On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:39:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/z4tca8z

My new Smith & Wesson target pistol with sight rail and red dot
installed, and suppressor in its little bag, and a couple hundred rounds
of CCI Standard Velocity .22LR ammo. I've been playing around with the
"proper" spot on the rail for the red dot.

I have thought about getting a red dot or similar but I am just not
sure why. Most of my pistol shooting at this point in my life is just
"front sight", basically just wanting to be able to hit something
"saucer" sized at 7 yards instinctively without really aiming.
I fire from retention and, if the range is OK with it, double tap.
I have rolled a running rat with my frontier scout, shooting shot.
(crossing shot, first round)
That is more like a station 4 skeet shot.

On 6/22/16 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:39:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/z4tca8z

My new Smith & Wesson target pistol with sight rail and red dot
installed, and suppressor in its little bag, and a couple hundred rounds
of CCI Standard Velocity .22LR ammo. I've been playing around with the
"proper" spot on the rail for the red dot.

I have thought about getting a red dot or similar but I am just not
sure why. Most of my pistol shooting at this point in my life is just
"front sight", basically just wanting to be able to hit something
"saucer" sized at 7 yards instinctively without really aiming.
I fire from retention and, if the range is OK with it, double tap.
I have rolled a running rat with my frontier scout, shooting shot.
(crossing shot, first round)
That is more like a station 4 skeet shot.


The Bushnell TRS-25 Red Dot I have works nicely and goes on sale a lot
during the year, sometimes for around $70. If I do my job with the red
dot, I can put 10 rounds into a coffee cup sized circle at 25 yards
while using a traditional two-hand stance with my now "departed" Ruger
Mark III. I haven't been to the outdoor range with the new pistol
yet...but I expect it will shoot at least as well. The trigger on it is
very nice. I've only shot it at the indoor 25 yard range, and that was
just to break it in a little.

That's a tandemkross charging ring on the back of the slide, about the
only accessory to the pistol itself I'll probably add.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:52:58 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/22/16 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:39:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/z4tca8z

My new Smith & Wesson target pistol with sight rail and red dot
installed, and suppressor in its little bag, and a couple hundred rounds
of CCI Standard Velocity .22LR ammo. I've been playing around with the
"proper" spot on the rail for the red dot.

I have thought about getting a red dot or similar but I am just not
sure why. Most of my pistol shooting at this point in my life is just
"front sight", basically just wanting to be able to hit something
"saucer" sized at 7 yards instinctively without really aiming.
I fire from retention and, if the range is OK with it, double tap.
I have rolled a running rat with my frontier scout, shooting shot.
(crossing shot, first round)
That is more like a station 4 skeet shot.


The Bushnell TRS-25 Red Dot I have works nicely and goes on sale a lot
during the year, sometimes for around $70. If I do my job with the red
dot, I can put 10 rounds into a coffee cup sized circle at 25 yards
while using a traditional two-hand stance with my now "departed" Ruger
Mark III. I haven't been to the outdoor range with the new pistol
yet...but I expect it will shoot at least as well. The trigger on it is
very nice. I've only shot it at the indoor 25 yard range, and that was
just to break it in a little.

That's a tandemkross charging ring on the back of the slide, about the
only accessory to the pistol itself I'll probably add.

If you were semi-believable, you'd be a great shot.

On 6/22/16 12:28 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:52:58 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/22/16 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:39:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/z4tca8z

My new Smith & Wesson target pistol with sight rail and red dot
installed, and suppressor in its little bag, and a couple hundred rounds
of CCI Standard Velocity .22LR ammo. I've been playing around with the
"proper" spot on the rail for the red dot.

I have thought about getting a red dot or similar but I am just not
sure why. Most of my pistol shooting at this point in my life is just
"front sight", basically just wanting to be able to hit something
"saucer" sized at 7 yards instinctively without really aiming.
I fire from retention and, if the range is OK with it, double tap.
I have rolled a running rat with my frontier scout, shooting shot.
(crossing shot, first round)
That is more like a station 4 skeet shot.


The Bushnell TRS-25 Red Dot I have works nicely and goes on sale a lot
during the year, sometimes for around $70. If I do my job with the red
dot, I can put 10 rounds into a coffee cup sized circle at 25 yards
while using a traditional two-hand stance with my now "departed" Ruger
Mark III. I haven't been to the outdoor range with the new pistol
yet...but I expect it will shoot at least as well. The trigger on it is
very nice. I've only shot it at the indoor 25 yard range, and that was
just to break it in a little.

That's a tandemkross charging ring on the back of the slide, about the
only accessory to the pistol itself I'll probably add.

If you were semi-believable, you'd be a great shot.

A great shot, like one of my buddies, can shoot offhand and put 10
inside a circle the size of a quarter. I'm too old to achieve that
level, but I still see well and can hold the pistol steady.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 11:52:58 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/22/16 11:39 AM, wrote:
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 14:39:11 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

http://tinyurl.com/z4tca8z

My new Smith & Wesson target pistol with sight rail and red dot
installed, and suppressor in its little bag, and a couple hundred rounds
of CCI Standard Velocity .22LR ammo. I've been playing around with the
"proper" spot on the rail for the red dot.

I have thought about getting a red dot or similar but I am just not
sure why. Most of my pistol shooting at this point in my life is just
"front sight", basically just wanting to be able to hit something
"saucer" sized at 7 yards instinctively without really aiming.
I fire from retention and, if the range is OK with it, double tap.
I have rolled a running rat with my frontier scout, shooting shot.
(crossing shot, first round)
That is more like a station 4 skeet shot.


The Bushnell TRS-25 Red Dot I have works nicely and goes on sale a lot
during the year, sometimes for around $70. If I do my job with the red
dot, I can put 10 rounds into a coffee cup sized circle at 25 yards
while using a traditional two-hand stance with my now "departed" Ruger
Mark III. I haven't been to the outdoor range with the new pistol
yet...but I expect it will shoot at least as well. The trigger on it is
very nice. I've only shot it at the indoor 25 yard range, and that was
just to break it in a little.

That's a tandemkross charging ring on the back of the slide, about the
only accessory to the pistol itself I'll probably add.

My primary interest is defense at this point and that will be inside 7
yards. It will also be a situation where pinpoint accuracy is not as
important as getting rounds on target as fast as you can from the
retention position.
I typically train, hammer down, shooting the first round DA and the
second round SA with my Ruger p90. I start at retention, extend and
fire, starting at different angles from the target with different
targets at different heights.
My goal is to be able to hit what I am looking at without really
aiming. I just want the muscle memory combined with my line of sight
It is similar to spot shooting skeet (as opposed to "lead shooting")
In a defense situation, a slow fire aimed shot will be much harder to
defend in court and if you are more than 20' away, it will be very
hard to defend.

In article ,
says...


My primary interest is defense at this point and that will be inside 7
yards. It will also be a situation where pinpoint accuracy is not as
important as getting rounds on target as fast as you can from the
retention position.

A case of paranoia there. Pretty common among gun nuts.

On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 13:09:22 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


My primary interest is defense at this point and that will be inside 7
yards. It will also be a situation where pinpoint accuracy is not as
important as getting rounds on target as fast as you can from the
retention position.

A case of paranoia there. Pretty common among gun nuts.

Is the consideration of defense 'paranoia' in your opinion?

Poquito Loco
- show quoted text -
"Is the consideration of defense 'paranoia' in your opinion?"

I don't know what y'all are so afraid of Johnny.
I'd hate to live in an area where I felt the need for firearms to protect my ass day in and day out.

On 6/22/16 3:15 PM, True North wrote:
Poquito Loco
- show quoted text -
"Is the consideration of defense 'paranoia' in your opinion?"

I don't know what y'all are so afraid of Johnny.
I'd hate to live in an area where I felt the need for firearms to protect my ass day in and day out.



Johnny the Racist lives in fear...he's afraid some darker skinned guy,
perhaps a black or Latino, will take umbrage over the horrific
statements he's made about people of color or people whose ethnicity is
not "old white man." Perhaps OldFartJim of Florida will come to his
defense.

True North wrote:
Poquito Loco
- show quoted text -
"Is the consideration of defense 'paranoia' in your opinion?"

I don't know what y'all are so afraid of Johnny.
I'd hate to live in an area where I felt the need for firearms to protect
my ass day in and day out.


You do live in a high crime city.