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Keyser Söze March 2nd 16 06:24 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/2/16 12:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.


At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...

[email protected] March 2nd 16 08:39 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.


At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...


What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs

Tim March 2nd 16 08:47 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
2:39
- show quoted text -
What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs
......

Doesn't hurt to have some of that anyhow...

Keyser Söze March 2nd 16 08:56 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...


What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Keyser Söze March 2nd 16 09:07 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/2/16 3:47 PM, Tim wrote:
2:39
- show quoted text -
What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs
.....

Doesn't hurt to have some of that anyhow...


IGA in your town closing?

John H.[_5_] March 2nd 16 09:56 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 12:47:48 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

2:39
- show quoted text -
What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs
.....

Doesn't hurt to have some of that anyhow...


Ammo and gold, OK, but these are much better than MREs:

http://www.bushbeans.com/en_US/product/texas-rancheror
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Keyser Söze March 2nd 16 11:04 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/2/16 4:56 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 12:47:48 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

2:39
- show quoted text -
What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs
.....

Doesn't hurt to have some of that anyhow...


Ammo and gold, OK, but these are much better than MREs:

http://www.bushbeans.com/en_US/product/texas-rancheror
--


Johnny and his rec.boats hillbilly camping buddies enjoying dinner:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXHkFZ-nG4Y


[email protected] March 3rd 16 12:00 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...


What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck


Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.

If the candidates are not going to actually give you your individual
freedoms and a money you can trust, what would you suggest?

Borrowing 3 trillion more money than the markets are willing to lend
you and printing the rest in the basement (aka monetary easing) is not
sound fiscal policy. Nobody wants to talk about that.
There is not much argument about the loss of individual freedoms
whether it is guns, abortion or drugs, legal and illegal. (the only
things they will talk about)
That doesn't even touch privacy, property rights and the trampling of
the 4th 5th 6th 9th and 10th amendments.

When a candidate is willing to talk about that, I will pay attention.
Otherwise I am going to vote for someone who will.

[email protected] March 3rd 16 12:02 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 16:07:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 3:47 PM, Tim wrote:
2:39
- show quoted text -
What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs
.....

Doesn't hurt to have some of that anyhow...


IGA in your town closing?


If people stop thinking the dollar is worth much. it might.


John H.[_5_] March 3rd 16 01:13 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 19:00:42 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...

What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck


Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.

If the candidates are not going to actually give you your individual
freedoms and a money you can trust, what would you suggest?

Borrowing 3 trillion more money than the markets are willing to lend
you and printing the rest in the basement (aka monetary easing) is not
sound fiscal policy. Nobody wants to talk about that.
There is not much argument about the loss of individual freedoms
whether it is guns, abortion or drugs, legal and illegal. (the only
things they will talk about)
That doesn't even touch privacy, property rights and the trampling of
the 4th 5th 6th 9th and 10th amendments.

When a candidate is willing to talk about that, I will pay attention.
Otherwise I am going to vote for someone who will.


Please tell when the hell Krause has ever dealt with the points you've made!
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

[email protected] March 3rd 16 04:35 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 20:13:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 19:00:42 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...

What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck


Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.

If the candidates are not going to actually give you your individual
freedoms and a money you can trust, what would you suggest?

Borrowing 3 trillion more money than the markets are willing to lend
you and printing the rest in the basement (aka monetary easing) is not
sound fiscal policy. Nobody wants to talk about that.
There is not much argument about the loss of individual freedoms
whether it is guns, abortion or drugs, legal and illegal. (the only
things they will talk about)
That doesn't even touch privacy, property rights and the trampling of
the 4th 5th 6th 9th and 10th amendments.

When a candidate is willing to talk about that, I will pay attention.
Otherwise I am going to vote for someone who will.


Please tell when the hell Krause has ever dealt with the points you've made!


Pretty much never. He doesn't mind posting a 30 line cut and paste but
his actual contributions to the conversation tend to be insulting one
liners. That is how Trump "debates".

A person who's debeate points are limited to restating their
credentials, calls into question just how questionable those
credentials are.


John H.[_5_] March 3rd 16 12:12 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 23:35:43 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 20:13:01 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 19:00:42 -0500,
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...

What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck

Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.

If the candidates are not going to actually give you your individual
freedoms and a money you can trust, what would you suggest?

Borrowing 3 trillion more money than the markets are willing to lend
you and printing the rest in the basement (aka monetary easing) is not
sound fiscal policy. Nobody wants to talk about that.
There is not much argument about the loss of individual freedoms
whether it is guns, abortion or drugs, legal and illegal. (the only
things they will talk about)
That doesn't even touch privacy, property rights and the trampling of
the 4th 5th 6th 9th and 10th amendments.

When a candidate is willing to talk about that, I will pay attention.
Otherwise I am going to vote for someone who will.


Please tell when the hell Krause has ever dealt with the points you've made!


Pretty much never. He doesn't mind posting a 30 line cut and paste but
his actual contributions to the conversation tend to be insulting one
liners. That is how Trump "debates".

A person who's debeate points are limited to restating their
credentials, calls into question just how questionable those
credentials are.


Then why continue to feed his narcissism by giving him a forum to spew his crap? It
doesn't bother me that you do so, but I can't understand the rationale for presenting
a cogent argument only to have, "Thank you Mr. Beck" thrown in your face - over, and
over, and over.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Keyser Söze March 3rd 16 12:50 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/2/16 7:00 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...

What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck


Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.



Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


Keyser Söze March 3rd 16 01:21 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/2/16 8:13 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 19:00:42 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...

What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck


Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.

If the candidates are not going to actually give you your individual
freedoms and a money you can trust, what would you suggest?

Borrowing 3 trillion more money than the markets are willing to lend
you and printing the rest in the basement (aka monetary easing) is not
sound fiscal policy. Nobody wants to talk about that.
There is not much argument about the loss of individual freedoms
whether it is guns, abortion or drugs, legal and illegal. (the only
things they will talk about)
That doesn't even touch privacy, property rights and the trampling of
the 4th 5th 6th 9th and 10th amendments.

When a candidate is willing to talk about that, I will pay attention.
Otherwise I am going to vote for someone who will.


Please tell when the hell Krause has ever dealt with the points you've made!
--



JohnnyRancorous...once again, there is no requirement here to respond to
any particular posts. I simply do not buy into Fretwell's doom and gloom
scenarios, political nihilism, and survivalism, and feel no need to try
to talk him out of them.




[email protected] March 3rd 16 02:29 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.

Tim March 3rd 16 04:23 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 8:29:36 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.


Thats the way i see it. 1928 was a great year. Then.....

Tim March 3rd 16 04:23 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 8:29:36 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.



Tim March 3rd 16 04:25 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 6:50:20 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/2/16 7:00 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court.
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...

What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck


Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.



Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


And who says he has to? Rec.boats isn't a political science course.

Tim March 3rd 16 04:26 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:21:59 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/2/16 8:13 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 19:00:42 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 15:56:13 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 13:24:48 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 12:56 PM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 11:31:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:40 AM,
wrote:
On Wed, 2 Mar 2016 10:19:54 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 10:09 AM,
wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2016 14:21:17 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I vote but I vote for someone who reflects my views, not someone in a
given party


None of the GOP "frontrunners" reflect my views on any issue of
importance to me. I certainly wouldn't want any of the Republithugs
nominating to the Supreme Court.

I suppose that all depends on what you expect out of the court..
Liberals want to court to do social engineering and bypass the
legislative process. True conservatives simply want the court to
defend the constitution.


True conservatives... gosh, what is the litmus test for that these days?

It is not what passes for the current test,
I would say a person who respects the text of the constitution,
defends the individual rights of the population against an oppressive
government and someone who wants a sustainable fiscal policy.


Gosh, what national politicians meet your standards? Preferably name
those who hold or who have held national office.

At least you and BAO recognize my frustration with the weasels we have
been presented with. Those do not seem to be unreasonable things to
ask for


I'm simply indulging your fantasies...

What? the fantasy of someone who wants to protect our rights and the
value of our money?
Is that really too much to ask?
If they can't provide that, maybe we should be stocking up on gold,
ammo and MREs


Thank you, mr. Beck

Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.

If the candidates are not going to actually give you your individual
freedoms and a money you can trust, what would you suggest?

Borrowing 3 trillion more money than the markets are willing to lend
you and printing the rest in the basement (aka monetary easing) is not
sound fiscal policy. Nobody wants to talk about that.
There is not much argument about the loss of individual freedoms
whether it is guns, abortion or drugs, legal and illegal. (the only
things they will talk about)
That doesn't even touch privacy, property rights and the trampling of
the 4th 5th 6th 9th and 10th amendments.

When a candidate is willing to talk about that, I will pay attention.
Otherwise I am going to vote for someone who will.


Please tell when the hell Krause has ever dealt with the points you've made!
--



JohnnyRancorous...once again, there is no requirement here to respond to
any particular posts. I simply do not buy into Fretwell's doom and gloom
scenarios, political nihilism, and survivalism, and feel no need to try
to talk him out of them.


hmmm, throwing insults. Just like Trump, Harry will you run as his VP?

[email protected] March 3rd 16 06:51 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 07:12:28 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 23:35:43 -0500, wrote:


Pretty much never. He doesn't mind posting a 30 line cut and paste but
his actual contributions to the conversation tend to be insulting one
liners. That is how Trump "debates".

A person who's debeate points are limited to restating their
credentials, calls into question just how questionable those
credentials are.


Then why continue to feed his narcissism by giving him a forum to spew his crap? It
doesn't bother me that you do so, but I can't understand the rationale for presenting
a cogent argument only to have, "Thank you Mr. Beck" thrown in your face - over, and
over, and over.


Just practice and intellectual curiosity.

[email protected] March 3rd 16 06:55 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/2/16 7:00 PM, wrote:


Thank you, mr. Beck


Another brain fart from Harry

Deal with the points I state or shut the **** up.



Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


That is fine until the government will not be able to support all of
the programs you are dependent on.
Right now an increasing amount of government spending is simply a
wealth transfer from the young to the old and if the kids ever wake up
and start voting, that will stop.

[email protected] March 3rd 16 06:59 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 09:29:34 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.


Preppers and survivalists are right here just about every time a named
storm goes over our head. Florida people do seem to be more self
reliant in that 3 or 4 day period after the storm passes than most
places. That was particularly true in New Orleans where the people
immediately needed a government bailout for things FEMA (or Civil
Defense before that) has been telling they should have for decades.

[email protected] March 3rd 16 07:10 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 08:23:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 8:29:36 AM UTC-6, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.


Thats the way i see it. 1928 was a great year. Then.....


1929 and 2007 were just bumps in the road compared to what will happen
when people start demanding that the central banks have to stop simply
printing money to plug the holes in the economy.
The whole world is in a debt bubble and when that pops, they will have
lost the biggest tool in the box to fix it.
We lied to ourselves for years saying China was stealing all of our
prosperity and now it turns out, they are broke too. Europe, South
America and Japan are basket cases. Even the Saudis and the emirates
are feeling the pinch. It will not take much to push over this house
of cards we have built.
At that point funding the entitlements will come after keeping the
lights on and the water flowing.

[email protected] March 3rd 16 07:22 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 08:26:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:21:59 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:


JohnnyRancorous...once again, there is no requirement here to respond to
any particular posts. I simply do not buy into Fretwell's doom and gloom
scenarios, political nihilism, and survivalism, and feel no need to try
to talk him out of them.


hmmm, throwing insults. Just like Trump, Harry will you run as his VP?


Harry is like those people in the late 90s and early 2000s who argued
with me that the American home mortgage was the safest investment on
the planet.
He may have even been one of them.

Keyser Söze March 3rd 16 07:26 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/3/16 1:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 09:29:34 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.


===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.


Preppers and survivalists are right here just about every time a named
storm goes over our head. Florida people do seem to be more self
reliant in that 3 or 4 day period after the storm passes than most
places. That was particularly true in New Orleans where the people
immediately needed a government bailout for things FEMA (or Civil
Defense before that) has been telling they should have for decades.




John H.[_5_] March 3rd 16 09:37 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:26:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/3/16 1:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 09:29:34 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.

===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.


Preppers and survivalists are right here just about every time a named
storm goes over our head. Florida people do seem to be more self
reliant in that 3 or 4 day period after the storm passes than most
places. That was particularly true in New Orleans where the people
immediately needed a government bailout for things FEMA (or Civil
Defense before that) has been telling they should have for decades.



Most informative post you've made in months, Krause.
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Keyser Söze March 3rd 16 09:41 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/3/16 4:37 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:26:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/3/16 1:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 09:29:34 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.

===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.

Preppers and survivalists are right here just about every time a named
storm goes over our head. Florida people do seem to be more self
reliant in that 3 or 4 day period after the storm passes than most
places. That was particularly true in New Orleans where the people
immediately needed a government bailout for things FEMA (or Civil
Defense before that) has been telling they should have for decades.



Most informative post you've made in months, Krause.
--


The moron is big in you, JohnnyRacist.


[email protected] March 3rd 16 09:49 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 16:37:14 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 14:26:19 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 3/3/16 1:59 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 09:29:34 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 07:50:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

Sorry, but I'm just not into political nihilism. And you seem unwilling
or unable to name any national politicians who meet your standards. Oh,
and I don't buy into "survivalism," either.

===

It has been said that a stopped clock is right twice a day. Sooner or
later the preppers and survivalists will be right also.

Preppers and survivalists are right here just about every time a named
storm goes over our head. Florida people do seem to be more self
reliant in that 3 or 4 day period after the storm passes than most
places. That was particularly true in New Orleans where the people
immediately needed a government bailout for things FEMA (or Civil
Defense before that) has been telling they should have for decades.



Most informative post you've made in months, Krause.


That is one of those silent farts

John H.[_5_] March 3rd 16 10:09 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:51:19 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 07:12:28 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 23:35:43 -0500, wrote:


Pretty much never. He doesn't mind posting a 30 line cut and paste but
his actual contributions to the conversation tend to be insulting one
liners. That is how Trump "debates".

A person who's debeate points are limited to restating their
credentials, calls into question just how questionable those
credentials are.


Then why continue to feed his narcissism by giving him a forum to spew his crap? It
doesn't bother me that you do so, but I can't understand the rationale for presenting
a cogent argument only to have, "Thank you Mr. Beck" thrown in your face - over, and
over, and over.


Just practice and intellectual curiosity.


Well, I'll admit that seeing Harry continuously made the fool doesn't bother me a whole lot. Feel a bit sorry for him, but not much.

Keyser Söze March 4th 16 12:31 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/3/16 5:09 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 1:51:19 PM UTC-5, wrote:
On Thu, 03 Mar 2016 07:12:28 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Wed, 02 Mar 2016 23:35:43 -0500, wrote:


Pretty much never. He doesn't mind posting a 30 line cut and paste but
his actual contributions to the conversation tend to be insulting one
liners. That is how Trump "debates".

A person who's debeate points are limited to restating their
credentials, calls into question just how questionable those
credentials are.

Then why continue to feed his narcissism by giving him a forum to spew his crap? It
doesn't bother me that you do so, but I can't understand the rationale for presenting
a cogent argument only to have, "Thank you Mr. Beck" thrown in your face - over, and
over, and over.


Just practice and intellectual curiosity.


Well, I'll admit that seeing Harry continuously made the fool doesn't bother me a whole lot. Feel a bit sorry for him, but not much.


Uh, you're planning to vote for Trump, and you're a racist fool.

Keyser Söze March 4th 16 12:39 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/3/16 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 08:26:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:21:59 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:


JohnnyRancorous...once again, there is no requirement here to respond to
any particular posts. I simply do not buy into Fretwell's doom and gloom
scenarios, political nihilism, and survivalism, and feel no need to try
to talk him out of them.


hmmm, throwing insults. Just like Trump, Harry will you run as his VP?


Harry is like those people in the late 90s and early 2000s who argued
with me that the American home mortgage was the safest investment on
the planet.
He may have even been one of them.


Shouldn't you be stashing MRE's in anticipation of world collapse?

I don't take your libertarian/doomsday politics seriously, and therefore
I don't often engage you in debate about them. As I have stated here
several times, we have some libertarians up here who set up roadside
booths and I have talked a couple of times to the guys running the
booths and handing out flyers. I concluded they were nutso, and not just
because they were also "birthers."

Tim March 4th 16 01:30 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
6:39 PMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Shouldn't you be stashing MRE's in anticipation of world collapse?

I don't take your libertarian/doomsday politics seriously, and therefore
I don't often engage you in debate about them. As I have stated here
several times, we have some libertarians up here who set up roadside
booths and I have talked a couple of times to the guys running the
booths and handing out flyers. I concluded they were nutso, and not just
because they were also "birthers."
----

In other words if you don't bow down to mainline liberal thinking, you're "nutso."
Atta boy Harry!

Tim March 4th 16 05:05 AM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 6:39:22 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/3/16 2:22 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 3 Mar 2016 08:26:46 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

On Thursday, March 3, 2016 at 7:21:59 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:


JohnnyRancorous...once again, there is no requirement here to respond to
any particular posts. I simply do not buy into Fretwell's doom and gloom
scenarios, political nihilism, and survivalism, and feel no need to try
to talk him out of them.

hmmm, throwing insults. Just like Trump, Harry will you run as his VP?


Harry is like those people in the late 90s and early 2000s who argued
with me that the American home mortgage was the safest investment on
the planet.
He may have even been one of them.


Shouldn't you be stashing MRE's in anticipation of world collapse?

I don't take your libertarian/doomsday politics seriously, and therefore
I don't often engage you in debate about them. As I have stated here
several times, we have some libertarians up here who set up roadside
booths and I have talked a couple of times to the guys running the
booths and handing out flyers. I concluded they were nutso, and not just
because they were also "birthers."


http://d1g4sq00ps2bp3.cloudfront.net/images/12757.jpg

Keyser Söze March 4th 16 12:57 PM

Teddy Roosevelt and the Donald
 
On 3/3/16 8:30 PM, Tim wrote:
6:39 PMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Shouldn't you be stashing MRE's in anticipation of world collapse?

I don't take your libertarian/doomsday politics seriously, and therefore
I don't often engage you in debate about them. As I have stated here
several times, we have some libertarians up here who set up roadside
booths and I have talked a couple of times to the guys running the
booths and handing out flyers. I concluded they were nutso, and not just
because they were also "birthers."
----

In other words if you don't bow down to mainline liberal thinking, you're "nutso."
Atta boy Harry!


Those boys were into branch line crazy thinking.


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