Mr. Luddite
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"Why not just let Don buy the boat *he* likes ... "


Thank you!
I realize that the Bayliner is considered an entry level boat and have read whatever I can google on the pros and cons of outboard vs stern drive but some of the participants in here don't realize my realities. Low dollar, short season, dry sailing, light useage etc.
It doesn't make sense for me to stretch myself out on a top rated boat. Might be better to apply my 79 cent pension dollars, saved on a modest boat purchase, towards a modest travel trailer.

On 5/3/2016 11:20 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 5/3/2016 8:15 AM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 04:55:27 -0700 (PDT), True North
wrote:


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"No one has ever bought a boat and complained about it having too
much power. A longer, heavier boat will also ride better in choppy
seas. In my opinion the trailer issues that you mentioned are all
surmountable. I also agree with Alex about the desirability of
outboards. They are much easier/cheaper to maintain in my opinion."

I like the 'sport seating' available with the stern drive models.
The two jump seats sit on either side of the motor box and are much
further back than the bench seat on the outboard model. This allows a
lot more floor room.


http://bayliner.com/models/bowrider-.../170-bowrider/

http://bayliner.com/models/bowrider-.../175-bowrider/

If you raise the center section of the seat in the 170, you have two
jump seats *and* storage space.
You seem to have forgotten the 'floor room' occupied by the engine
compartment.

Why not just let Don buy the boat *he* likes ...

The problem is he's never happy with his compromises. He listens to
salesmen too much.

On 5/3/2016 12:35 PM, True North wrote:
Mr. Luddite
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"Why not just let Don buy the boat *he* likes ..."


Thank you!
I realize that the Bayliner is considered an entry level boat and have read whatever I can google on the pros and cons of outboard vs stern drive but some of the participants in here don't realize my realities. Low dollar, short season, dry sailing, light useage etc.
It doesn't make sense for me to stretch myself out on a top rated boat. Might be better to apply my 79 cent pension dollars, saved on a modest boat purchase, towards a modest travel trailer.

It doesn't sound to me that you are a good candidate for a boat
purchase. You already have a modest boat. And I'm sure what you
contemplate is much of an upgrade, if any at all. Save your bucks and
put them towards a modest camper.
BTW Do you have room to store a boat AND a camper?

On Tue, 3 May 2016 09:35:14 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
"Why not just let Don buy the boat *he* likes ... "


Thank you!
I realize that the Bayliner is considered an entry level boat and have read whatever I can google on the pros and cons of outboard vs stern drive but some of the participants in here don't realize my realities. Low dollar, short season, dry sailing, light useage etc.
It doesn't make sense for me to stretch myself out on a top rated boat. Might be better to apply my 79 cent pension dollars, saved on a modest boat purchase, towards a modest travel trailer.

If you don't want input, why continue to pose quandaries? You write paragraphs about the decision
process you're going through and then thank Luddite when he suggests no one comment on that process.
Why not just buy the boat and tell no one what you are considering or why. Then, keep it to
yourself...no pictures or description.

Just tell everyone it's got twin Volvo inboard diesels!
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Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

On 5/3/16 1:04 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 09:35:14 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Mr. Luddite
- show quoted text -
"Why not just let Don buy the boat *he* likes ... "


Thank you!
I realize that the Bayliner is considered an entry level boat and have read whatever I can google on the pros and cons of outboard vs stern drive but some of the participants in here don't realize my realities. Low dollar, short season, dry sailing, light useage etc.
It doesn't make sense for me to stretch myself out on a top rated boat. Might be better to apply my 79 cent pension dollars, saved on a modest boat purchase, towards a modest travel trailer.

If you don't want input, why continue to pose quandaries? You write paragraphs about the decision
process you're going through and then thank Luddite when he suggests no one comment on that process.
Why not just buy the boat and tell no one what you are considering or why. Then, keep it to
yourself...no pictures or description.

Just tell everyone it's got twin Volvo inboard diesels!
--

You just never stop being the flaming asshole, do you?

Keyser Söze says
"You just never stop being the flaming asshole, do you? ..."


The John is an amusing fellow

He can blather on endlessly about motorbikes, baking and cooking, golf and so called camping, but I should keep quiet about what to me is a major boat purchase.
He must have been quite the leader in the 'merican army.

On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Keyser Söze says
"You just never stop being the flaming asshole, do you? ..."


The John is an amusing fellow

He can blather on endlessly about motorbikes, baking and cooking, golf and so called camping, but I should keep quiet about what to me is a major boat purchase.
He must have been quite the leader in the 'merican army.

I asked why you make an issue of the various considerations, but don't want input on them.

No one suggested you 'keep quiet', unless you'd rather have no response. Then you should 'keep
quiet'.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

On 5/3/16 2:14 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Keyser Söze says
"You just never stop being the flaming asshole, do you? ..."


The John is an amusing fellow

He can blather on endlessly about motorbikes, baking and cooking, golf and so called camping, but I should keep quiet about what to me is a major boat purchase.
He must have been quite the leader in the 'merican army.

I asked why you make an issue of the various considerations, but don't want input on them.

No one suggested you 'keep quiet', unless you'd rather have no response. Then you should 'keep
quiet'.
--

Why not give it a rest, SnarlyJohn?

On Tue, 3 May 2016 14:30:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/3/16 2:14 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Keyser Söze says
"You just never stop being the flaming asshole, do you? ..."


The John is an amusing fellow

He can blather on endlessly about motorbikes, baking and cooking, golf and so called camping, but I should keep quiet about what to me is a major boat purchase.
He must have been quite the leader in the 'merican army.

I asked why you make an issue of the various considerations, but don't want input on them.

No one suggested you 'keep quiet', unless you'd rather have no response. Then you should 'keep
quiet'.
--

Why not give it a rest, SnarlyJohn?

Whatsa matter, Krause? Don can't answer for himself?

He's the one talking about how tough to make his choice was. I would have been glad if someone had
steered me away from a stern drive when I bought the Pro Line for use in the bay. I'll never make
that mistake again.
--

Ban Krausescheiße-spouting narcissists...not guns!

On 5/3/16 2:42 PM, Keine Krauseschei�e wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 14:30:26 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 5/3/16 2:14 PM, Keine Krauseschei?e wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2016 10:57:59 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

Keyser Söze says
"You just never stop being the flaming asshole, do you? ..."


The John is an amusing fellow

He can blather on endlessly about motorbikes, baking and cooking, golf and so called camping, but I should keep quiet about what to me is a major boat purchase.
He must have been quite the leader in the 'merican army.

I asked why you make an issue of the various considerations, but don't want input on them.

No one suggested you 'keep quiet', unless you'd rather have no response. Then you should 'keep
quiet'.
--

Why not give it a rest, SnarlyJohn?



Whatsa matter, Krause? Don can't answer for himself?

He's the one talking about how tough to make his choice was. I would have been glad if someone had
steered me away from a stern drive when I bought the Pro Line for use in the bay. I'll never make
that mistake again.
--



Another perfect example of your snarliness, Johnny. Why not give it a rest?