Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On 9/9/16 8:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/8/2016 10:11 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/8/16 8:43 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 9:29 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math
and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why
would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you
could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are
the
ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster
tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the
navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a
joke
to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction
and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn
other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is
"experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things
with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests
itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of
student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think
"trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads
to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract
thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't
going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.

You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great
accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold?


Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a
home. Putting it simply, you are a loser
Krauster.



Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold?
You haven't been cleared for that sort of information.

Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are.

It's only a secret from you. I don't mind giving out some personal
information to people I like and respect. What an asshat you are. GFY


Responding to a question about what your wife did for a living before
she retired is not giving out personal information, but, of course, you
are too stupid to understand that.

No, unlike you he is smart enough not to provide you with information
you don't need. You don't have a "need to know".


Your moron buddy is obsessed with my wife. It's okay with me if his wife
worked as a Walmart cashier or whatever, and saying that is not
revealing any personal information.

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On 9/9/2016 8:23 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/9/16 8:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/8/2016 10:11 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/8/16 8:43 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 9:29 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math
and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why
would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you
could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are
the
ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much
faster
tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and
the
navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a
joke
to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction
and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to
learn
other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is
"experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things
with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests
itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of
student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think
"trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads
to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract
thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't
going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.

You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of
great
accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold?


Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a
home. Putting it simply, you are a loser
Krauster.



Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold?
You haven't been cleared for that sort of information.

Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are.

It's only a secret from you. I don't mind giving out some personal
information to people I like and respect. What an asshat you are. GFY


Responding to a question about what your wife did for a living before
she retired is not giving out personal information, but, of course, you
are too stupid to understand that.

No, unlike you he is smart enough not to provide you with information
you don't need. You don't have a "need to know".


Your moron buddy is obsessed with my wife. It's okay with me if his wife
worked as a Walmart cashier or whatever, and saying that is not
revealing any personal information.

You are the one who has provided detailed information about your spouse
over the years. "Justan" has been smart enough to keep his private life
to himself. I'll help you out though without letting the cat out of the
bag ... his spouse is a very accomplished person. Even you would be
impressed.

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 08:13:07 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/8/2016 10:11 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/8/16 8:43 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 9:29 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze
wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why
would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you
could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are
the
ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much faster
tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools and the
navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a
joke
to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right direction
and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to learn
other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is
"experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things
with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests
itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of
student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think
"trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads
to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract
thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You aren't
going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.

You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of great
accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold?


Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a
home. Putting it simply, you are a loser
Krauster.



Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold?
You haven't been cleared for that sort of information.

Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are.

It's only a secret from you. I don't mind giving out some personal
information to people I like and respect. What an asshat you are. GFY


Responding to a question about what your wife did for a living before
she retired is not giving out personal information, but, of course, you
are too stupid to understand that.

No, unlike you he is smart enough not to provide you with information
you don't need. You don't have a "need to know".


I have often offered to provide Harry with any information he needs. He's yet to provide his list.

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/9/16 8:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/8/2016 10:11 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/8/16 8:43 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 9:29 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math
and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why
would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you
could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are
the
ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much
faster
tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools
and the
navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a
joke
to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right
direction
and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to
learn
other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is
"experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things
with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests
itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of
student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think
"trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads
to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract
thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to
make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You
aren't
going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.

You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of
great
accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold?


Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a
home. Putting it simply, you are a loser
Krauster.



Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold?
You haven't been cleared for that sort of information.

Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are.

It's only a secret from you. I don't mind giving out some personal
information to people I like and respect. What an asshat you are. GFY


Responding to a question about what your wife did for a living before
she retired is not giving out personal information, but, of course, you
are too stupid to understand that.

No, unlike you he is smart enough not to provide you with information
you don't need. You don't have a "need to know".


Your moron buddy is obsessed with my wife. It's okay with me if his
wife worked as a Walmart cashier or whatever, and saying that is not
revealing any personal information.

Your behavior here sent someone on the hunt for your personal
information a while ago. It might have been Kevin when you weren't pals
- I don't remember. The public information revealed your address and
the name of the owner of the house you haunt. You took that path by
****ing off Kevin - or someone else.

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On Fri, 9 Sep 2016 21:03:08 -0400, Alex wrote:

Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/9/16 8:13 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/8/2016 10:11 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/8/16 8:43 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 9:29 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:18 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 6:58 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 6:47 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 6:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/7/2016 11:55 AM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 11:43 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 10:51:54 -0400, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 9/7/16 10:50 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 06:33:36 -0400, Keyser Soze

wrote:

On 9/6/16 11:43 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 23:01:28 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 21:49:23 -0400, Keyser Söze

wrote:

wrote:

Why would I want Navy electronics training?

I know, it is a science, you are an artist.


I took and got A's in a good number of university math
and
science classes.
As I have and had no interest in being in the navy, why
would I
want navy
electronics training?

I suppose if you want to spend 2 years learning what you
could
learn
in 6 weeks, go for it.


Ahh. Your anti-intellectual nonsense

Why is learning things faster anti intellectual?
It seems to me they dumb down schools to the lowest common
denominator
and call it being intellectual. How is that right?
It is funny that the only schools who operate that way are
the
ones
that charge you by the hour so it is not all that amazing.
Schools run by people who have an interest in teaching you
quickly, go
much faster with classes 7 or 8 hours a day at a much
faster
tempo
and
if you can't keep up, you get kicked out.
Personally I prefer going fast. Even the IBM schools
and the
navy
school was not really challenging me. Public school was a
joke
to me
and my private school was barely holding my attention.
Give me the books and a little nudge in the right
direction
and I
will
ace your test.



Fortunately, for the good of mankind, there are ways to
learn
other
than
by rote.

Who said anything about "rote". The best learning is
"experience" and
you do not get that in school . . .

Sure you do. Well, maybe not in the courses you took.

I understand the university will teach you plenty of things
with no
practical purpose. It is reflected in the unemployment and
underemployment rate of college graduates. That manifests
itself in
the miserable rate that the trillion plus dollars worth of
student
loans are being repaid.


Hehehe. Your anti-intellectualism is just hysterical. You think
"trade
school" is the answer for everyone. Your sort of rigidity leads
to a
dumbed-down nation full of worker drones incapable of abstract
thinking
and supportive of, oh, Donald Trump.

Your colleges are producing thinkers. We need a few doers to
make
something happen. Think and dream all you want Krause. You
aren't
going
anywhere without assistance from Dr Dr.

You seem to be fixated on my wife, who is, indeed, a woman of
great
accomplishment. What sort of job did Mrs. OldFart hold?


Your wife is the only thing between you and a cardboard box for a
home. Putting it simply, you are a loser
Krauster.



Funny stuff, bozo. So, what sort of job did Mrs. Oldfart hold?
You haven't been cleared for that sort of information.

Right, because it's a BIG secret. What a laugh you are.

It's only a secret from you. I don't mind giving out some personal
information to people I like and respect. What an asshat you are. GFY


Responding to a question about what your wife did for a living before
she retired is not giving out personal information, but, of course, you
are too stupid to understand that.

No, unlike you he is smart enough not to provide you with information
you don't need. You don't have a "need to know".


Your moron buddy is obsessed with my wife. It's okay with me if his
wife worked as a Walmart cashier or whatever, and saying that is not
revealing any personal information.

Your behavior here sent someone on the hunt for your personal
information a while ago. It might have been Kevin when you weren't pals
- I don't remember. The public information revealed your address and
the name of the owner of the house you haunt. You took that path by
****ing off Kevin - or someone else.

Gosh, until his address got published and the satellite shot showed differently, he did a lot of
bragging about his 'Maryland Red Barn' and his quarter mile driveway.

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:08:03 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:


Your behavior here sent someone on the hunt for your personal
information a while ago. It might have been Kevin when you weren't pals
- I don't remember. The public information revealed your address and
the name of the owner of the house you haunt. You took that path by
****ing off Kevin - or someone else.

Gosh, until his address got published and the satellite shot showed differently, he did a lot of
bragging about his 'Maryland Red Barn' and his quarter mile driveway.

===

Not to mention the mythical Hatteras sport fish with the corinthian
leather seats.

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On Saturday, September 10, 2016 at 9:42:13 AM UTC-7, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:08:03 -0400, Poquito Loco
wrote:


Your behavior here sent someone on the hunt for your personal
information a while ago. It might have been Kevin when you weren't pals
- I don't remember. The public information revealed your address and
the name of the owner of the house you haunt. You took that path by
****ing off Kevin - or someone else.

Gosh, until his address got published and the satellite shot showed differently, he did a lot of
bragging about his 'Maryland Red Barn' and his quarter mile driveway.

===

Not to mention the mythical Hatteras sport fish with the corinthian
leather seats.

Remember the bragging and bald faced lie about building the deck himself? Then come to find out a contractor did the job when he and the Dr wife posted a rave review about what a nice job they did on their website.

I'm still in awe over the dumb pic he took of the door install with his reflection in the mirror. Legend in his own mind.

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 9:32:00 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:43 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 8:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/6/2016 8:00 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/6/16 7:29 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.



The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror?


You'd be surprised.


Not if you got in...

The problem with your accusations is that you have no idea what you are
talking about. The Navy has many jobs ... called "ratings" ... and each
one has a minimum score required (along with other specific
requirements), to attend the rating's particular school(s). Some
require enlistments beyond the typical 4 years due to the length of the
schools and the educational investment the government makes. Without
giving away any unnecessary details, the rating and schools "Justan"
attended required one of the highest qualifying scores. You may be
good at sentence structure, prepositional phrases and teaching bonehead
English but it's highly unlikely you would have qualified for the Navy
schools he attended.




Oh, yeah, because the "details" from 50 years ago are significant today.
I get it.


Nothing stands still like the English language.
Once you master
it, it's yours for life. That holds true for most of the union
trades as well. Rules and standards change a bit but once a brick
stacker always a brick stacker. Technology is a different story.
You can't stagnate like an English proffessor and expect to move
along or even keep a job. So you're right. You also proved that a
pedestrian skill set like you have is not that hard to come by
and is of little value, especially for bragging rights.


What the hell would you know about intellectual pursuits? Answer?
Nothing. And you don't seem to know much about the skilled trades,
either. In fact, there's little evidence here you know much about anything.

Harry, my son knows a lot about the "skilled trades" He bought his Carpenters union card and went to work the next week building scaffolding in power plants at the rate of $28-32 bucks an hr. pplus overtime, plus per dium.(about a hundred a day whether he can spend it or not)

Besides his card, the only thing else he has invested is a lunch bucket and a couple special wrenches. And when he's laid off he does a lot of fishing and gets $400.00 a week. Yes, he knows a lot about the "skilled trades"

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On 9/11/16 3:42 PM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 9:32:00 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:43 AM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/7/16 8:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/6/2016 8:00 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/6/16 7:29 PM, justan wrote:
Keyser Soze Wrote in message:
On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 17:07:41 -0400 (EDT), justan wrote:

Leaving students bewildered and stranded. Anyone know more about
this government action against education?

===

The problem is that studens were misled about their employment
opportunities and then defaulted on their government backed student
loans when they couldn't get jobs. The ITT training wasn't quite as
rigorous as the US Navy's and neither were their admission standards.



The Navy has admission standards? Beyond fogging a mirror?


You'd be surprised.


Not if you got in...

The problem with your accusations is that you have no idea what you are
talking about. The Navy has many jobs ... called "ratings" ... and each
one has a minimum score required (along with other specific
requirements), to attend the rating's particular school(s). Some
require enlistments beyond the typical 4 years due to the length of the
schools and the educational investment the government makes. Without
giving away any unnecessary details, the rating and schools "Justan"
attended required one of the highest qualifying scores. You may be
good at sentence structure, prepositional phrases and teaching bonehead
English but it's highly unlikely you would have qualified for the Navy
schools he attended.




Oh, yeah, because the "details" from 50 years ago are significant today.
I get it.


Nothing stands still like the English language.
Once you master
it, it's yours for life. That holds true for most of the union
trades as well. Rules and standards change a bit but once a brick
stacker always a brick stacker. Technology is a different story.
You can't stagnate like an English proffessor and expect to move
along or even keep a job. So you're right. You also proved that a
pedestrian skill set like you have is not that hard to come by
and is of little value, especially for bragging rights.


What the hell would you know about intellectual pursuits? Answer?
Nothing. And you don't seem to know much about the skilled trades,
either. In fact, there's little evidence here you know much about anything.

Harry, my son knows a lot about the "skilled trades" He bought his Carpenters union card and went to work the next week building scaffolding in power plants at the rate of $28-32 bucks an hr. pplus overtime, plus per dium.(about a hundred a day whether he can spend it or not)

Besides his card, the only thing else he has invested is a lunch bucket and a couple special wrenches. And when he's laid off he does a lot of fishing and gets $400.00 a week. Yes, he knows a lot about the "skilled trades"


Are you making some sort of universal truth about your son's experience?

Government shuts down ITT Tech
 

On 9/11/16 3:42 PM, Tim wrote:
On Wednesday, September 7, 2016 at 9:32:00 AM UTC-5, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/7/16 9:43 AM, justan wrote:
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On 9/7/16 8:40 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/6/2016 8:00 PM, Keyser Soze wrote:
On 9/6/16 7:29 PM, justan wrote:
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On 9/6/16 5:44 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
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Are you making some sort of universal truth about your son's experience?
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Are you trying to make the unionized laborer part of an elitist group?