On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/22/16 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:17:43 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

A case of paranoia there. Pretty common among gun nuts.

Do you carry a spare tire in your car? Is that paranoia too?



How many flat tires/blow-outs have you had in your driving life?

Since the steel belted radial tire? A couple. Considering I was
driving 50,000 miles a year, it was a very rare to almost non-existent
event in the last 45 years, yet I still carried a spare, a jack and a
decent lug wrench. I guess I was paranoid about that too.
The EPA says that every extra 100 pounds you add to a car reduces
efficiency 1-2% so it is safe to say the 50 pounds or so you have with
the "doughnut" tire, jack and such costs you about 1% so it is not
unreasonable to say you wasted 25 gallons of gas a year, just on your
paranoia. (assuming the tire and jack were free)

At a certain point my $350 Ruger and a few boxes of ammo are a
bargain. ;-)



That's the whole point. You carry a spare tire because you need to,
because you've had a couple of flats or blowouts over the years. It
isn't paranoia to carry a spare and a jack.

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

Keyser Söze Wrote in message:
On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/22/16 11:06 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:17:43 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

A case of paranoia there. Pretty common among gun nuts.

Do you carry a spare tire in your car? Is that paranoia too?



How many flat tires/blow-outs have you had in your driving life?

Since the steel belted radial tire? A couple. Considering I was
driving 50,000 miles a year, it was a very rare to almost non-existent
event in the last 45 years, yet I still carried a spare, a jack and a
decent lug wrench. I guess I was paranoid about that too.
The EPA says that every extra 100 pounds you add to a car reduces
efficiency 1-2% so it is safe to say the 50 pounds or so you have with
the "doughnut" tire, jack and such costs you about 1% so it is not
unreasonable to say you wasted 25 gallons of gas a year, just on your
paranoia. (assuming the tire and jack were free)

At a certain point my $350 Ruger and a few boxes of ammo are a
bargain. ;-)



That's the whole point. You carry a spare tire because you need to,
because you've had a couple of flats or blowouts over the years. It
isn't paranoia to carry a spare and a jack.

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

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On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:25:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

You seem to be fairly well armed and you have made no secret of the
fact that you would use deadly force if it was necessary so you do not
really have a stand here.

BAO trusts the police to respond before anything bad can happen to
him. I hope he is right but they usually just show up in time to take
a report and, maybe, call the coroner. The number of these crimes that
are actually closed is frighteningly small.

On 6/23/16 1:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:25:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

You seem to be fairly well armed and you have made no secret of the
fact that you would use deadly force if it was necessary so you do not
really have a stand here.

BAO trusts the police to respond before anything bad can happen to
him. I hope he is right but they usually just show up in time to take
a report and, maybe, call the coroner. The number of these crimes that
are actually closed is frighteningly small.


Ahh, but my primary purpose in having a few firearms is to participate
in target shooting. At one point, there were two morons here who
threatened physical violence, so I "gunned up" and got a carry permit,
but those morons -the crazy guy from the Pacific Rim who lived in Canada
and nutball Scotty from Connecticut- seem to have disappeared.

If we had a home invasion here and we somehow weren't warned by the
security system, I probably could get to a sidearm or shotgun in time to
defend us. If thugs trip the property lights at night or the perimeter
alarms, there's no question I'd have time to grab a firearm. I certainly
wouldn't hesitate to fire into the center of body mass of a home
invader. My "trusty" S&W revolver would do the job, and I wouldn't need
more than six rounds.

wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:25:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

You seem to be fairly well armed and you have made no secret of the
fact that you would use deadly force if it was necessary so you do not
really have a stand here.

BAO trusts the police to respond before anything bad can happen to
him. I hope he is right but they usually just show up in time to take
a report and, maybe, call the coroner. The number of these crimes that
are actually closed is frighteningly small.


Can not get a CCW license here. But years ago, in the 1970's I kept one on
the seat of the car. Worked midnight to 8 fixing computers. And 4 of the
Zebra Killings were within 6 blocks of my office. Parked under the light
at the entrance and checked the surroundings before exiting.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:58:30 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/23/16 1:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:25:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

You seem to be fairly well armed and you have made no secret of the
fact that you would use deadly force if it was necessary so you do not
really have a stand here.

BAO trusts the police to respond before anything bad can happen to
him. I hope he is right but they usually just show up in time to take
a report and, maybe, call the coroner. The number of these crimes that
are actually closed is frighteningly small.


Ahh, but my primary purpose in having a few firearms is to participate
in target shooting. At one point, there were two morons here who
threatened physical violence, so I "gunned up" and got a carry permit,
but those morons -the crazy guy from the Pacific Rim who lived in Canada
and nutball Scotty from Connecticut- seem to have disappeared.

If we had a home invasion here and we somehow weren't warned by the
security system, I probably could get to a sidearm or shotgun in time to
defend us. If thugs trip the property lights at night or the perimeter
alarms, there's no question I'd have time to grab a firearm. I certainly
wouldn't hesitate to fire into the center of body mass of a home
invader. My "trusty" S&W revolver would do the job, and I wouldn't need
more than six rounds.

Given what you just said, BAO would call you either paranoid or a gun nut, or both.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:58:30 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 1:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:25:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

You seem to be fairly well armed and you have made no secret of the
fact that you would use deadly force if it was necessary so you do not
really have a stand here.

BAO trusts the police to respond before anything bad can happen to
him. I hope he is right but they usually just show up in time to take
a report and, maybe, call the coroner. The number of these crimes that
are actually closed is frighteningly small.


Ahh, but my primary purpose in having a few firearms is to participate
in target shooting. At one point, there were two morons here who
threatened physical violence, so I "gunned up" and got a carry permit,
but those morons -the crazy guy from the Pacific Rim who lived in Canada
and nutball Scotty from Connecticut- seem to have disappeared.

If we had a home invasion here and we somehow weren't warned by the
security system, I probably could get to a sidearm or shotgun in time to
defend us. If thugs trip the property lights at night or the perimeter
alarms, there's no question I'd have time to grab a firearm. I certainly
wouldn't hesitate to fire into the center of body mass of a home
invader. My "trusty" S&W revolver would do the job, and I wouldn't need
more than six rounds.

That is why I have a big dog. If the bad guy gets in and the dog does
not wake me up, I am shooting the dog first ;-)

I am really in a pretty safe place but there is plenty of stuff going
on a short car ride away. I am sure you feel the same way.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/PG%20crime%20map.jpg

If I am going to take armed self defense seriously, I think I need to
train. Otherwise I would not have the gun in the first place. The only
thing worse than being unarmed is to make a mistake and arm your
attacker. Hence I learned retention techniques and train from that
position. Most of the crap you see on TV is what you hope the bad guy
will do, so you can take his gun away.

On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:11:18 -0500, Califbill
wrote:

wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:25:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

You seem to be fairly well armed and you have made no secret of the
fact that you would use deadly force if it was necessary so you do not
really have a stand here.

BAO trusts the police to respond before anything bad can happen to
him. I hope he is right but they usually just show up in time to take
a report and, maybe, call the coroner. The number of these crimes that
are actually closed is frighteningly small.


Can not get a CCW license here. But years ago, in the 1970's I kept one on
the seat of the car. Worked midnight to 8 fixing computers. And 4 of the
Zebra Killings were within 6 blocks of my office. Parked under the light
at the entrance and checked the surroundings before exiting.

I kept my 97 winchester between the seat and the console through most
of the late 60s and early 70s.
To answer Harry's question, I know that one time, simply racking the
action cleared an angry mob away from my car and gave me a chance to
drive out of a spot that exploded into violence shortly after I left.
("Souf Ese" DC, wrong color at the wrong time)

On 6/23/16 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:58:30 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 1:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:25:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

You seem to be fairly well armed and you have made no secret of the
fact that you would use deadly force if it was necessary so you do not
really have a stand here.

BAO trusts the police to respond before anything bad can happen to
him. I hope he is right but they usually just show up in time to take
a report and, maybe, call the coroner. The number of these crimes that
are actually closed is frighteningly small.


Ahh, but my primary purpose in having a few firearms is to participate
in target shooting. At one point, there were two morons here who
threatened physical violence, so I "gunned up" and got a carry permit,
but those morons -the crazy guy from the Pacific Rim who lived in Canada
and nutball Scotty from Connecticut- seem to have disappeared.

If we had a home invasion here and we somehow weren't warned by the
security system, I probably could get to a sidearm or shotgun in time to
defend us. If thugs trip the property lights at night or the perimeter
alarms, there's no question I'd have time to grab a firearm. I certainly
wouldn't hesitate to fire into the center of body mass of a home
invader. My "trusty" S&W revolver would do the job, and I wouldn't need
more than six rounds.

That is why I have a big dog. If the bad guy gets in and the dog does
not wake me up, I am shooting the dog first ;-)

I am really in a pretty safe place but there is plenty of stuff going
on a short car ride away. I am sure you feel the same way.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/PG%20crime%20map.jpg

If I am going to take armed self defense seriously, I think I need to
train. Otherwise I would not have the gun in the first place. The only
thing worse than being unarmed is to make a mistake and arm your
attacker. Hence I learned retention techniques and train from that
position. Most of the crap you see on TV is what you hope the bad guy
will do, so you can take his gun away.





We don't have a big crime problem in our county. We also have two cops
and a secret service agent living in our little subdivision, and the
cops park their patrol cars in their driveways.

On 6/23/16 2:14 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:58:30 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 6/23/16 1:35 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 10:25:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 6/23/16 9:49 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:29:33 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

How many times have you *had* to use a firearm to defend yourself over
the same period of time?

A couple.


Oh, well. Go for it.

You seem to be fairly well armed and you have made no secret of the
fact that you would use deadly force if it was necessary so you do not
really have a stand here.

BAO trusts the police to respond before anything bad can happen to
him. I hope he is right but they usually just show up in time to take
a report and, maybe, call the coroner. The number of these crimes that
are actually closed is frighteningly small.


Ahh, but my primary purpose in having a few firearms is to participate
in target shooting. At one point, there were two morons here who
threatened physical violence, so I "gunned up" and got a carry permit,
but those morons -the crazy guy from the Pacific Rim who lived in Canada
and nutball Scotty from Connecticut- seem to have disappeared.

If we had a home invasion here and we somehow weren't warned by the
security system, I probably could get to a sidearm or shotgun in time to
defend us. If thugs trip the property lights at night or the perimeter
alarms, there's no question I'd have time to grab a firearm. I certainly
wouldn't hesitate to fire into the center of body mass of a home
invader. My "trusty" S&W revolver would do the job, and I wouldn't need
more than six rounds.

Given what you just said, BAO would call you either paranoid or a gun nut, or both.


I'll keep you in mind the next time I want a comment from a racist.