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Justan Olphart[_2_] May 24th 16 03:41 PM

I thought profiling was illegal
 
Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11


Ryan P. May 24th 16 04:11 PM

I thought profiling was illegal
 
On 5/24/2016 9:41 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11


I don't think its illegal, its just not politically correct. If
memory serves, I think most of the legal issues come from the angle of
racism.

If the vast majority of crime in an area is being committed by
Purples, is it reasonable for an officer to be more suspicious of a
Purple man acting suspiciously than a Green man?

[email protected] May 24th 16 04:35 PM

I thought profiling was illegal
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11


That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling.
Pure statistics make that be something like;
poor black people
poor latinos
poor white people
substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich"
people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a
generic black guy.

Keine Krausescheiße May 24th 16 07:44 PM

I thought profiling was illegal
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:11:18 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:

On 5/24/2016 9:41 AM, Justan Olphart wrote:
Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11


I don't think its illegal, its just not politically correct. If
memory serves, I think most of the legal issues come from the angle of
racism.

If the vast majority of crime in an area is being committed by
Purples, is it reasonable for an officer to be more suspicious of a
Purple man acting suspiciously than a Green man?


Nicely put. Maybe Chicago police just need some purple tinted glasses. Given what Dr. Wernick says,
"... the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way, like race,
gender, ethnicity and geography," I wonder why it might not be 'politically correct'.
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Keine Krausescheiße May 24th 16 07:45 PM

I thought profiling was illegal
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:35:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11

That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling.
Pure statistics make that be something like;
poor black people
poor latinos
poor white people
substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich"
people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a
generic black guy.



Dr. Wernick says the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way,
like race, gender, ethnicity and geography.

Economic profiling is surely not being called 'racist', even by liberals. Is it?
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Ryan P. May 24th 16 08:34 PM

I thought profiling was illegal
 
On 5/24/2016 1:45 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:35:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11

That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling.
Pure statistics make that be something like;
poor black people
poor latinos
poor white people
substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich"
people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a
generic black guy.



Dr. Wernick says the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way,
like race, gender, ethnicity and geography.

Economic profiling is surely not being called 'racist', even by liberals. Is it?


Depends on what the profiling is for... and who is doing the profiling.

If a conservative white person says that low-income Black
neighborhoods tend to have a higher crime rate, that will be called
racist. If a liberal white person says that blacks are incapable of
properly educating themselves or holding down a family-sustaining job
and therefor turn to crime, that is safe.

Keine Krausescheiße May 24th 16 09:27 PM

I thought profiling was illegal
 
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:34:50 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:

On 5/24/2016 1:45 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:35:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11

That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling.
Pure statistics make that be something like;
poor black people
poor latinos
poor white people
substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich"
people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a
generic black guy.



Dr. Wernick says the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way,
like race, gender, ethnicity and geography.

Economic profiling is surely not being called 'racist', even by liberals. Is it?


Depends on what the profiling is for... and who is doing the profiling.

If a conservative white person says that low-income Black
neighborhoods tend to have a higher crime rate, that will be called
racist. If a liberal white person says that blacks are incapable of
properly educating themselves or holding down a family-sustaining job
and therefor turn to crime, that is safe.


Leave out the word 'Black'. Then even a liberal couldn't call the comment racist, no? I'm not
speaking of someone like YKW, just your normal liberal.
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Ryan P. May 24th 16 10:24 PM

I thought profiling was illegal
 
On 5/24/2016 3:27 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:34:50 -0500, "Ryan P." wrote:

On 5/24/2016 1:45 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Tue, 24 May 2016 11:35:02 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 24 May 2016 10:41:15 -0400, Justan Olphart
wrote:

Maybe not in Rob Emanuals state.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...d=ansmsnnews11

That is hard to do without racial and economic profiling.
Pure statistics make that be something like;
poor black people
poor latinos
poor white people
substitute middle income for poor and repeat until you get to "rich"
people who only seem to kill family members and try to blame it on a
generic black guy.


Dr. Wernick says the model intentionally avoids using variables that could discriminate in some way,
like race, gender, ethnicity and geography.

Economic profiling is surely not being called 'racist', even by liberals. Is it?


Depends on what the profiling is for... and who is doing the profiling.

If a conservative white person says that low-income Black
neighborhoods tend to have a higher crime rate, that will be called
racist. If a liberal white person says that blacks are incapable of
properly educating themselves or holding down a family-sustaining job
and therefor turn to crime, that is safe.


Leave out the word 'Black'. Then even a liberal couldn't call the comment racist, no? I'm not
speaking of someone like YKW, just your normal liberal.


Well, if you qualify it as a normal, reasonable person, I would agree
with you.

YKW, and others like him, would assume that "low-income areas with high
crime" automatically means "Black."



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