On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 16:18:51 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

The John flushes....

"It was your comment to be sure and use 2 stroke oil that got Donnie started on the whole thing. At
the time you thought my Yamaha was a 2 stroke."

Quit weaseling out and blaming it on Greg.
As I remember it, you were asking advice on winterizing your Yamaha outboard.

That's 'cause your memory sucks!

What would two or four stroke oil have to do with winterizing?

The winterizing question, asked by my Dutch friend, was why WD-40 wouldn't work as an engine fogger.
I expect it would do a fine job over a three or four month winter.

Poquito Loco
- show quoted text -
"That's 'cause your memory sucks!

What would two or four stroke oil have to do with winterizing?

The winterizing question, asked by my Dutch friend, was why WD-40 wouldn't work as an engine fogger.
I expect it would do a fine job over a three or four month winter."


Say what!
I can't believe y'all said that. Anyone with half a working brain knows that you change the 4 stroke engine oil when winterizing. Y'all better get Mercury's maintenance manual.....or better yet, find a competent person to handle your maintenance/winterizing.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:37:15 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Poquito Loco
- show quoted text -
"That's 'cause your memory sucks!

What would two or four stroke oil have to do with winterizing?

The winterizing question, asked by my Dutch friend, was why WD-40 wouldn't work as an engine fogger.
I expect it would do a fine job over a three or four month winter."


Say what!
I can't believe y'all said that. Anyone with half a working brain knows that you change the 4 stroke engine oil when winterizing. Y'all better get Mercury's maintenance manual.....or better yet, find a competent person to handle your maintenance/winterizing.

Why were you whining about your son drinking all your beer again?

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:39:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 12:05:21 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/18/16 12:25 PM, Tim wrote:
Btw John. I'm sure you won't have any problems, but I have a complete engine and lower 165 drive from a salvage part-out boat.

If you need anything that I can supply you with, it's yours for the asking ( and shipping, lol!)



Don't forget the WD-40 for winterizing!

Why not. it works. It is a lubricant. I know several people in my area who have used it for years on two and 4 stroke engines with no problems.

There is not really much oil in WD40. It is mostly solvents

I myself have never fogged an engine, only used fuel stabilizer. My small boat with the 3.o sat for almost 2 years. I filled it with premium gasoline, put a battery in it, it cranked over a bit. and fired.

Engine never stuck.
As I said, winterizing is mostly a 2 stroke thing beyond the fuel
issues

Honestly, I never have understood the idea of 'fogging' for an engine in short term (less than 1 year) storage anyhow.

You do it to 2 strokes to give it the initial lubrication until the
system pumps enough fuel oil mix to oil everything up. It is about the
same theory as spinning up the oil pump with a drill on a newly built
engine before you crank it.

True North wrote:
Poquito Loco
- show quoted text -
"That's 'cause your memory sucks!

What would two or four stroke oil have to do with winterizing?

The winterizing question, asked by my Dutch friend, was why WD-40
wouldn't work as an engine fogger.
I expect it would do a fine job over a three or four month winter."


Say what!
I can't believe y'all said that. Anyone with half a working brain knows
that you change the 4 stroke engine oil when winterizing. Y'all better
get Mercury's maintenance manual.....or better yet, find a competent
person to handle your maintenance/winterizing.


Maybe depends on how much you ran the motor. I have a V8 and change the oil
yearly. Sometimes in the fall and sometimes in the spring. But we rarely
have deep freeze winter.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 19:59:18 -0500, Califbill wrote:

True North wrote:
Poquito Loco
- show quoted text -
"That's 'cause your memory sucks!

What would two or four stroke oil have to do with winterizing?

The winterizing question, asked by my Dutch friend, was why WD-40
wouldn't work as an engine fogger.
I expect it would do a fine job over a three or four month winter."


Say what!
I can't believe y'all said that. Anyone with half a working brain knows
that you change the 4 stroke engine oil when winterizing. Y'all better
get Mercury's maintenance manual.....or better yet, find a competent
person to handle your maintenance/winterizing.


Maybe depends on how much you ran the motor. I have a V8 and change the oil
yearly. Sometimes in the fall and sometimes in the spring. But we rarely
have deep freeze winter.

I was putting only about ten-twelve hours a year on that boat. That's why I got rid of it. Too damn
costly, especially depreciation, insurance, and storage.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:37:15 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I can't believe y'all said that. Anyone with half a working brain knows that you change the 4 stroke engine oil when winterizing. Y'all better get Mercury's maintenance manual.....or better yet, find a competent person to handle your maintenance/winterizing.

There are actually 2 schools of thought on that. One says store it
with the oil that was in it and change it in the spring. The other
says store it with new oil but you have the problem that the winter
moisture is now in your new oil. I suppose a belt and suspenders guy
would change it twice.
Fortunately "winterizing" here means my wife puts a jacket on the
boat. I am still in my shorts and T shirt.
I end up changing my oil 3 times a year anyway just for hours.

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:37:15 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I can't believe y'all said that. Anyone with half a working brain knows
that you change the 4 stroke engine oil when winterizing. Y'all better
get Mercury's maintenance manual.....or better yet, find a competent
person to handle your maintenance/winterizing.

There are actually 2 schools of thought on that. One says store it
with the oil that was in it and change it in the spring. The other
says store it with new oil but you have the problem that the winter
moisture is now in your new oil. I suppose a belt and suspenders guy
would change it twice.
Fortunately "winterizing" here means my wife puts a jacket on the
boat. I am still in my shorts and T shirt.
I end up changing my oil 3 times a year anyway just for hours.


I also run my boat in the winter. Colder than yours, but still with a coat
is fine.

On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 21:16:31 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 17:37:15 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:

I can't believe y'all said that. Anyone with half a working brain knows
that you change the 4 stroke engine oil when winterizing. Y'all better
get Mercury's maintenance manual.....or better yet, find a competent
person to handle your maintenance/winterizing.

There are actually 2 schools of thought on that. One says store it
with the oil that was in it and change it in the spring. The other
says store it with new oil but you have the problem that the winter
moisture is now in your new oil. I suppose a belt and suspenders guy
would change it twice.
Fortunately "winterizing" here means my wife puts a jacket on the
boat. I am still in my shorts and T shirt.
I end up changing my oil 3 times a year anyway just for hours.


I also run my boat in the winter. Colder than yours, but still with a coat
is fine.

If it isn't over 75, my wife won't go. That is not very often here in
the afternoon, even in the winter.

On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 7:42:53 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Mon, 18 Jul 2016 15:39:20 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Monday, July 18, 2016 at 12:05:21 PM UTC-5, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 7/18/16 12:25 PM, Tim wrote:
Btw John. I'm sure you won't have any problems, but I have a complete engine and lower 165 drive from a salvage part-out boat.

If you need anything that I can supply you with, it's yours for the asking ( and shipping, lol!)



Don't forget the WD-40 for winterizing!

Why not. it works. It is a lubricant. I know several people in my area who have used it for years on two and 4 stroke engines with no problems.

There is not really much oil in WD40. It is mostly solvents

I myself have never fogged an engine, only used fuel stabilizer. My small boat with the 3.o sat for almost 2 years. I filled it with premium gasoline, put a battery in it, it cranked over a bit. and fired.

Engine never stuck.
As I said, winterizing is mostly a 2 stroke thing beyond the fuel
issues

Honestly, I never have understood the idea of 'fogging' for an engine in short term (less than 1 year) storage anyhow.

You do it to 2 strokes to give it the initial lubrication until the
system pumps enough fuel oil mix to oil everything up. It is about the
same theory as spinning up the oil pump with a drill on a newly built
engine before you crank it.

I know the oil content in wd40 is really thin, but there is a silicone property to it, which is to prevent rust and cling to metal like...cylinder walls.

Concerning starting a 2 stroke after a long winters nap. We would initially shoot regular pre-mix fuel directly into the carbs, after they were primed..

For good, bad, or ugly, it worked.