True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
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"One can't venture far out into the "big world" in a little boat. Which
begs the question, How much boat do you need to venture into the big
world, safely and comfortably."


Depends on the sailor....a girlieman like you and some of your ilk in
here shouldn't venture outside the harbour approaches unless you're
aboard an ocean liner.......for me...a 17.5 foot runabout should be fine.


Sounds like a death wish.

KalifSwill guzzles....

"Sounds like a death wish."

Say what!
I'm not the one throwing myself off roofs and landing on my head.
It's always safety first.

True North wrote:
KalifSwill guzzles....

"Sounds like a death wish."

Say what!
I'm not the one throwing myself off roofs and landing on my head.
It's always safety first.


Swill? Dumb****. Lots of people get over their heads and in serious
trouble in small boats, in big water. Safety first? Maybe you just do not
do anything hard around the house. I have had some serious moments in my
14' aluminum skiff years ago, when winds came up. And even in the family
23' dual outboard, getting caught in a fast cross wind. Listed the boat
up, so one motor came out of the water. That was in a calm area near the
Berkeley pier, and the wind was coming from a levee about 2' above the calm
seas. I have a 21' deep sided boat, and still watch the weather. We get a
south wind, and the area outside the Golden Gate gets huge seas. As there
are shallows north and south of the channel under the gate, where the sand
and dirt are piled up.

On 5/20/2016 8:12 PM, Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
KalifSwill guzzles....

"Sounds like a death wish."

Say what!
I'm not the one throwing myself off roofs and landing on my head.
It's always safety first.


Swill? Dumb****. Lots of people get over their heads and in serious
trouble in small boats, in big water. Safety first? Maybe you just do not
do anything hard around the house. I have had some serious moments in my
14' aluminum skiff years ago, when winds came up. And even in the family
23' dual outboard, getting caught in a fast cross wind. Listed the boat
up, so one motor came out of the water. That was in a calm area near the
Berkeley pier, and the wind was coming from a levee about 2' above the calm
seas. I have a 21' deep sided boat, and still watch the weather. We get a
south wind, and the area outside the Golden Gate gets huge seas. As there
are shallows north and south of the channel under the gate, where the sand
and dirt are piled up.

Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr.

Justan Olphart
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" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr. "

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.

True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
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" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr."

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.


Yet you log 20 hours, or so, per year. What a waste.

On 5/21/2016 9:54 PM, Alex wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
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" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr."

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I
have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest
of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.


Yet you log 20 hours, or so, per year. What a waste.
He should sell his car-trailer-boat combo and get one of those old army
ducks if he likes to travel hither and yon to find water to float in. I
don't know why all little boats under 20' aren't fitted with wheels at
the least. The Amphicar was a great idea. I wonder why the concept
wasn't expanded upon. Harry could have used his family fortune to
develop a powered wheeled boat for consumer use instead of ****ing it
away on his personal toys. He could have been rich and Donnie could have
been happy with something that meets all of his vehicular needs.
Alas, I guess it wasn't meant to be. :-)

On Sat, 21 May 2016 05:59:09 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Justan Olphart
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" Yabut he boats mainly in a protected cesspool of a harboUr. "

Only a small fraction of my boating is in the harbour. That's why I have a trailer boat. We have two large bays a short distance southwest of the city plus numerous lakes, a few rivers and numerous coastal areas.

As one who is greatly interested in your safety while boating, I'd suggest keeping the Bayliner in
one of those numerous lakes and slow moving rivers.

Do the laws up there permit the dumping of sewage in lakes and rivers as well as in harbors?
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"One can't venture far out into the "big world" in a little boat. Which
begs the question, How much boat do you need to venture into the big
world, safely and comfortably."


Depends on the sailor....a girlieman like you and some of your ilk in
here shouldn't venture outside the harbour approaches unless you're
aboard an ocean liner.......for me...a 17.5 foot runabout should be fine.

Sounds like a death wish.



I take my 18' bass boat 6 miles offshore to the reef on good days. I can
get back in less than 15 minutes if the horizon looks dark.

Alex wrote:
Califbill wrote:
True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"One can't venture far out into the "big world" in a little boat. Which
begs the question, How much boat do you need to venture into the big
world, safely and comfortably."


Depends on the sailor....a girlieman like you and some of your ilk in
here shouldn't venture outside the harbour approaches unless you're
aboard an ocean liner.......for me...a 17.5 foot runabout should be fine.

Sounds like a death wish.



I take my 18' bass boat 6 miles offshore to the reef on good days. I can
get back in less than 15 minutes if the horizon looks dark.


Depends on the area. Here off San Francisco, the winds come up lat morning
in the summer, and goes from flat calm to swells, with 3' wind waves in 30
minutes. Small boat, makes for a large Ickes factor. Did that in a 14'
boat a lt of years ago. Not now. Run in before it gets nasty