On 2/25/16 4:44 PM, John H. wrote:

Actually, Harry, Don and I had a pretty decent conversation going about his new
Bayliner. I suppose you weren't interested enough, given your attitude towards
Bayliners.
--

Wow. You might get nominated for one gold star.

On 2/25/16 4:41 PM, Tim wrote:
3:18 PMTrue North
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.
---

Don I can see your point that the world refers to the Umited States as being America, though that is a rather wide brush.
I'm just disappointed when U.S. Citizens purposley abbreviate like that. To me that's their right but it's still shameful



How about when 'Mericans bomb two countries that had nothing to do with
9-11. Is that shameful?

On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 4:14:56 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 4:41 PM, Tim wrote:
3:18 PMTrue North
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.
---

Don I can see your point that the world refers to the Umited States as being America, though that is a rather wide brush.
I'm just disappointed when U.S. Citizens purposley abbreviate like that. To me that's their right but it's still shameful



How about when 'Mericans bomb two countries that had nothing to do with
9-11. Is that shameful?

Im out

On 2/25/16 5:27 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 4:14:56 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 4:41 PM, Tim wrote:
3:18 PMTrue North
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.
---

Don I can see your point that the world refers to the Umited States as being America, though that is a rather wide brush.
I'm just disappointed when U.S. Citizens purposley abbreviate like that. To me that's their right but it's still shameful



How about when 'Mericans bomb two countries that had nothing to do with
9-11. Is that shameful?

Im out


Of course.

On 2/25/2016 1:43 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 1:10 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 08:42:56 -0500, John H. wrote:

On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 07:48:58 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/25/16 6:36 AM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 24 Feb 2016 20:28:57 -0500, Alex wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/24/16 12:06 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/23/2016 5:56 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
John H. wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 10:46:05 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/23/16 8:24 AM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 23 Feb 2016 07:44:01 -0500, Keyser Söze

wrote:

On 2/23/16 6:58 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 22 Feb 2016 20:26:17 -0500, Alex
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Sat, 20 Feb 2016 21:37:40 -0500, Alex
wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 19:38:42 -0800 (PST), True North
wrote:

Ditzy Dan Kruger blathers...
True North wrote:
Oh boy...now I feel really cold.
Local CBC says it's minus 12C but feels like minus
23C due
to wind.
I'd better buy a new outdoor thermometer...or place the
current
one further from the house.
"Sure you can afford one?"

I can afford to buy a new boat, dummy.
Wife and I picked out one yesterday at the local boat
show.
So? Come on...tell us more. Pictures?

Here I've spent hours reading and listening to
computer sound
systems, and you're
doing something constructive!
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not
guns!
I have these. The controller is outstanding!

https://www.bose.com/en_us/products/...nion5_graphite



I looked at that in Best Buy. If they'd had one in
stock, I may
have brought it home.
Luckily, they were out of them. I came home, moved the
subwoofer to a different spot,
and listened to the Saint-Saëns symphony at a reasonable
volume. Sounded great, so
I'm going to stick with these old Logitech Z2300s for a
while
longer.
--



I bought mine from the Bose outlet store. 30% off retail
and
they seem
to hold their distributors to retail prices.

Amazon, Best Buy, Bose, etc, all want $399 for the
Companion 5s.
Only used, on Ebay,
is there a different price that I saw.

If I were to go with a different set, those would be the
speakers, I think.
--

Interesting that Bose doesn't include frequency response in
its
on-line
specs, unless I missed it.

http://dreamandreach.bose.com/en_US/...sychoacoustics



--

Ahh, so the frequency response numbers must be pretty crappy in
comparison to similarly priced speakers from other
manufacturers...enjoy.

I've never been disappointed with any set of Bose speakers. Of
course, unlike you I
don't listen to the frequency response numbers. I listen to
the music.

Again, don't you ever just get f'ing sick of yourself?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!


As some wag once wrote:


No highs, no lows...must be Bose.

That slogan has been around since the early 1970's, started by
either
audio elitists who misunderstood what Bose was marketing and
selling in
the 901 series speakers or by one of the competing "high end"
speaker
manufacturers of the day. The Bose 901 speaker design was
originally
unique in the respect that it employed the "direct/reflecting"
concept
in a fairly small enclosure for the standards of the time. You
have to
remember that the "high end" speakers of the 1960's (the 901's were
introduced in 1968) were typically large, heavy, (sometimes double
walled and sand filled) monstrosities that contained a large 12"
or 15"
woofer, mid-range and various types of tweeter drivers. The
901's were
an attempt to create a sound stage effect by reflecting most of the
sound off the walls behind the speakers.

The big problem is that few people had living rooms that allowed
the
901's to be set up properly. They depend on proper spacing away
from
hard walls (not curtains or drapes) to sound good. They also
shouldn't
be placed symmetrically in a room (meaning both speakers being
the same
distance from a side wall). Guys who understood the placement
requirements might have tried but wives usually prevailed in
terms of
where they ended up in a room. Been there, done that.

Another bit about the 901's: Without the Bose equalizer they sound
terrible. I've seen vintage 901's set up and being used without
the
equalizer because it was either lost or not working. Waste of
time.
Try to find a vintage Bose equalizer on eBay or elsewhere. They
don't
come up for sale often.

That all said, the 901's *can* sound wonderful if properly set
up. I
have had the unique opportunity to compare a fully functional
set (with
equalizer) that were made in 1980 to a pair of "high end" (for
their
day) four foot high JBL studio monitor monsters. Both speaker
sets are
up in a large garage with the 901's having the benefit of hard,
sheetrock walls behind them.

The 901's sound better overall to my ears and to everyone who has
listened to both in a casual "blind" test. The JBL's sound great.
The Bose 901's are clearer though with crisper highs and about
the same
level of bass as the JBL's. More importantly is the
sound stage image they project as compared to the JBL's. The Bose
concept works *if* you pay attention to how they are setup.

As for other, contemporary Bose products, they are simply an
over-priced
way to get "big" sound out of small enclosures, IMO. The original
direct/reflecting concept has been dropped in favor of things like
waveguides to reinforce bass in a small package. Other audio
equipment
manufacturers have adopted similar waveguide designs over the
years that
are much less expensive to purchase.

Oh ... one other comment for Harry. Bose has never officially
published
the frequency response curves for any of their products.
It's basically meaningless anyway when comparing similar sized
speakers.
A set of speakers with a theoretically "perfect", flat
response curve from 20Hz to 20kHz are not going to sound the same
set up in different rooms. The acoustics of the room itself
has a major impact on how they sound. Same is true in your
favorite
concert hall. Millions are spent on the design and acoustic
treatment
of the hall in order to "equalize" the sound of all the various
instruments in a symphony orchestra.



Thanks. My points of reference these days remain my
electrostatics and
a friend's setup with genuine Klipschhorns.


Sure.


He heard that word from Luddite.
--



Lookie, lookie...a pair of *ConservaSnarks*

Are you sure the friend's 'Klipschhorns' (sic) are genuine? It
appears maybe the
label was misspelled by the Chinese? You checked the serial numbers
with the factory?


~crickets~
--



I'll bet you hear crickets a lot. Remember, JohnnyRancor, you are not
*entitled* to answers.

We're enjoying your roast even though you don't participate.

On 2/25/2016 1:54 PM, Tim wrote:
12:42 PMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Awww. JohnnyRancor is upset over the spelling of 'Merica. Awww.
....

Really Harry, you should be too

Harry hasn't indicated that he is invested in America.

On 2/25/2016 2:48 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:26:56 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 25 Feb 2016 14:06:31 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Tim wrote:
12:42 PMKeyser Söze
- show quoted text -
Awww. JohnnyRancor is upset over the spelling of 'Merica. Awww.
...

Really Harry, you should be too


Why?

===

Why? Because you should be proud of this great country which has
allowed you to live as a leach all of these years.

If I hated a country as much as he does this one, I'd be movin' on out...maybe to
'anada?
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, audiophools, and narcissists...not guns!

Many of his fellow cowards did just that in the 60s.

On 2/25/2016 4:16 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 4:12 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 3:19:24 PM UTC-5, Tim wrote:
Harry I spent three years as a contracted govt employee that took an
oath to defend the constitution. That same document that allows you
to be (as I see it) disrespectful by calling it what you do.
I just can't see it myself.

Don is Canadian so I feel he can be excused (though he actually
lives in as you say 'merica' or "muraca"or " merikkka" as well)
because he's not a U.S. Citizen.

I might be a bit misguided into thinking that citizens of this
country would have a better display of respect to their homeland than
to call it what you have and do...

You kinda have to remember who you're dealing with here. Have you ever
heard Harry say anything good about America? I really think Don does
his thing just to curry favor with Harry. Why? I don't know. Don has
proven he can carry on a decent discussion, as long as it's about
something he owns or is buying.


On the other hand, you can't carry on a decent conversation about
anything, JohnnyRancor.

He has tried to engage you in conversation and you consistently respond
with insults. What are you afraid of?

On 2/25/2016 5:27 PM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, February 25, 2016 at 4:14:56 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 4:41 PM, Tim wrote:
3:18 PMTrue North
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.
---

Don I can see your point that the world refers to the Umited States as being America, though that is a rather wide brush.
I'm just disappointed when U.S. Citizens purposley abbreviate like that. To me that's their right but it's still shameful



How about when 'Mericans bomb two countries that had nothing to do with
9-11. Is that shameful?

Im out

make sure you take a good decontamination shower.

On 2/25/2016 5:14 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/25/16 4:41 PM, Tim wrote:
3:18 PMTrue North
There's a distinction...I do live on the North American continent but
not in America. To the rest of the world..America is the United
States...not Canada or Mexico.
Never said I hate America, that's The John at work playing his games.
---

Don I can see your point that the world refers to the Umited States as
being America, though that is a rather wide brush.
I'm just disappointed when U.S. Citizens purposley abbreviate like
that. To me that's their right but it's still shameful



How about when 'Mericans bomb two countries that had nothing to do with
9-11. Is that shameful?

What two countries were those?