On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:41:37 -0500, Keyser Soze wrote:

On 1/9/17 4:34 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 10:54:49 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:


steal your posessions with a knife or a gun, a bankster will steal your
possesiions with a pen, paper and "legal" (read "unjust") mumbo-jumbo
snakeoil bull****.
....

Is that what happened to you? Harry is that why you're so bitter?

I am not sure what happened to Harry, I am not that interested in
pursuing public records but I will say I have been in the data centers
of banks and the people there are no different than the data people at
NIH or National Geographic.


How many people are victimized by the tech nerds at NIH or National Geo?

I don't have any personal issues with banks. I don't like any of the
ones with which I deal, but it's nothing personal.

I never saw anyone victimized by the guys in IT at C&S/Soverign or
First Florida either. I doubt most people understand how much is
involved in processing a check or a deposit slip.
The weasels in the corporate offices may be another matter but that is
true everywhere.
The branch people at my banks treat me very nicely. You just need
enough on deposit to trigger the "nice" switch.

On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 16:48:11 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 11:48:38 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

According to the Ford news release the new Ranger will be a "mid sized"
pickup.


What is mid sized and full sized these days. Rented a full size car at
Alamo in San Jose Cabo. Camry.

I suppose the mid size will be the Sport Trak rebadged with a larger
bed and 2 seats. Mine is still a "truck" if that means body on frame.
It seems to do OK. They rate it 1/2 ton and I did bring a pallet of
tile home from the tile store OK. (probably more like 1500 pounds)
I haven't tried a pallet of sod yet but that is coming up when it
starts raining again here. I know the F150 was OK with that.


And sometimes you overload accidentally. Bought a pallet of pavers. Was
dark when Homedespot loaded the truck. Handled very light in the front
end. Looked out in the morning and was almost doing a wheelie. Sign said
2000# per pallet. They said a pallet was 2 deep, not 5 deep like had.
Figured 4500#. S-10 4x4 was rated a 3/4 ton. Had helper springs on rear.
Heck that lad would have made my 3/4 ton full size Chevy squat.

When we were rescuing stuff destined for the dumpster at one of my
wife's jobs I got a whole pallet of pavers in the back of old Brownie
(1986 F150) I know the squat ;-)
Judy's buddy Martìn (Mexican guy) deftly dropped it in with a Bobcat
but the caked on mud dropped out from underneath the truck, leaving a
perfect imprint of where the truck was sitting.

On Mon, 09 Jan 2017 20:32:35 -0500,
wrote:

Several times I have been offered a "free" upgrade in size after
complaining. There really aren't too many cars these days that are
truly full sized now that the Ford Crown Vic has gone away. Best bet
if you really need size is to get a mini van like the Dodge Caravan or
Toyota Sienna.

This is the upgrade they gave us for a Sorrento

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Michigan%202016/cabin.jpg

Nice ride, lots of doodads

On Monday, January 9, 2017 at 5:32:43 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 15:33:27 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 1/9/2017 12:48 PM, Califbill wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2017 11:25 AM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 9 January 2017 11:38:38 UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2017 10:25 AM, True North wrote:
Keyser Sozo says..

"The latest Honda Ridgeline is available with AWD, but I don't believe it
has the towing capacity you might want, and it is not a separate
frame/body pickup. But it is very comfy and carlike on the interior and
in the ride."



A 5k tow rating should be just enough to tow a 4000 lb
trailer.....especially if it's only occasionally tows like we'd do up here.
As far as the Tacoma....it would be my choice of truck if only the cab
was higher. From what Consumer Reports used to say...it has the same
low seat design as the old Ford Ranger. Maybe a good design to help
with gas mileage but I'd want to sit up in a seat not inches off the
floor and I don't have long legs.



Timely discussion. I just saw on the news that Ford is going to start
producing a Ranger again, along with a Bronco. Both will be built in
the good ol' USA. :-)

I may wait and see what the new design Ranger and it's specs are. It
was dropped because it's design and engines had become outdated
(basically it was a Mazda B-2000). I'll bet with the more powerful and
advanced 4 and 6 cylinder engines available today it could be a serious
contender again.

I've owned three of them in the past, one in Florida and two up here.
The last one I had was the "Level 3" version (or something like that).
It was a 4x4, had larger tires and sat higher than a standard Ranger.
All of them were great little trucks and the only reason I traded in the
Level 3 was that I needed more towing capacity at the time. Otherwise,
I would have kept it.


When they were getting rid of the Ranger there was talk of a new smaller
pickup...mayte a F100 or something that Ford was developing. Always
wondered what happened to it. Assumed it couldn't compete with the Tacoma.
I like the looks of the Nissan Frontier with it's boxier cab. Almost
bought one from a military family who were renting next door from
another military family. The Frontier owners had been assigned to NATO
in Brussels so wanted to get rid of the black Frontier with it's
matching cap. Only trouble is...it had the four cylinder engine, manual
transmission (not good for wife) and a low tow rating.
I had leased the auto 6 cyl 2006 Ranger to tow my sailboat. Man, those
hard foam low seats were hard to get used to. I remember calling my
salesman and asking if I could upgrade to the F150. He said to hang on
and the foam would soon conform to me. He was partially right and I
actually used the Ranger to tow my mini cruiser sailboat on a 3000 mile
round trip to a Rendezvous north of Toronto. Have to admit, I wasn't sad
when the three year lease was up and I'm sure the wife was overjoyed.
Especially when the last couple of model years dropped almost $10K in MSL price.



According to the Ford news release the new Ranger will be a "mid sized"
pickup.


What is mid sized and full sized these days. Rented a full size car at
Alamo in San Jose Cabo. Camry.



I know. I get a kick out of it. My Altima is considered to be a "full
sized" car. It's size used to be considered a "compact".

===

Several times I have been offered a "free" upgrade in size after
complaining. There really aren't too many cars these days that are
truly full sized now that the Ford Crown Vic has gone away. Best bet
if you really need size is to get a mini van like the Dodge Caravan or
Toyota Sienna.

I rode in my buddys Mercury Marauder the same as a Crown Vic, Worst legroom in the rear passenger compartment of any 4 door I've ever had the displeasure of riding in!

For such a large car I was really disappointed in it.

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 19:58:14 -0800 (PST), wrote:


I rode in my buddys Mercury Marauder the same as a Crown Vic, Worst legroom in the rear passenger compartment of any 4 door I've ever had the displeasure of riding in!

For such a large car I was really disappointed in it.

That is a cop car and they don't care that much about the comfort of
the people in the back ;-)

I think the last good "big car" was the "C" body GM. RIP around 1976.

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:08:59 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 19:58:14 -0800 (PST), wrote:


I rode in my buddys Mercury Marauder the same as a Crown Vic, Worst legroom in the rear passenger compartment of any 4 door I've ever had the displeasure of riding in!

For such a large car I was really disappointed in it.

That is a cop car and they don't care that much about the comfort of
the people in the back ;-)

I think the last good "big car" was the "C" body GM. RIP around 1976.

===

Was that the last of the big Caddys?

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:43:33 -0500,
wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:08:59 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 9 Jan 2017 19:58:14 -0800 (PST), wrote:


I rode in my buddys Mercury Marauder the same as a Crown Vic, Worst legroom in the rear passenger compartment of any 4 door I've ever had the displeasure of riding in!

For such a large car I was really disappointed in it.

That is a cop car and they don't care that much about the comfort of
the people in the back ;-)

I think the last good "big car" was the "C" body GM. RIP around 1976.

===

Was that the last of the big Caddys?

Yup.

Alex
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2017 6:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/17 6:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2017 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/8/17 5:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2017 1:06 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
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"Check out the Honda Ridgeliner. Â*Barely a truck but well received."



Say what!
I thought you know-it-alls claimed that a uni-body vehicle couldn't be a truck
I expect an apology for the ridicule heaped on my Rav4 and my Highlander.

On 1/10/2017 7:20 AM, True North wrote:
Alex
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2017 6:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/17 6:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2017 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/8/17 5:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2017 1:06 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
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- show quoted text -
"Check out the Honda Ridgeliner. Barely a truck but well received."



Say what!
I thought you know-it-alls claimed that a uni-body vehicle couldn't be a truck
I expect an apology for the ridicule heaped on my Rav4 and my Highlander.



That was basically true in the past. Unibody construction wasn't stiff
enough (or strong enough) to handle the loads typically encountered with
a truck's potential usages. However, more recent unibody designs have
supposedly taken that into account. The new Honda Ridgeline is
promoting the fact that it's unibody construction is still rated to tow
up to 5,000 lbs.

I doubt very much you'll see a unibody truck being recommended for snow
plowing soon though.

On 1/10/17 7:41 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/10/2017 7:20 AM, True North wrote:
Alex
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/9/2017 6:44 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/9/17 6:02 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2017 6:15 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 1/8/17 5:47 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/8/2017 1:06 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
- show quoted text -
- show quoted text -
"Check out the Honda Ridgeliner. Barely a truck but well received."



Say what!
I thought you know-it-alls claimed that a uni-body vehicle couldn't be
a truck
I expect an apology for the ridicule heaped on my Rav4 and my Highlander.



That was basically true in the past. Unibody construction wasn't stiff
enough (or strong enough) to handle the loads typically encountered with
a truck's potential usages. However, more recent unibody designs have
supposedly taken that into account. The new Honda Ridgeline is
promoting the fact that it's unibody construction is still rated to tow
up to 5,000 lbs.

I doubt very much you'll see a unibody truck being recommended for snow
plowing soon though.

Wow. I don't know that I'd want to tow a 5000 pound trailer/load behind
one of these new, smaller trucks. Mine is rated at 6400 pounds, but I
wonder at braking capabilities and the ability to tow that load up hilly
inclines.