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On 5/24/2016 9:41 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11 I don't think its illegal, its just not politically correct. If memory serves, I think most of the legal issues come from the angle of racism. If the vast majority of crime in an area is being committed by Purples, is it reasonable for an officer to be more suspicious of a Purple man acting suspiciously than a Green man? |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote: Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11 That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling. Pure statistics make that be something like; poor black people poor latinos poor white people substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich" people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a generic black guy. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:11:18 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:
On 5/24/2016 9:41 AM, Justan Olphart wrote: Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11 I don't think its illegal, its just not politically correct. If memory serves, I think most of the legal issues come from the angle of racism. If the vast majority of crime in an area is being committed by Purples, is it reasonable for an officer to be more suspicious of a Purple man acting suspiciously than a Green man? Nicely put. Maybe Chicago police just need some purple tinted glasses. Given what Dr. Wernick says, "... the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way, like race, gender, ethnicity and geography," I wonder why it might not be 'politically correct'. -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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On 5/24/2016 1:45 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:35:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11 That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling. Pure statistics make that be something like; poor black people poor latinos poor white people substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich" people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a generic black guy. Dr. Wernick says the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way, like race, gender, ethnicity and geography. Economic profiling is surely not being called 'racist', even by liberals. Is it? Depends on what the profiling is for... and who is doing the profiling. If a conservative white person says that low-income Black neighborhoods tend to have a higher crime rate, that will be called racist. If a liberal white person says that blacks are incapable of properly educating themselves or holding down a family-sustaining job and therefor turn to crime, that is safe. |
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On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:34:50 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:
On 5/24/2016 1:45 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:35:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11 That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling. Pure statistics make that be something like; poor black people poor latinos poor white people substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich" people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a generic black guy. Dr. Wernick says the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way, like race, gender, ethnicity and geography. Economic profiling is surely not being called 'racist', even by liberals. Is it? Depends on what the profiling is for... and who is doing the profiling. If a conservative white person says that low-income Black neighborhoods tend to have a higher crime rate, that will be called racist. If a liberal white person says that blacks are incapable of properly educating themselves or holding down a family-sustaining job and therefor turn to crime, that is safe. Leave out the word 'Black'. Then even a liberal couldn't call the comment racist, no? I'm not speaking of someone like YKW, just your normal liberal. -- Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns! |
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On 5/24/2016 3:27 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:34:50 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote: On 5/24/2016 1:45 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:35:02 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote: Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11 That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling. Pure statistics make that be something like; poor black people poor latinos poor white people substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich" people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a generic black guy. Dr. Wernick says the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way, like race, gender, ethnicity and geography. Economic profiling is surely not being called 'racist', even by liberals. Is it? Depends on what the profiling is for... and who is doing the profiling. If a conservative white person says that low-income Black neighborhoods tend to have a higher crime rate, that will be called racist. If a liberal white person says that blacks are incapable of properly educating themselves or holding down a family-sustaining job and therefor turn to crime, that is safe. Leave out the word 'Black'. Then even a liberal couldn't call the comment racist, no? I'm not speaking of someone like YKW, just your normal liberal. Well, if you qualify it as a normal, reasonable person, I would agree with you. YKW, and others like him, would assume that "low-income areas with high crime" automatically means "Black." |
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