On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

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It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck.

I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it
was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much.


Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is
this just more of your "same same" delusion?


How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In
California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates,
unless all you hauled was suitcases.

Same way you call a van a truck.


If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial
plate van.


I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus
unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck
chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis
basically.

I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they
separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV)
Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in
the VIN)
There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined
in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN
if it is there. (position 4-7)

I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a
dream.

I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.

Damn, the least I could have done was express a bit of sympathy! Sorry to hear about the crackup. How bad are the injuries? Who proclaimed the bike totaled? Could be you could buy it back and fix it with used parts. My Dutch friend did that with a new Guzzi a few years back. Got his check from the insurance for $18K, or so, then bought the bike back from them for about $4K.. The bike needed a whole new front end, but that was it. He had it up and running again for about $2K.

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

.
It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck.

I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it
was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much.


Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is
this just more of your "same same" delusion?


How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In
California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates,
unless all you hauled was suitcases.

Same way you call a van a truck.


If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial
plate van.


I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus
unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck
chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis
basically.

I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they
separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV)
Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in
the VIN)
There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined
in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN
if it is there. (position 4-7)

I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a
dream.

I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.

Damn, the least I could have done was express a bit of sympathy! Sorry to hear about the crackup. How bad are the injuries? Who proclaimed the bike totaled? Could be you could buy it back and fix it with used parts. My Dutch friend did that with a new Guzzi a few years back. Got his check from the insurance for $18K, or so, then bought the bike back from them for about $4K. The bike needed a whole new front end, but that was it. He had it up and running again for about $2K.

Thanks, The bike is a 30yr old airhead GS Paris Dakar, I was riding with friends on a gravel fireroad an biffed it into a tree, Smashed the bars, tank, and tore up the starboard jug, along with a broke leg, foot and separated shoulder.

The bike is insured, but I'm not going to make a claim since it was all my doing, That and the fact insurance wouldn't give me much for it anyway.
I'm a pretty good wrench so will do a rebuild this spring. The hardest part will be finding a new tank.

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Thanks, The bike is a 30yr old airhead GS Paris Dakar, I was riding with friends on a gravel fireroad an biffed it into a tree, Smashed the bars, tank, and tore up the starboard jug, along with a broke leg, foot and separated shoulder.

The bike is insured, but I'm not going to make a claim since it was all my doing, That and the fact insurance wouldn't give me much for it anyway.
I'm a pretty good wrench so will do a rebuild this spring. The hardest part will be finding a new tank.
.....



If you're on Facebook there's several Beemer bike and parts sites you might try that. I Lao know a guy in s. Illinois that deals in used Guzzi and BMW parts bikes. His pricing is fair. If you need his number let me know ..

I'd still claim it and let the ins co total it but only if they have a "buy it back" clause. Like John said. May as well let the ins co pay for some of the parts. That's what you've paid premiums for.

On Tue, 22 Nov 2016 09:00:56 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

.
It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck.

I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it
was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much.


Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is
this just more of your "same same" delusion?


How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In
California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates,
unless all you hauled was suitcases.

Same way you call a van a truck.


If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial
plate van.


I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus
unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck
chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis
basically.

I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they
separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV)
Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in
the VIN)
There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined
in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN
if it is there. (position 4-7)

I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a
dream.

I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.

Damn, the least I could have done was express a bit of sympathy! Sorry to hear about the crackup. How bad are the injuries? Who proclaimed the bike totaled? Could be you could buy it back and fix it with used parts. My Dutch friend did that with a new Guzzi a few years back. Got his check from the insurance for $18K, or so, then bought the bike back from them for about $4K. The bike needed a whole new front end, but that was it. He had it up and running again for about $2K.

Thanks, The bike is a 30yr old airhead GS Paris Dakar, I was riding with friends on a gravel fireroad an biffed it into a tree, Smashed the bars, tank, and tore up the starboard jug, along with a broke leg, foot and separated shoulder.

The bike is insured, but I'm not going to make a claim since it was all my doing, That and the fact insurance wouldn't give me much for it anyway.
I'm a pretty good wrench so will do a rebuild this spring. The hardest part will be finding a new tank.


Well, that helps explain the interest in the Stelvio. Ewww. Damage sounds more than superficial.
Moto Guzzi made a bike called the Quota, which was similar to the Paris Dakar. Rode one in Europe.
Nice riding bike, but the windscreen was too low for me. Wind tried to pull my helmet off.

There is a place up in Lynnwood, WA, that sells used bike parts. I lost a lid to a Calafia
saddlebag, from a 1974 Guzzi, and damn if they didn't have one in stock. Bent Bike Shop:

http://www.bentbikemotorcycles.com/xcart/

Might be worth giving them a call.

....and here I thought my '89 Guzzi was getting old.

On 11/22/2016 12:00 PM, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 5:44:54 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 7:50:54 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Tuesday, November 22, 2016 at 4:18:55 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 21:59:31 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 20:04:10 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 11/21/2016 7:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 15:35:28 -0600, Califbill
wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Mon, 21 Nov 2016 12:11:59 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

.
It's registered as a truck and the insurance company rates it as a truck.

I had a VW based dune buggy with a 36HP motor and no bumpers and it
was titled as a 1/2 ton truck in Maryland so that does not mean much.


Maryland and Nova Scotia/Canada share vehicle definition criteria or is
this just more of your "same same" delusion?


How do you rate a closed SUV as a truck? Where is the load bed? In
California, if was rated as a truck, would pay extra for commercial plates,
unless all you hauled was suitcases.

Same way you call a van a truck.


If you have a van without side windows in the back, then is a commercial
plate van.


I think the difference in modern vechicles is body on frame versus
unibody construction. The 4Runner is body on frame, which is a truck
chassis. Small vans are usually of unibody construction ... car chassis
basically.

I did a little looking at the CFR that regulates the MCO and they
separate the vehicles as Passenger car, Multipurpose vehicle (SUV)
Truck, Motorcycle, Trailer and incomplete vehicle on the MCO. (and in
the VIN)
There may also be an indicator of body style but that is not defined
in the CFR. It ends up in the manufacturer defined fields of the VIN
if it is there. (position 4-7)

I've done some checking of my own. My Moto Guzzi is definitely a motorcycle. Krause's Ducati is a
dream.

I've been looking online at the MG Stelvio, Had a getoff on my BMW last month, Looks to be totaled from what I've heard, Stuck in wheelchair for now so haven't been able to get out in the garage to give it a look yet.

Damn, the least I could have done was express a bit of sympathy! Sorry to hear about the crackup. How bad are the injuries? Who proclaimed the bike totaled? Could be you could buy it back and fix it with used parts. My Dutch friend did that with a new Guzzi a few years back. Got his check from the insurance for $18K, or so, then bought the bike back from them for about $4K. The bike needed a whole new front end, but that was it. He had it up and running again for about $2K.

Thanks, The bike is a 30yr old airhead GS Paris Dakar, I was riding with friends on a gravel fireroad an biffed it into a tree, Smashed the bars, tank, and tore up the starboard jug, along with a broke leg, foot and separated shoulder.

The bike is insured, but I'm not going to make a claim since it was all my doing, That and the fact insurance wouldn't give me much for it anyway.
I'm a pretty good wrench so will do a rebuild this spring. The hardest part will be finding a new tank.



Hope you and the bike heal 100%.

Hope you and the bike heal 100%.

Thanks.
I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you finished playing in the dirt now..
I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to.

On 11/22/2016 7:04 PM, wrote:

Hope you and the bike heal 100%.

Thanks.
I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you finished playing in the dirt now..
I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to.



Frankly, the main reason I sold my last motorcycle was because I was
starting to feel less comfortable with my reflexes and ability to avoid
potential accidents. Never had a major issue but in your 60's your
reaction time (for most of us anyway) just isn't the same as in your
30's. That, plus the fact that the bike (Harley Ultra Classic) was
close to 900lbs and was becoming a bit of a chore to push around. Maybe
if I had kept a Softail or something a bit lighter, I would still be riding.

On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:23:24 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2016 7:04 PM, wrote:

Hope you and the bike heal 100%.

Thanks.
I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you finished playing in the dirt now..
I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to.



Frankly, the main reason I sold my last motorcycle was because I was
starting to feel less comfortable with my reflexes and ability to avoid
potential accidents. Never had a major issue but in your 60's your
reaction time (for most of us anyway) just isn't the same as in your
30's. That, plus the fact that the bike (Harley Ultra Classic) was
close to 900lbs and was becoming a bit of a chore to push around. Maybe
if I had kept a Softail or something a bit lighter, I would still be riding.


My next ride: http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Hon...ilverwing.html,
for the reasons you cited.

On Wednesday, November 23, 2016 at 5:00:42 AM UTC-8, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 23 Nov 2016 07:23:24 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 11/22/2016 7:04 PM, wrote:

Hope you and the bike heal 100%.

Thanks.
I need to start taking it slower, or as my wife asked me, "are you finished playing in the dirt now..
I guess I just don't heal as well as I used to.



Frankly, the main reason I sold my last motorcycle was because I was
starting to feel less comfortable with my reflexes and ability to avoid
potential accidents. Never had a major issue but in your 60's your
reaction time (for most of us anyway) just isn't the same as in your
30's. That, plus the fact that the bike (Harley Ultra Classic) was
close to 900lbs and was becoming a bit of a chore to push around. Maybe
if I had kept a Softail or something a bit lighter, I would still be riding.


My next ride: http://www.motorscooterguide.net/Hon...ilverwing.html,
for the reasons you cited.

I'm into Adventure bikes as you know, Honda is coming out with the ADV X model scooter and is something I'd consider if they bring it to the US market.
I'm at that age also where throwing my leg over a tall ADV bike ends with me kicking at it half the time these days.