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[email protected] January 28th 16 07:28 AM

Tell a lie often enough
 
.... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 10:34 AM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 02:28:29 -0500, wrote:

... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Tim January 28th 16 01:11 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 4:34:31 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 02:28:29 -0500, wrote:

... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Really? I thought he said the R governor did it so it would be easier to kill off blacks.

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 01:14 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:11:40 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 4:34:31 AM UTC-6, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 02:28:29 -0500, wrote:

... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Really? I thought he said the R governor did it so it would be easier to kill off blacks.


Whoopsiedaisy...should have said:

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut about killing off blacks."

Thanks for the correction.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 28th 16 02:17 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On 1/28/2016 2:28 AM, wrote:
.... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I wonder what that corrosion inhibitor does to human pipes.

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 28th 16 02:18 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On 1/28/2016 5:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 02:28:29 -0500, wrote:

... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

If you really want to fake a Harry, blame it on Cheeny or Bush

[email protected] January 28th 16 02:21 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."


===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 02:34 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:18:37 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 1/28/2016 5:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 02:28:29 -0500, wrote:

... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

If you really want to fake a Harry, blame it on Cheeny or Bush


It's their fault that the murder rates in Flint and Detroit are so high.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 02:35 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:21:41 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."


===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."



Should be:
"...poor, black, democratic party residents."
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Tim January 28th 16 03:18 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."


===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."
.....

Any room in there for the "rightie-Christian-fumdies?"

Keyser Söze January 28th 16 03:21 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
Tim wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."


===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."
....

Any room in there for the "rightie-Christian-fumdies?"


No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.

--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

[email protected] January 28th 16 04:00 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:21:41 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."


===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."


Lead doesn't really kill people, it just makes them dumber. Maybe that
is why these big city people keep electing democrats, why they can't
seem to find a real job and why all of those cities are bankrupt.

BTW another thing that had me spitting my tea at the TV was when the
Sharpton representative on the panel (NTN) was complaining that all
the "black run" cities in Michigan were under receivership. Maybe it
is because they were so mismanaged that they all went broke.

[email protected] January 28th 16 04:16 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 10:21:00 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Tim wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.

I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."


===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."
....

Any room in there for the "rightie-Christian-fumdies?"


No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.


I do feel bad for he people of Flint and I have said so but they were
betrayed by their government and that starts at the water managers at
the Flint water plant who failed to add the corrosion inhibitor that
is in the Detroit water they replaced. I blame the Detroit water
district who TERMINATED their contract with Flint 3 years before the
new pipeline from Lake Huron could be completed. I blame the city,
county, county and federal water quality people who failed to figure
this out until they had poisoned 100,000 people (the county and EPA
directors were forced to resign)

The documents to support this have been linked on this BB and they are
available to anyone with the intellectual curiosity to look for them.
Evidently Ms Mad Cow is not that interested. She just wants to blame
this on the governor, to the exclusion of everyone else, even though
she admits the Flint City council actually voted 7-1 to do it.

You people also act like they just dragged a hose over to the Flint
river on the spur of the moment but the fact is, this plant has had
the Flint River as their back up source for almost a century (the only
source in 1917) and it seems nobody had actually investigated the
water and it's effects on pipes that have been in the system for the
same 100 years. I do wonder what the lead levels were at the tap 3
years ago, before all of this.

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 28th 16 04:43 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On 1/28/2016 10:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.

I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."


===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."
....

Any room in there for the "rightie-Christian-fumdies?"


No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.

Where's yours?

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 05:21 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 11:43:52 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 1/28/2016 10:21 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
Tim wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.

I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."

===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."
....

Any room in there for the "rightie-Christian-fumdies?"


No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.

Where's yours?


Just because he's done nothing but accuse the governor doesn't mean he's not full
of...empathy? He's just not expressed it all yet!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 05:22 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 11:00:33 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 09:21:41 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 05:34:31 -0500, John H.
wrote:

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.

I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."


===

If you want to play Harry you need to do it right.

"It's the conservatrash repugnicant governor's fault. He conspired
with the crooked banksters to install the lead pipes as a way of
poisoning the poor democratic party residents."


Lead doesn't really kill people, it just makes them dumber. Maybe that
is why these big city people keep electing democrats, why they can't
seem to find a real job and why all of those cities are bankrupt.

BTW another thing that had me spitting my tea at the TV was when the
Sharpton representative on the panel (NTN) was complaining that all
the "black run" cities in Michigan were under receivership. Maybe it
is because they were so mismanaged that they all went broke.


Have you ever seen a ghetto *not* run by a Democrat?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] January 28th 16 08:28 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:21:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.

Where's yours?


Just because he's done nothing but accuse the governor doesn't mean he's not full
of...empathy? He's just not expressed it all yet!


===

Probably right, I knew he was full of something. I had no idea
empathy smelled that badly.

[email protected] January 28th 16 09:06 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:28:12 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:21:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.

Where's yours?


Just because he's done nothing but accuse the governor doesn't mean he's not full
of...empathy? He's just not expressed it all yet!


===

Probably right, I knew he was full of something. I had no idea
empathy smelled that badly.


I am supposed to carry a bag for the empathy when I walk Ed around the
neighborhood.

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 09:17 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:06:53 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:28:12 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:21:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.

Where's yours?

Just because he's done nothing but accuse the governor doesn't mean he's not full
of...empathy? He's just not expressed it all yet!


===

Probably right, I knew he was full of something. I had no idea
empathy smelled that badly.


I am supposed to carry a bag for the empathy when I walk Ed around the
neighborhood.


I buy mine from Uline, two thousand at a time.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Tim January 28th 16 09:20 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
3:07
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:28:12 -0500,
wrote:
- show quoted text -
I am supposed to carry a bag for the empathy when I walk Ed around the
neighborhood.

3:17 PMJohn H.
- show quoted text -
I buy mine from Uline, two thousand at a time.
- show quoted text -
--------


Lol!!!

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 09:27 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 13:20:41 -0800 (PST), Tim wrote:

3:07
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:28:12 -0500,
wrote:
- show quoted text -
I am supposed to carry a bag for the empathy when I walk Ed around the
neighborhood.

3:17 PMJohn H.
- show quoted text -
I buy mine from Uline, two thousand at a time.
- show quoted text -
--------


Lol!!!


Well, I give the kids a couple hundred at Christmas.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] January 28th 16 09:34 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:17:47 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:06:53 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:28:12 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:21:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.

Where's yours?

Just because he's done nothing but accuse the governor doesn't mean he's not full
of...empathy? He's just not expressed it all yet!

===

Probably right, I knew he was full of something. I had no idea
empathy smelled that badly.


I am supposed to carry a bag for the empathy when I walk Ed around the
neighborhood.


I buy mine from Uline, two thousand at a time.


I have Ed pretty well trained to come back to his tree next to the
house to drop a deuce. We are usually running at full tilt tho. The
neighbors get a kick out of it.
If we don't make it, I come back with a shovel.

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 09:35 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:34:24 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:17:47 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:06:53 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 15:28:12 -0500,

wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 12:21:37 -0500, John H.
wrote:

No surprise at the lack of empathy for the struggling residents of flint.

Where's yours?

Just because he's done nothing but accuse the governor doesn't mean he's not full
of...empathy? He's just not expressed it all yet!

===

Probably right, I knew he was full of something. I had no idea
empathy smelled that badly.

I am supposed to carry a bag for the empathy when I walk Ed around the
neighborhood.


I buy mine from Uline, two thousand at a time.


I have Ed pretty well trained to come back to his tree next to the
house to drop a deuce. We are usually running at full tilt tho. The
neighbors get a kick out of it.
If we don't make it, I come back with a shovel.


I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Keyser Söze January 28th 16 09:37 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On 1/28/16 4:35 PM, John H. wrote:


I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!
--


Well, at least your dogs aren't full of ****. Perhaps you can take a
lesson from them.


John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 09:43 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:37:59 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 1/28/16 4:35 PM, John H. wrote:


I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!
--


Well, at least your dogs aren't full of ****. Perhaps you can take a
lesson from them.


How many times did you go around Cape Horn?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

True North[_2_] January 28th 16 10:42 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 

The John flushes...

"I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!"

Say what?
Two dogs and one doggy bag". What kind of idiocy is that.
I always carry at least three for one dog...just in case.
Y'all are as crazy as the bedbugs!

John H.[_5_] January 28th 16 11:51 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:42:48 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:


The John flushes...

"I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!"

Say what?
Two dogs and one doggy bag". What kind of idiocy is that.
I always carry at least three for one dog...just in case.
Y'all are as crazy as the bedbugs!


Call names, Don. That supports your position.

I'm glad to hear you need three bags, just in case. Brush up on your dexterity and
you'll be able to get by with one easily.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] January 29th 16 12:11 AM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:35:59 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:34:24 -0500, wrote:


I have Ed pretty well trained to come back to his tree next to the
house to drop a deuce. We are usually running at full tilt tho. The
neighbors get a kick out of it.
If we don't make it, I come back with a shovel.


I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!


I doubt one of those bags would hold an Ed poop.

I do prefer the shovel method.
He has pretty much got it figured out he is supposed to go under the
tree tho. If we do have an off site incident I take him and the shovel
full back to the tree to remind him.
He also knows it is OK back on the FPL right of way behind the house
too. When I turn him loose in the back yard that is where he goes.
That is a nice run for him because it is a 150 yard dead end finger of
land between 2 canals and nobody really ever goes up there.



Alex[_6_] January 29th 16 12:25 AM

Tell a lie often enough
 
Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/28/2016 5:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 02:28:29 -0500, wrote:

... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.


I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put
in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the
Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

If you really want to fake a Harry, blame it on Cheeny or Bush


And insert Palin some way - any way - it doesn't matter.

Alex[_6_] January 29th 16 12:33 AM

Tell a lie often enough
 
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/28/16 4:35 PM, John H. wrote:


I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity
getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!
--


Well, at least your dogs aren't full of ****. Perhaps you can take a
lesson from them.

Dumb.

True North[_2_] January 29th 16 02:19 AM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:52:00 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:42:48 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:


The John flushes...

"I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!"

Say what?
Two dogs and one doggy bag". What kind of idiocy is that.
I always carry at least three for one dog...just in case.
Y'all are as crazy as the bedbugs!


Call names, Don. That supports your position.

I'm glad to hear you need three bags, just in case. Brush up on your dexterity and
you'll be able to get by with one easily.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Exactly what name did I call anyone? Your given name is John...isn't it?
Why do y'all work so hard to be disagreeable?

Its Me January 29th 16 04:36 AM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 9:19:40 PM UTC-5, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:52:00 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:42:48 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:


The John flushes...

"I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!"

Say what?
Two dogs and one doggy bag". What kind of idiocy is that.
I always carry at least three for one dog...just in case.
Y'all are as crazy as the bedbugs!


Call names, Don. That supports your position.

I'm glad to hear you need three bags, just in case. Brush up on your dexterity and
you'll be able to get by with one easily.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Exactly what name did I call anyone? Your given name is John...isn't it?
Why do y'all work so hard to be disagreeable?


You are not bright enough to be successfully disingenuous.

John H.[_5_] January 29th 16 12:29 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 19:11:56 -0500, wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:35:59 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 16:34:24 -0500,
wrote:


I have Ed pretty well trained to come back to his tree next to the
house to drop a deuce. We are usually running at full tilt tho. The
neighbors get a kick out of it.
If we don't make it, I come back with a shovel.


I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!


I doubt one of those bags would hold an Ed poop.

I do prefer the shovel method.
He has pretty much got it figured out he is supposed to go under the
tree tho. If we do have an off site incident I take him and the shovel
full back to the tree to remind him.
He also knows it is OK back on the FPL right of way behind the house
too. When I turn him loose in the back yard that is where he goes.
That is a nice run for him because it is a 150 yard dead end finger of
land between 2 canals and nobody really ever goes up there.


Yes it would. My neighbor and I share an order from Uline. He uses the bags for his
*big* Doberman. No problem. These guys hold a lot.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...OrderHistory=Y

They come in sets of 100 and hang on a doorknob or hook so they're easy to rip off.
Because they're made to drop newspapers in, one side of the top opening is lower than
the other. That makes them very easy to open, even with cold, cold fingers (which you
never get to experience).
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] January 29th 16 12:32 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 19:25:25 -0500, Alex wrote:

Justan Olphart wrote:
On 1/28/2016 5:34 AM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 02:28:29 -0500, wrote:

... and it becomes fact

Rachel Mad Cow did a show on MSNBC tonight and a lot of it was
perfectly true. Lead is there, it is bad, it came from the pipes and
the pipes should have been replaced 50 years ago when Flint was
rolling in auto money.
It is true that they were damaged because the Flint water district did
not add the SAME corrosion inhibitors that Detroit uses.

Where the lies start is when they start laying blame.
#1 it was not the state that decided to switch from Detroit water to
the Flint River
The fact is the Detroit water district terminated their contract with
Flint in retaliation for Genesee County building a competing pipeline.
#2 It was not the state that decided to go with the Genesee county
water system, (something they completely ignored) it was the city
council and Rachel admitted it was a 7-1 vote.

The unanswered question was, WHO decided not to add the corrosion
inhibitor that Detroit uses? It certainly wasn't money since that
would only be about $100 a day for the whole city. That pretty much
had to be the Flint water district manager or his staff.
Why wasn't there anyone in the water district who knew that water
without the corrosion inhibitor would cause this problem?

I have posted the water reports from Flint and Detroit here already
and there is not any significant difference in pH or even the salt
they are talking about (~4ppm)

They did say there were failures at every level of government, right
before they said it was all the governor's fault. I bet if Grandholm
was still there they would have found a way to blame it on Bush.

I assume they now want the federal government to spend the billions to
replace all of that pipe. Are we going to do it in every other city
that used lead pipe?
I guess a $1000 surtax on everyone's 1040 would cover it.

I'll pretend to be Harry...

"I don't care. It's the Republican Governor's fault. He probably put
in the lead
pipes to begin with, and was using the inhibitor money to pay off the
Flint water
department folks to keep their mouths shut."
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

If you really want to fake a Harry, blame it on Cheeny or Bush


And insert Palin some way - any way - it doesn't matter.


You put 'insert' and 'Palin' in the same sentence. Now Harry will be getting all
hornified.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] January 29th 16 01:03 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 18:19:38 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

On Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:52:00 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:42:48 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:


The John flushes...

"I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!"

Say what?
Two dogs and one doggy bag". What kind of idiocy is that.
I always carry at least three for one dog...just in case.
Y'all are as crazy as the bedbugs!


Call names, Don. That supports your position.

I'm glad to hear you need three bags, just in case. Brush up on your dexterity and
you'll be able to get by with one easily.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Exactly what name did I call anyone? Your given name is John...isn't it?
Why do y'all work so hard to be disagreeable?


Follow along: "Don, you are as stupid as a pile of dog ****."

If I had said that, would I have called you a name?

I don't think you're really stupid, but sometimes you really act like a stupid
12-year-old.

A week or two ago, you mentioned a trailer and I provided some information and
questions to help you out. You didn't respond. It's OK if you respond to posts in an
'agreeable' manner. You'll find the response reciprocated. Try it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

True North[_2_] January 29th 16 01:13 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
The John flushes...

"Yes it would. My neighbor and I share an order from Uline. He uses the bags for his
*big* Doberman. No problem. These guys hold a lot.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...OrderHistory=Y

They come in sets of 100 and hang on a doorknob or hook so they're easy to rip off.
Because they're made to drop newspapers in, one side of the top opening is lower than
the other. That makes them very easy to open, even with cold, cold fingers (which you
never get to experience)."


But...are they biodegradable? Otherwise you're just part of the problem.

John H.[_5_] January 29th 16 01:41 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On Fri, 29 Jan 2016 05:13:56 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:

The John flushes...

"Yes it would. My neighbor and I share an order from Uline. He uses the bags for his
*big* Doberman. No problem. These guys hold a lot.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...OrderHistory=Y

They come in sets of 100 and hang on a doorknob or hook so they're easy to rip off.
Because they're made to drop newspapers in, one side of the top opening is lower than
the other. That makes them very easy to open, even with cold, cold fingers (which you
never get to experience)."


But...are they biodegradable? Otherwise you're just part of the problem.


Probably not. They get put with all the other garbage that's not biodegradable. It's
much cleaner than dumping black water in the local bay though.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 29th 16 02:22 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On 1/28/2016 9:19 PM, True North wrote:
The John flushes...


What exactly does this mean?

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 29th 16 02:24 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On 1/28/2016 11:36 PM, Its Me wrote:
On Thursday, January 28, 2016 at 9:19:40 PM UTC-5, True North wrote:
On Thursday, 28 January 2016 19:52:00 UTC-4, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 28 Jan 2016 14:42:48 -0800 (PST), True North wrote:


The John flushes...

"I've had both dogs poop twice in one walk. Takes some dexterity getting all that in
one pamphlet bag!"

Say what?
Two dogs and one doggy bag". What kind of idiocy is that.
I always carry at least three for one dog...just in case.
Y'all are as crazy as the bedbugs!

Call names, Don. That supports your position.

I'm glad to hear you need three bags, just in case. Brush up on your dexterity and
you'll be able to get by with one easily.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Exactly what name did I call anyone? Your given name is John...isn't it?
Why do y'all work so hard to be disagreeable?


You are not bright enough to be successfully disingenuous.

He's not bright enough, period.

Justan Olphart[_2_] January 29th 16 02:30 PM

Tell a lie often enough
 
On 1/29/2016 8:13 AM, True North wrote:
The John flushes...

"Yes it would. My neighbor and I share an order from Uline. He uses the bags for his
*big* Doberman. No problem. These guys hold a lot.

http://www.uline.com/Product/Detail/...OrderHistory=Y

They come in sets of 100 and hang on a doorknob or hook so they're easy to rip off.
Because they're made to drop newspapers in, one side of the top opening is lower than
the other. That makes them very easy to open, even with cold, cold fingers (which you
never get to experience)."


But...are they biodegradable? Otherwise you're just part of the problem.

What's your method to pick up dog **** and dispose of it. As much detail
as possible please. There are a lot of dog owners here who would like to
know. Here's your chance to post something useful. Please don't disappoint.


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