of the ever-expanding military-industrial complex
and its cancerous growth.
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On Tue, 24 Jan 2017 16:57:20 -0800 (PST), Tim
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Easy to say that in peacetime. Of course he didnt say that in 1941


I think we ended world wars forever in 1945.
We just have silly little proxy wars in 3d world countries because
that is all the planet can deal with.
There is an old saying that if we fight WWIII with nukes (and it will
end up that way), the next war will be fought with stick and rocks.

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