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Mr. Luddite February 11th 16 07:00 AM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
.... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.


Keyser Söze February 11th 16 11:51 AM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.

Tim February 11th 16 01:03 PM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..

Keyser Söze February 11th 16 01:06 PM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
On 2/11/16 8:03 AM, Tim wrote:
Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..



I have a strong feeling that the concept of "super delegates" was not
news to Bernie or any other professional politician. Not everyone lives
in the bubble of ignorance.

Tim February 11th 16 01:10 PM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:06:11 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/11/16 8:03 AM, Tim wrote:
Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..

he gets 15

I have a strong feeling that the concept of "super delegates" was not
news to Bernie or any other professional politician. Not everyone lives
in the bubble of ignorance.


he gets 15 and she gets 17 and she didn't have to work for it. lol

Keyser Söze February 11th 16 01:14 PM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
On 2/11/16 8:10 AM, Tim wrote:
On Thursday, February 11, 2016 at 7:06:11 AM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/11/16 8:03 AM, Tim wrote:
Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..

he gets 15

I have a strong feeling that the concept of "super delegates" was not
news to Bernie or any other professional politician. Not everyone lives
in the bubble of ignorance.


he gets 15 and she gets 17 and she didn't have to work for it. lol



D'uh. Read up on "super delegates" and report back when you break out of
the bubble. Here's a hint: "super delegates" are not chosen on the basis
of popularity with the voters.

As for "work for it," well, that's another bubble for you, if you are
presuming that Hillary and Bernie were not working really hard to win
the New Hampshire primary.



[email protected] February 11th 16 01:18 PM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 08:06:08 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 2/11/16 8:03 AM, Tim wrote:
Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..



I have a strong feeling that the concept of "super delegates" was not
news to Bernie or any other professional politician. Not everyone lives
in the bubble of ignorance.


===

Harry, your own bubble of ignorance is so vast that you can't tell
where it begins or ends.

John H.[_5_] February 11th 16 01:38 PM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 06:51:04 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/11/16 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.



"Superdelegates" have long been a contentious issue within the party,
and came about to help prevent the nomination of a candidate who might
have been popular but believed to be an impending disaster in the
electoral college. I'm not sure how significant superdelegate status is
these days because of changes in the rules, but superdelegates still
have some status.

Too bad the GOP hasn't some way to at least steer its nominating
processes, considering the party's likely POTUS candidate will be an
absolutely crazy mutt.


You mean it's too bad the GOP doesn't have some way of bypassing elections by the
voters?

I guess you'd consider that 'playing fair', eh Krause?


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John H.[_5_] February 11th 16 01:38 PM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
On Thu, 11 Feb 2016 05:03:33 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

Looks like Bernie got a lesson on delegate re-distribution..


LOL!
--

Ban liars, tax cheats, idiots, and narcissists...not guns!

Justan Olphart[_2_] February 11th 16 01:55 PM

Rigged primaries and elections.
 
On 2/11/2016 2:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:

So, who won the NH Democratic primary? One would think that Bernie won,
having received 60 percent of the vote.

Not so, it seems. The DNC doesn't want Bernie so they have
manipulated the delegate count by apply their "super delegates" votes
in favor of Hillary. Basically, the DNC is saying, "Screw you voters
.... *we* will decide who becomes the Democratic nominee."

What is a "superdelegate" you ask?

Superdelegates are political insiders. They consist of state officials,
national officials, Democratic (in this case) Committee members and
others with "special" interests in a specific candidate.
They can cast their vote any way they want to regardless of who wins the
popular vote.

A Democratic candidate needs 2,382 total delegates to win the
nomination. Of those, 712 are superdelegates. Hillary, despite a
virtual tie with Sanders in Iowa and a major popular vote loss in NH,
still is far ahead of Sanders in committed delegates. She currently has
394 delegates compared to 44 for Bernie. 360 of Hillary's delegates are
"superdelegates".

This is a joke and a mockery of what are supposed to be elections
determined by voters. The DNC will decide who their candidate is.


THAT SHOULD **** OFF EVEN THE STAUNCHEST SANE DEMOCRAT.


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