Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:05:11 PM UTC-5, Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?

Could be. Was it disassembled and cleaned? Even a brand-new pistol can have manufacturing "stuff" inside that can cause problem. And I have seen some new stuff that just didn't want to run, and had to be sent back for factory tuning to clear them up.

I picked up a new AeroPrecision M4E1 a few weeks ago. First thing I did was to field strip and clean it, then took it to the range to run a couple of clips through it. Ran like a top.

Its Me wrote:
On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:05:11 PM UTC-5, Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger
SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it,
chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first
eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the
slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different
magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun
functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems
like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop,
telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp
wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up
his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock
back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the
slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a
wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem
whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?

Could be. Was it disassembled and cleaned? Even a brand-new pistol can
have manufacturing "stuff" inside that can cause problem. And I have
seen some new stuff that just didn't want to run, and had to be sent back
for factory tuning to clear them up.

I picked up a new AeroPrecision M4E1 a few weeks ago. First thing I did
was to field strip and clean it, then took it to the range to run a
couple of clips through it. Ran like a top.


My Ithaca 20 feather lite had a small piece of metal from the lathe that I
had to remove on first pheasant trip. Still have no idea where it was
hiding. Had cleaned and shot it at the range before.

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:45:23 -0800 (PST), Its Me wrote:

On Monday, December 19, 2016 at 4:05:11 PM UTC-5, Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?

Could be. Was it disassembled and cleaned? Even a brand-new pistol can have manufacturing "stuff" inside that can cause problem. And I have seen some new stuff that just didn't want to run, and had to be sent back for factory tuning to clear them up.

I picked up a new AeroPrecision M4E1 a few weeks ago. First thing I did was to field strip and clean it, then took it to the range to run a couple of clips through it. Ran like a top.

Yeah, we disassembled and cleaned it before hitting the range this morning.

Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?


The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with
it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it
could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger.
Their customer service is fantastic.

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?


The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with
it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it
could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger.
Their customer service is fantastic.

I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting
'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things
to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I
know Alex. :)

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?

The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with
it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it
could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger.
Their customer service is fantastic.
I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting
'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things
to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I
know Alex. :)

That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there...

On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?

The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with
it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it
could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger.
Their customer service is fantastic.
I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting
'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things
to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I
know Alex. :)

That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there...

Last night I'm thinking, OK, the gun works for me but is giving Carmen fits. None of the other guns
I've seen Carmen shoot have given him this problem. So why this one? I'm going to call Ruger today
and see what they say.

Poco Loco Wrote in message:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?

The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with
it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it
could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger.
Their customer service is fantastic.
I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting
'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things
to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I
know Alex. :)

That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there...

Last night I'm thinking, OK, the gun works for me but is giving Carmen fits. None of the other guns
I've seen Carmen shoot have given him this problem. So why this one? I'm going to call Ruger today
and see what they say.


Watch him shoot it. It's probably excessive muzzle flip as a
result of limp wristing.
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On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:16:02 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
On Mon, 19 Dec 2016 18:47:30 -0500, Alex wrote:

Poco Loco wrote:
Took my buddy, Carmen, to the range today to try out the new Ruger SR1911. Carmen started the
shooting and withing three rounds had a stovepipe. He cleared it, chambered another round and had
another stovepipe within a couple rounds. He had three in the first eight rounds fired. He continued
shooting, going through 25 rounds or so, still having stovepipes and the slide not remaining in the
open position when the last round was fired. We tried different magazines and different ammo (we'd
been using the aluminum cased ammo), but nothing seemed to work.

I asked to shoot it, and went through three or four magazines. The gun functioned perfectly! In
fact, I think I was more accurate with it than with the Kimber. Seems like the sight dots are easier
to see on the Ruger. Anyway, I remembered my brother, retired cop, telling me once about his
daughter trying to shoot a new gun and having problems. He blamed 'limp wristing' as he had no
problem shooting the gun. This was a S&W SD9 VE.

I mentioned this to Carmen, he extended his arm a lot more and firmed up his wrist. Lo and behold -
no problem, except that a couple times the slide still wouldn't lock back after the last round. We
then went to loading the magazines with only two rounds just to test the slide lock. It worked for
me 100% of the time, for Carmen about 50% of the time.

So, we deduced that Carmen needs to firm up his wrist. He will bring a wrist brace next week. We'll
see what happens.

But, here's the question. When he shoots the Kimber, he has no problem whatsoever. Could some of
this be due to the Ruger being new and needing 'breaking in'?

The spring is new and firmer so that might have something to do with
it. I've run 400-500 rounds through mine without any problems so it
could be something else. If it doesn't clear up send it back to Ruger.
Their customer service is fantastic.
I may take it to the range and just pump some ammo through it to see if it loosens up a bit. Putting
'slide not locking back after last round' in google gave me some ideas also, or at least some things
to look at. Then we'll try it again. If any problems I'll call Ruger. I'll be sure and tell them I
know Alex. :)

That was made in Prescott, AZ. I don't know anyone there...

So yesterday I took SIL and two boys to the range. We put 200 rounds through the Ruger. The boys did
not have any stove pipe problems, but did have cases where the slide would not lock back after the
last round. Gave them the 'limp wrist' talk, and had them fire all four magazines with only two
rounds each. After a few of those drills, they had no more problem with failures of the slide to
lock. Had a great time. They went through almost 400 rounds of .22, with the Mark IV and the
Heritage Rough Rider single action .22 revolver. They loved that gun, and I agreed it was fun to
shoot - accurate too. They also put 150 rounds of 9mm through the Sig P226. The range wasn't
crowded, so we were given two lanes. Made life much easier than trying to have four people work in
one lane.

I will say this about the Ruger. It seems to have the strongest mainspring I've ever encountered in
a pistol. Unless the hammer is back, it takes almost all I've got to rack that damn slide. I might
check into a weaker mainspring.