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Mr. Luddite February 29th 16 01:23 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 

Was just reading something I found interesting written back in 2002.
It's an article comparing two "larger than life" US Presidents .. Teddy
Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy in terms of their respective personalities
and styles.

What caught my attention are the similarities of personalities, style
and egos of Roosevelt and Donald Trump. Both were/are all about
"themselves" and their achievements. Both are regarded as political
"mavericks". Both gave/give speeches that are long on rhetoric and
short on substance. Roosevelt, after serving his time in office, became
disgusted with the direction his hand-picked successor (Taft) took and
tried to regain the White House running as a third party (Bull Moose
Party). His attempt failed but his division of votes with the
Republican Party handed the White House to the Democrats.

Yet, Teddy Roosevelt ranks in the top ten of "best" Presidents among
political scientists according to a 2015 poll administered by the
American Political Science Association.

Is the Donald being sold short?


[email protected] February 29th 16 02:02 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?


===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

Tim February 29th 16 04:03 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
7:23 PMMr. Luddite

Was just reading something I found interesting written back in 2002.
It's an article comparing two "larger than life" US Presidents .. Teddy
Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy in terms of their respective personalities
and styles.

What caught my attention are the similarities of personalities, style
and egos of Roosevelt and Donald Trump. Both were/are all about
"themselves" and their achievements. Both are regarded as political
"mavericks". Both gave/give speeches that are long on rhetoric and
short on substance. Roosevelt, after serving his time in office, became
disgusted with the direction his hand-picked successor (Taft) took and
tried to regain the White House running as a third party (Bull Moose
Party). His attempt failed but his division of votes with the
Republican Party handed the White House to the Democrats.

Yet, Teddy Roosevelt ranks in the top ten of "best" Presidents among
political scientists according to a 2015 poll administered by the
American Political Science Association.

Is the Donald being sold short?
.......

I'd rather Teddy be running today than Trump

[email protected] February 29th 16 07:14 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,
wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?


===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.


I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.

Keyser Söze February 29th 16 11:11 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?


===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.


I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Keyser Söze February 29th 16 11:12 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/28/16 8:23 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

Was just reading something I found interesting written back in 2002.
It's an article comparing two "larger than life" US Presidents .. Teddy
Roosevelt and John F. Kennedy in terms of their respective personalities
and styles.

What caught my attention are the similarities of personalities, style
and egos of Roosevelt and Donald Trump. Both were/are all about
"themselves" and their achievements. Both are regarded as political
"mavericks". Both gave/give speeches that are long on rhetoric and
short on substance. Roosevelt, after serving his time in office, became
disgusted with the direction his hand-picked successor (Taft) took and
tried to regain the White House running as a third party (Bull Moose
Party). His attempt failed but his division of votes with the
Republican Party handed the White House to the Democrats.

Yet, Teddy Roosevelt ranks in the top ten of "best" Presidents among
political scientists according to a 2015 poll administered by the
American Political Science Association.

Is the Donald being sold short?


Excuse me while I puke.

Keyser Söze February 29th 16 11:37 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.


I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.


Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.

John H.[_5_] February 29th 16 11:38 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:37:00 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


More Krausescheiße!

Tell us about your 'Vietnam Service', Krause.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Mr. Luddite February 29th 16 12:00 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.


Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.



And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Keyser Söze February 29th 16 12:15 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.


Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.



And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.

Mr. Luddite February 29th 16 12:35 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

“The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani,” the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. “This is not company I wish to keep.”

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.



And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.


Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.



Tim February 29th 16 12:53 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:37:03 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:


Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


Harry, can't you figure out that nobody here likes the guy? Can't you?

Tim February 29th 16 12:54 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.


Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.


Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.

Keyser Söze February 29th 16 12:55 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:37:03 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:


Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


Harry, can't you figure out that nobody here likes the guy? Can't you?


I don't believe that.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Mr. Luddite February 29th 16 01:30 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.


Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.


Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.



Harry is just being Harry. It tickles me though to see him react when
anything even slightly positive is said about a candidate other than his
favorite. That's really why I post what I post. He's very predictable.
Strange though, for a guy who boasts so much of his superior
education and intellect that he thinks in such a binary fashion.

Then again, I know he doesn't. He does what he does just to maintain
his reputation.





Keyser Söze February 29th 16 01:34 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.

Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.


Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.



Harry is just being Harry. It tickles me though to see him react when
anything even slightly positive is said about a candidate other than his
favorite. That's really why I post what I post. He's very predictable.
Strange though, for a guy who boasts so much of his superior
education and intellect that he thinks in such a binary fashion.

Then again, I know he doesn't. He does what he does just to maintain
his reputation.






I see nothing positive about Trump.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Tim February 29th 16 01:46 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:55:38 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 5:37:03 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:


Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


Harry, can't you figure out that nobody here likes the guy? Can't you?


I don't believe that.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+


It's still a free country so believer what you wish. I still say you can't figure it out though.

Tim February 29th 16 01:47 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 7:35:00 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is....is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.


Tim February 29th 16 02:00 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 7:30:50 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr..
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.

Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.


Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.



Harry is just being Harry. It tickles me though to see him react when
anything even slightly positive is said about a candidate other than his
favorite. That's really why I post what I post. He's very predictable.
Strange though, for a guy who boasts so much of his superior
education and intellect that he thinks in such a binary fashion.

Then again, I know he doesn't. He does what he does just to maintain
his reputation.


Richard, for the longest time I tried to give the benefit of the doubt, but I believe you're right.

Keyser Söze February 29th 16 03:42 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/16 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will
not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far
pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center
to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and
Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk
away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the
fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six
months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from
them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the
comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted
Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.

Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.


Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.



Harry is just being Harry. It tickles me though to see him react when
anything even slightly positive is said about a candidate other than his
favorite. That's really why I post what I post. He's very predictable.
Strange though, for a guy who boasts so much of his superior
education and intellect that he thinks in such a binary fashion.

Then again, I know he doesn't. He does what he does just to maintain
his reputation.





That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.

[email protected] February 29th 16 03:58 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 06:11:47 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.


I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

You are really spinning that or you did not actually see the show.
His answer about Duke was he did not know Duke had endorsed him and he
repudiated it.
As for the quote, he said he did not know it was Mussolini but he
liked the line
I bet Mussolini did not write "“It is better to live one day as a lion
than 100 years as a sheep.", he just heard it somewhere himself.
My bet is the Romans heard it from someone in North Africa before the
birth of Jesus and it has been in the Italian culture for eons.

There are plenty of reasons to dislike Trump but this is bull****.




Mr. Luddite February 29th 16 04:01 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/2016 10:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald,
not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will
not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far
pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center
to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have
said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and
Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk
away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the
fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six
months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on
videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from
them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the
comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke
is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted
Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.

Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.

Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.



Harry is just being Harry. It tickles me though to see him react when
anything even slightly positive is said about a candidate other than his
favorite. That's really why I post what I post. He's very predictable.
Strange though, for a guy who boasts so much of his superior
education and intellect that he thinks in such a binary fashion.

Then again, I know he doesn't. He does what he does just to maintain
his reputation.





That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.


To quote one of my favorites but not your's:

"There you go again"

:-)

As for who I'll vote for (assuming I even vote) ... I'll quote your
favorite but not mine:

"What, at this point, difference does it make?"

*If* I even bother to vote, I'll probably feel the Berne. Of all the
candidates, he's the most honest and even though I don't agree with a
lot of his ideas, I also know he'll never move into the White House.



[email protected] February 29th 16 04:11 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 07:15:21 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.


Hillary panders to the same Wall Street banksters you profess to hate
and she won't even tell us what she was telling them in those 6 figure
paid speeches.
That isn't from the republicans. Bernie is saying it.

[email protected] February 29th 16 05:02 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.


So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.

I understand she says she is a democrat so you will vote for her but,
like her hubby, she will be the best big business candidate the
banksters could ever hope for.
Even her immigration stance is a boon to the corporations who want to
exploit the cheap source of labor.
The only excuse you could make is to say the immigrants are taking
jobs Americans refuse to do but that has you defending Trump's
statements to that effect.
You say you hate Walmart but Hillary was on the board when the company
abandoned the original ideals of Sam sr and became the china outlet
store that exploits it's workers and destroys mom and pop.

As long as she is pushing Bill out on front of he she will have to own
his policies which were anti welfare, anti gay, pro wall street and
pro deregulation. He also bombed the **** out of a lot of innocent
brown people. She also has a pretty bad voting record herself if you
want to be a democrat. (immigration, the war, the bailout, ethanol
etc)

Facts will never get in the way of your partisan party politics so you
just don't care who you are really voting for. As long as it says (D)
next to the name you will pull the rooster.

I may never vote for a winner but I will still have a clean conscience
about who I voted for.


Keyser Söze February 29th 16 06:11 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.


So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.


Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.

Vote for the Loonytarian candidate of your choice, safe in the knowledge
that he wouldn't win even if he were endorsed for an office in Chicago
by the original Richard Daley and was the only guy running, and voting
was mandatory.



[email protected] February 29th 16 07:21 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:11:23 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/29/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.


So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.


Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.


It is easy to call someone ignorant but until you actually address the
points and not attack the messenger you are looking like the ignorant
one.
You sound more like Trump than you want to admit.

Califbill February 29th 16 07:42 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.

Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.

Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.



Harry is just being Harry. It tickles me though to see him react when
anything even slightly positive is said about a candidate other than his
favorite. That's really why I post what I post. He's very predictable.
Strange though, for a guy who boasts so much of his superior
education and intellect that he thinks in such a binary fashion.

Then again, I know he doesn't. He does what he does just to maintain
his reputation.






I see nothing positive about Trump.


Actually, I think your IQ is probably a little less than Al Gore's. And
his is only 120.


John H.[_5_] February 29th 16 08:11 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald, not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will
not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far
pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center
to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and
Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk
away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the
fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six
months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from
them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the
comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted
Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.

Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.

Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.



Harry is just being Harry. It tickles me though to see him react when
anything even slightly positive is said about a candidate other than his
favorite. That's really why I post what I post. He's very predictable.
Strange though, for a guy who boasts so much of his superior
education and intellect that he thinks in such a binary fashion.

Then again, I know he doesn't. He does what he does just to maintain
his reputation.





That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.


Change 'right' to 'left', and you've pretty much described what you see in the mirror
when you brush your teeth, eh Krause? I guess you could've inserted the word 'lying'
somewhere in there.

--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

John H.[_5_] February 29th 16 08:12 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 11:01:36 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 2/29/2016 10:42 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 8:30 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:54 AM, Tim wrote:
On Monday, February 29, 2016 at 6:35:03 AM UTC-6, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 7:15 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 7:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/29/2016 6:37 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 6:11 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 2:14 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 21:02:32 -0500,

wrote:

On Sun, 28 Feb 2016 20:23:20 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

Is the Donald being sold short?

===

I don't think he'll be getting my vote.
TR lived a fairly honorable life as far as I know. Donald,
not so
much. What you see is what you get.

I am not sure any of those weasels has lived what I would call an
honorable life.
I bet the Trump we see in the general (if he gets there) will
not be
the guy we see now,
That is the biggest problem we have with this primary process.
The primary candidates need to appeal to their party's most far
pout
fringe to win the primary, then they need to run to the center
to be
elected. In the last half dozen presidential elections I have
said,
they passed each other in the middle. That was really true with
Clinton and Dole. Clinton was already pretty far right by 96 and
Dole
was to the left of him by the election.


Yesterday on the big morning TV news shows, Trump refused to walk
away
from the support he is receiving from David Duke and the right-wing
hate
groups and also defended his use of a tweeted quote from the
fascist,
Mussolini.

He has said dozens of really horrific things over the past six
months,
and he continues to say them. All these statements are on
videotape.
They define Trump and he will not be allowed to walk away from
them if
he gets the nomination. He is without question as sleazy as the GOP
base
that loves him. He will be forced to be the guy he is now.

The attempt to show Trump in a favorable light in the
comparison to
TR is odious.

Oh, by the way, Trump claiming he doesn't know who David Duke
is...is
bull****:

Trump knew exactly who and what David Duke was back in 2000:

"The Reform Party now includes a Klansman, Mr. Duke, a neo-Nazi, Mr.
Buchanan, and a communist, Ms. Fulani," the New York Times quoted
Trump
saying in a statement. "This is not company I wish to keep."

Obviously and odiously, Trump is going for the base of rec.boats.


And Hillary's newly adopted pandering is going for what?



Hillary isn't pandering to racists like your new hero, Trump, is.

Who said Trump is my hero?

You might be very surprised as to who I would vote for this year,
assuming I even bother to vote.

Richard, Harry just cant figure it out.



Harry is just being Harry. It tickles me though to see him react when
anything even slightly positive is said about a candidate other than his
favorite. That's really why I post what I post. He's very predictable.
Strange though, for a guy who boasts so much of his superior
education and intellect that he thinks in such a binary fashion.

Then again, I know he doesn't. He does what he does just to maintain
his reputation.





That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.


To quote one of my favorites but not your's:

"There you go again"

:-)

As for who I'll vote for (assuming I even vote) ... I'll quote your
favorite but not mine:

"What, at this point, difference does it make?"

*If* I even bother to vote, I'll probably feel the Berne. Of all the
candidates, he's the most honest and even though I don't agree with a
lot of his ideas, I also know he'll never move into the White House.


Kasich.
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John H.[_5_] February 29th 16 08:14 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:11:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.


So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.


Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.


You didn't refute ****. You opened your mouth and some more Krausesheizze spewed
forth. Go pat yourself on the back somewhere else.
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Keyser Söze February 29th 16 08:15 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/16 2:21 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:11:23 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/29/16 12:02 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.

So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.


Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.


It is easy to call someone ignorant but until you actually address the
points and not attack the messenger you are looking like the ignorant
one.
You sound more like Trump than you want to admit.



ibidem. Though I do encourage closet Repubs in swing states to vote for
Loonytarians.

Keyser Söze February 29th 16 08:26 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 2/29/16 3:14 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:11:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.

So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.


Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.


You didn't refute ****. You opened your mouth and some more Krausesheizze spewed
forth. Go pat yourself on the back somewhere else.
--


Obviously your reading comprehension skills are about as bad as
CalifBill's, and you will be voting for Trump in the general.


John H.[_5_] February 29th 16 08:38 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 15:26:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 3:14 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:11:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.

So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.

Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.


You didn't refute ****. You opened your mouth and some more Krausesheizze spewed
forth. Go pat yourself on the back somewhere else.
--


Obviously your reading comprehension skills are about as bad as
CalifBill's, and you will be voting for Trump in the general.


If Trump is the Republican nominee, then you bet your butt I will. He may be bad, but
he's still much better than the alternative.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

John H.[_5_] February 29th 16 09:02 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 15:26:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 3:14 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:11:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.

So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.

Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.


You didn't refute ****. You opened your mouth and some more Krausesheizze spewed
forth. Go pat yourself on the back somewhere else.
--


Obviously your reading comprehension skills are about as bad as
CalifBill's, and you will be voting for Trump in the general.


Spewing **** is not proving something wrong.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Keyser Söze February 29th 16 09:09 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 15:26:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 3:14 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:11:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.

So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.

Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.

You didn't refute ****. You opened your mouth and some more Krausesheizze spewed
forth. Go pat yourself on the back somewhere else.
--


Obviously your reading comprehension skills are about as bad as
CalifBill's, and you will be voting for Trump in the general.


Spewing **** is not proving something wrong.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!


Spewing **** is your best and only attribute, johnnyRancor

--
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Califbill March 1st 16 04:36 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/29/16 3:14 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 13:11:23 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/29/16 12:02 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 10:42:15 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

That's just simple-minded conservative bull****. While Hillary is my
preference because she can win the general, I have no problems with
Bernie or Martin. The three leading Republicans, on the other hand,
consist of a loud-mouthed asshole, a crazy right wing extremist asshole,
and an empty suit.

So you have a communist and a congenital liar who has demonstrated
many times that she is pimping for the people you profess to hate.

Luddite claimed I would trash any candidate who was not my favorite. I
refuted that. Your comments here about Hillary are just the same
ignorant nonsense you have posted many times.


You didn't refute ****. You opened your mouth and some more Krausesheizze spewed
forth. Go pat yourself on the back somewhere else.
--


Obviously your reading comprehension skills are about as bad as
CalifBill's, and you will be voting for Trump in the general.



Your debate skills suck. Interesting, is how low the Democrats are turning
out for the elections. Tells us, that not many are enthused about Hillary
and Berni.


[email protected] March 1st 16 05:38 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 20:36:14 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:



Obviously your reading comprehension skills are about as bad as
CalifBill's, and you will be voting for Trump in the general.



Your debate skills suck. Interesting, is how low the Democrats are turning
out for the elections. Tells us, that not many are enthused about Hillary
and Berni.


Harry debates just like Trump. It is all "you are stupid, I am awesome
and I don't need to tell you anything else".

Ironic isn't it. I still say if Trump was running as a democrat, Harry
would love him.

RGrew176 March 1st 16 09:21 AM

I seem to remember the New Black Panthers supporting Obama in 2008. They even had members at many polling places sporting billy clubs. The dems did not seem to get all worked up over that.

I guess it somehow slipped off their radar.

No candidate has any control over who may or may not endorse them.

The KKK endorsing Trump is no more meaningful than the New Black Panthers supporting Obama.

John H.[_5_] March 1st 16 11:15 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:38:49 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 20:36:14 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:



Obviously your reading comprehension skills are about as bad as
CalifBill's, and you will be voting for Trump in the general.



Your debate skills suck. Interesting, is how low the Democrats are turning
out for the elections. Tells us, that not many are enthused about Hillary
and Berni.


Harry debates just like Trump. It is all "you are stupid, I am awesome
and I don't need to tell you anything else".

Ironic isn't it. I still say if Trump was running as a democrat, Harry
would love him.


You hit that nail right on the head.
--

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Mr. Luddite March 1st 16 11:51 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/1/2016 6:15 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 01 Mar 2016 00:38:49 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 29 Feb 2016 20:36:14 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:



Obviously your reading comprehension skills are about as bad as
CalifBill's, and you will be voting for Trump in the general.



Your debate skills suck. Interesting, is how low the Democrats are turning
out for the elections. Tells us, that not many are enthused about Hillary
and Berni.


Harry debates just like Trump. It is all "you are stupid, I am awesome
and I don't need to tell you anything else".


Ironic isn't it. I still say if Trump was running as a democrat, Harry
would love him.


You hit that nail right on the head.


In the futile interest of a reasonable debate, I don't think that is
true at all. Trump would have to change his colors and adopt most or
all of mainstream Democratic positions on issues in order to gain
Harry's approval.

Harry is a Social Democrat IMO and has outlined what he believes are the
important issues that need to be addressed and has offered ways of
accomplishing them. Not all agree with the priorities or methods with
the GOP and it's supporters being the primary opposition. Hillary
meets his standards as does Bernie, so he could accept or vote for
either of them. My personal opposition to Hillary isn't necessarily her
(changing) positions on issues but rather on my strong belief that she,
more than most, is a deceitful, lying and selfishly motivated politician
and has been for all of her professional and political career. Even if
I agreed with everything she spouts, I could never vote for her.
There's a limit to what can be overlooked, IMO.





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