On 1/13/2017 6:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:10:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 1/12/2017 8:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:54:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/17 5:12 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:19:14 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

on Harry's queer way of spelling Navy.

It is just his way to disrespect the people who serve their country.
He managed to dodge the draft and he thinks anyone who served is a
fool
What the **** did he care? He is a borderline communist and he already
speaks russian..


Hey, it's not my fault you were too lazy to find a way to pay for
college back then, when it was relatively inexpensive. And, as I have
told you any number of times, I went to college to further my formal
education. "Dodging" the draft never crossed my mind. Oh, and I speak
and read Russian because I studied it. I like the language and there is
a lot of great literature written in it.

I had a way to pay for college, the GI bill, I just saw it as a 4 year
impediment to my career. Once I was working, IBM offered 100% tuition
reimbursement but again, there was no advantage in going. I already
had the job I wanted and education was included in that job package. I
was learning state of the art computer systems and software at a very
rapid pace, not sitting in a boring class listening to some out of
touch guy who was never actually in the field telling me how important
Boolean Algebra was. I also had no interest in hearing about the
archaic system he worked on in college. Students at Montgomery College
were coming to me because their instructors had no clue about how the
operating system on the 360 in their lab worked in spite of teaching
it.
I said this before and the bet still stands, I bet I have far more
hours of classroom instruction than you do and the amount of "distance
learning" (computer aided classes) and self taught courses will triple
that. In the 60s and early 70s I was averaging 700-800 hours of actual
class time a year, not hanging around the student union or working at
some bull**** part time job. When my daughter was in college, her BA
worked out to about 800 hours of actual class over the whole 4 years.
I started doing as much as I could remotely but I was still 300 to 500
a year in class after that (over 30 years) I was also an instructor
for a while.



Your post caused me to reflect on something that I've come to realize as
I get older.

Accomplishments in life are important along with the reputation you earn
as you pursue them ... at least they were to me. But in the end none of
them really matter for the vast majority of us. When your day comes and
you kick the bucket, people will have a brief, focused review of who you
were, what you did and what kind of a person you were but your legacy of
accomplishments will quickly fade and be all but forgotten in a
relatively short time. We are all replaceable.

That's why you should give each of your grandkids a pocket knife. Then you'll be remembered. Until
they lose it.



My grandfather immigrated from Sweden. In his final years he sat down
and wrote an autobiography. He described being raised on a farm in
Sweden, attending school and his later life in the USA which included
that of an infantryman in WW1. He was a maritime engineer and the bulk
of the autobiography focused on the many ships and projects he worked
on. He'd describe in great detail the electrical power distribution on
a Navy ship and, in the middle of the detailed technical writing, insert
a sentence ... "Helen (his wife) gave birth to my second son on Dec
6th". That's it. Then back to the USS Detroit's electrical issues. It
is hilarious in many respects with the miss-spellings of words that
causes memories of his Swedish accent to arise and sobering in others.
I have the original, handwritten document. I scanned it all (which
took a while) and distributed digital copies to the rest of the family
who knew him.

I have his penknife that he brought with him from Sweden along with an
old fashioned pocket watch made in 1912.

On 1/13/17 9:55 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/13/2017 6:06 AM, Poco Loco wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 05:10:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/12/2017 8:28 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 18:54:57 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/17 5:12 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jan 2017 16:19:14 -0500 (EST), justan wrote:

on Harry's queer way of spelling Navy.

It is just his way to disrespect the people who serve their country.
He managed to dodge the draft and he thinks anyone who served is a
fool
What the **** did he care? He is a borderline communist and he
already
speaks russian..


Hey, it's not my fault you were too lazy to find a way to pay for
college back then, when it was relatively inexpensive. And, as I have
told you any number of times, I went to college to further my formal
education. "Dodging" the draft never crossed my mind. Oh, and I speak
and read Russian because I studied it. I like the language and
there is
a lot of great literature written in it.

I had a way to pay for college, the GI bill, I just saw it as a 4 year
impediment to my career. Once I was working, IBM offered 100% tuition
reimbursement but again, there was no advantage in going. I already
had the job I wanted and education was included in that job package. I
was learning state of the art computer systems and software at a very
rapid pace, not sitting in a boring class listening to some out of
touch guy who was never actually in the field telling me how important
Boolean Algebra was. I also had no interest in hearing about the
archaic system he worked on in college. Students at Montgomery College
were coming to me because their instructors had no clue about how the
operating system on the 360 in their lab worked in spite of teaching
it.
I said this before and the bet still stands, I bet I have far more
hours of classroom instruction than you do and the amount of "distance
learning" (computer aided classes) and self taught courses will triple
that. In the 60s and early 70s I was averaging 700-800 hours of actual
class time a year, not hanging around the student union or working at
some bull**** part time job. When my daughter was in college, her BA
worked out to about 800 hours of actual class over the whole 4 years.
I started doing as much as I could remotely but I was still 300 to 500
a year in class after that (over 30 years) I was also an instructor
for a while.



Your post caused me to reflect on something that I've come to realize as
I get older.

Accomplishments in life are important along with the reputation you earn
as you pursue them ... at least they were to me. But in the end none of
them really matter for the vast majority of us. When your day comes and
you kick the bucket, people will have a brief, focused review of who you
were, what you did and what kind of a person you were but your legacy of
accomplishments will quickly fade and be all but forgotten in a
relatively short time. We are all replaceable.

That's why you should give each of your grandkids a pocket knife. Then
you'll be remembered. Until
they lose it.



My grandfather immigrated from Sweden. In his final years he sat down
and wrote an autobiography. He described being raised on a farm in
Sweden, attending school and his later life in the USA which included
that of an infantryman in WW1. He was a maritime engineer and the bulk
of the autobiography focused on the many ships and projects he worked
on. He'd describe in great detail the electrical power distribution on
a Navy ship and, in the middle of the detailed technical writing, insert
a sentence ... "Helen (his wife) gave birth to my second son on Dec
6th". That's it. Then back to the USS Detroit's electrical issues. It
is hilarious in many respects with the miss-spellings of words that
causes memories of his Swedish accent to arise and sobering in others. I
have the original, handwritten document. I scanned it all (which took
a while) and distributed digital copies to the rest of the family who
knew him.

I have his penknife that he brought with him from Sweden along with an
old fashioned pocket watch made in 1912.

My maternal grandfather was a journeyman saddlemaker in "the old
country," traveling from village to village and farm to farm making and
repairing saddles and farm gear. When he came to America, he got work at
a butcher shop and in a few years opened his own butcher shop. I have
some of his tools from Europe and a couple of his knives from his
butcher shop.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:29:27 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/17 8:28 PM, wrote:

I said this before and the bet still stands, I bet I have far more
hours of classroom instruction than you do and the amount of "distance
learning" (computer aided classes) and self taught courses will triple
that. In the 60s and early 70s I was averaging 700-800 hours of actual
class time a year, not hanging around the student union or working at
some bull**** part time job. When my daughter was in college, her BA
worked out to about 800 hours of actual class over the whole 4 years.
I started doing as much as I could remotely but I was still 300 to 500
a year in class after that (over 30 years) I was also an instructor
for a while.


As I have stated any number of times, I was not interested in trade
school. I did take a couple of those kinds of courses as electives in
college, in typography, if memory serves, but the only actual "job
training courses" I took were in welding in the summers and in editing
during my 40-hour weeks the first two years I worked at the newspaper as
a reporter and then as a reporter and copy editor. I'd do my assignments
from the city desk and features desk when I got to work in the
afternoon, and when I finished them up, usually by 9 or 10 pm, I'd get
an invite to work on editing wire copy under the tutelage of some
hard-nosed newspaper copy editors.

I guess that explains why I am comfortably retired after a rewarding
career and you are still riding the bus, trying to hustle up a living.

On 1/13/17 11:02 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:29:27 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/17 8:28 PM, wrote:

I said this before and the bet still stands, I bet I have far more
hours of classroom instruction than you do and the amount of "distance
learning" (computer aided classes) and self taught courses will triple
that. In the 60s and early 70s I was averaging 700-800 hours of actual
class time a year, not hanging around the student union or working at
some bull**** part time job. When my daughter was in college, her BA
worked out to about 800 hours of actual class over the whole 4 years.
I started doing as much as I could remotely but I was still 300 to 500
a year in class after that (over 30 years) I was also an instructor
for a while.


As I have stated any number of times, I was not interested in trade
school. I did take a couple of those kinds of courses as electives in
college, in typography, if memory serves, but the only actual "job
training courses" I took were in welding in the summers and in editing
during my 40-hour weeks the first two years I worked at the newspaper as
a reporter and then as a reporter and copy editor. I'd do my assignments
from the city desk and features desk when I got to work in the
afternoon, and when I finished them up, usually by 9 or 10 pm, I'd get
an invite to work on editing wire copy under the tutelage of some
hard-nosed newspaper copy editors.

I guess that explains why I am comfortably retired after a rewarding
career and you are still riding the bus, trying to hustle up a living.


This is about the sixth time you've repeated this moronic catechism of
yours. I'm still working because I like to work. It gets me into a
business suit every couple of weeks, I ride the bus to downtown DC every
couple of weeks, I do lunch every couple of weeks with some really
bright people, I get to contribute ideas and work product for which I am
nicely paid, I get trips to Geneva, Kenya, Rome and other interesting
places...Looks like a nice client-paid trip to London is coming up later
this year, a trip that will also allow us to attend several performances
of The Proms.

I'm not and never have been the kind of guy who needs an endless supply
of make-work handyman projects, as you do, to stay busy.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:20:58 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm not and never have been the kind of guy who needs an endless supply
of make-work handyman projects, as you do, to stay busy.

The world needs people who actually design and build things and I
suppose others find a need to write about it.

On 1/13/17 12:29 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:20:58 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm not and never have been the kind of guy who needs an endless supply
of make-work handyman projects, as you do, to stay busy.

The world needs people who actually design and build things and I
suppose others find a need to write about it.



There's an ever-pressing need for tiki bars and stone-faced stereo
cabinets, I suppose.

Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 1/13/17 11:02 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 08:29:27 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/12/17 8:28 PM, wrote:

I said this before and the bet still stands, I bet I have far more
hours of classroom instruction than you do and the amount of "distance
learning" (computer aided classes) and self taught courses will triple
that. In the 60s and early 70s I was averaging 700-800 hours of actual
class time a year, not hanging around the student union or working at
some bull**** part time job. When my daughter was in college, her BA
worked out to about 800 hours of actual class over the whole 4 years.
I started doing as much as I could remotely but I was still 300 to 500
a year in class after that (over 30 years) I was also an instructor
for a while.


As I have stated any number of times, I was not interested in trade
school. I did take a couple of those kinds of courses as electives in
college, in typography, if memory serves, but the only actual "job
training courses" I took were in welding in the summers and in editing
during my 40-hour weeks the first two years I worked at the newspaper as
a reporter and then as a reporter and copy editor. I'd do my assignments
from the city desk and features desk when I got to work in the
afternoon, and when I finished them up, usually by 9 or 10 pm, I'd get
an invite to work on editing wire copy under the tutelage of some
hard-nosed newspaper copy editors.

I guess that explains why I am comfortably retired after a rewarding
career and you are still riding the bus, trying to hustle up a living.


This is about the sixth time you've repeated this moronic catechism of
yours. I'm still working because I like to work. It gets me into a
business suit every couple of weeks, I ride the bus to downtown DC every
couple of weeks, I do lunch every couple of weeks with some really
bright people, I get to contribute ideas and work product for which I am
nicely paid, I get trips to Geneva, Kenya, Rome and other interesting
places...Looks like a nice client-paid trip to London is coming up later
this year, a trip that will also allow us to attend several performances
of The Proms.

I'm not and never have been the kind of guy who needs an endless supply
of make-work handyman projects, as you do, to stay busy.


So you just sit around like a bump on a log?
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On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:31:19 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/13/17 12:29 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:20:58 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm not and never have been the kind of guy who needs an endless supply
of make-work handyman projects, as you do, to stay busy.

The world needs people who actually design and build things and I
suppose others find a need to write about it.



There's an ever-pressing need for tiki bars and stone-faced stereo
cabinets, I suppose.

That just scratches the surface of the things I do. Your understanding
is only limited by your lack of imagination. It probably comes from
being told how to think all your life.

On 1/13/17 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:31:19 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/13/17 12:29 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:20:58 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm not and never have been the kind of guy who needs an endless supply
of make-work handyman projects, as you do, to stay busy.

The world needs people who actually design and build things and I
suppose others find a need to write about it.



There's an ever-pressing need for tiki bars and stone-faced stereo
cabinets, I suppose.

That just scratches the surface of the things I do. Your understanding
is only limited by your lack of imagination. It probably comes from
being told how to think all your life.


Why, you're a regular jackoff of all trades, eh?

On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:10:36 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/13/17 1:04 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:31:19 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 1/13/17 12:29 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jan 2017 12:20:58 -0500, Keyser Soze
wrote:

I'm not and never have been the kind of guy who needs an endless supply
of make-work handyman projects, as you do, to stay busy.

The world needs people who actually design and build things and I
suppose others find a need to write about it.



There's an ever-pressing need for tiki bars and stone-faced stereo
cabinets, I suppose.

That just scratches the surface of the things I do. Your understanding
is only limited by your lack of imagination. It probably comes from
being told how to think all your life.


Why, you're a regular jackoff of all trades, eh?

You and Donnee cannot seem to get masturbation, feces, and toilet bowls out of your heads. Was it
poor potty training?