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Flint Michigan ... do I have to say anything else.
You have a democratic mayor, a republican governor and the EPA. It is hard to point the finger at anyone in particular but the government has clearly failed them. My question is, way back when Flint was rolling in Detroit money, long before we heard of Michael Moore, why didn't they replace those lead pipes? We knew lead pipe was bad when I was a kid. They also knew about acid rain and the effect of low pH water on lead. My water here, pretty much does not touch any kind of metal until it hits the faucet. |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:42:44 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 1/23/16 4:26 PM, wrote: Flint Michigan ... do I have to say anything else. You have a democratic mayor, a republican governor and the EPA. It is hard to point the finger at anyone in particular but the government has clearly failed them. My question is, way back when Flint was rolling in Detroit money, long before we heard of Michael Moore, why didn't they replace those lead pipes? We knew lead pipe was bad when I was a kid. They also knew about acid rain and the effect of low pH water on lead. My water here, pretty much does not touch any kind of metal until it hits the faucet. "LANSING, Mich. (NYT) A top aide to Michigans governor referred to people raising questions about the quality of Flints water as an anti-everything group. Other critics were accused of turning complaints about water into a political football. And worrisome findings about lead by a concerned pediatrician were dismissed as data, in quotes. "That view of how the administration of Gov. Rick Snyder initially dealt with the water crisis in the poverty-stricken, black-majority city of Flint emerged from 274 pages of emails, made public by the governor on Wednesday." Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. More KrauseSheisse. They are doing everything in their power to lay the blame on the Republican governor. APRIL 2014: In an effort to save money, Flint begins drawing its water from the Flint River instead of relying on water from Detroit. JANUARY 2015: ...Flint insists its water is safe. FEB. 3: State officials pledge $2 million for Flint's troubled water system. MARCH 19: Flint promises to spend $2.24 million on immediate improvements to its water supply. MARCH 27: Flint officials say the quality of its water has improved and that testing finds the water meets all state and federal standards for safety. SEPT. 24: A group of doctors led by Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha of Hurley Medical Center urges Flint to stop using the Flint River for water after finding high levels of lead in the blood of children.... Sounds like Flint brought on its own problems. Flint seems to have problems in other areas also. Wonder if those are also the fault of the Republican governor...or could it be the mayor? http://www.businessinsider.com/why-i...ngerous-2013-6 -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:42:44 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/23/16 4:26 PM, wrote: Flint Michigan ... do I have to say anything else. You have a democratic mayor, a republican governor and the EPA. It is hard to point the finger at anyone in particular but the government has clearly failed them. My question is, way back when Flint was rolling in Detroit money, long before we heard of Michael Moore, why didn't they replace those lead pipes? We knew lead pipe was bad when I was a kid. They also knew about acid rain and the effect of low pH water on lead. My water here, pretty much does not touch any kind of metal until it hits the faucet. "LANSING, Mich. (NYT) — A top aide to Michigan’s governor referred to people raising questions about the quality of Flint’s water as an “anti-everything group.” Other critics were accused of turning complaints about water into a “political football.” And worrisome findings about lead by a concerned pediatrician were dismissed as “data,” in quotes. "That view of how the administration of Gov. Rick Snyder initially dealt with the water crisis in the poverty-stricken, black-majority city of Flint emerged from 274 pages of emails, made public by the governor on Wednesday." snipped bull**** Flint, Michigan (CNN)The Environmental Protection Agency's regional administrator for Flint, Michigan, has resigned, the agency said in a statement Thursday. "EPA Region 5 Administrator Susan Hedman has offered her resignation effective February 1, and EPA Administrator Gina McCarthy has accepted given Susan's strong interest in ensuring that EPA Region 5's focus remains solely on the restoration of Flint's drinking water," the agency said. In late June, then-Flint Mayor Dayne Walling wrote to Hedman, seeking information about the issue of lead in Flint's drinking water. She essentially shot him down in her response. "The preliminary draft report should not have been released outside the agency. When the report has been revised and fully vetted by EPA management, the findings and recommendations will be shared with the City and MDEQ (Michigan Department of Environmental Quality) -- and MDEQ will be responsible for following up with the City," Hedman wrote. She had also fallen under fire for allegedly retaliating against EPA employees involved in investigating sexual harassment cases. |
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On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:04:44 -0500, John H.
wrote: On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:42:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/16 4:26 PM, wrote: Flint Michigan ... do I have to say anything else. You have a democratic mayor, a republican governor and the EPA. It is hard to point the finger at anyone in particular but the government has clearly failed them. My question is, way back when Flint was rolling in Detroit money, long before we heard of Michael Moore, why didn't they replace those lead pipes? We knew lead pipe was bad when I was a kid. They also knew about acid rain and the effect of low pH water on lead. My water here, pretty much does not touch any kind of metal until it hits the faucet. "LANSING, Mich. (NYT) — A top aide to Michigan’s governor referred to people raising questions about the quality of Flint’s water as an “anti-everything group.” Other critics were accused of turning complaints about water into a “political football.” And worrisome findings about lead by a concerned pediatrician were dismissed as “data,” in quotes. "That view of how the administration of Gov. Rick Snyder initially dealt with the water crisis in the poverty-stricken, black-majority city of Flint emerged from 274 pages of emails, made public by the governor on Wednesday." Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. More KrauseSheisse. They are doing everything in their power to lay the blame on the Republican governor. APRIL 2014: In an effort to save money, Flint begins drawing its water from the Flint River instead of relying on water from Detroit. JANUARY 2015: ...Flint insists its water is safe. FEB. 3: State officials pledge $2 million for Flint's troubled water system. MARCH 19: Flint promises to spend $2.24 million on immediate improvements to its water supply. MARCH 27: Flint officials say the quality of its water has improved and that testing finds the water meets all state and federal standards for safety. SEPT. 24: A group of doctors led by Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha of Hurley Medical Center urges Flint to stop using the Flint River for water after finding high levels of lead in the blood of children.... Sounds like Flint brought on its own problems. Flint seems to have problems in other areas also. Wonder if those are also the fault of the Republican governor...or could it be the mayor? http://www.businessinsider.com/why-i...ngerous-2013-6 This problem is actually 100 years old and they have ignored it for at least 50 of them when lead water pipes were identified as being dangerous, particularly with low pH water from "acid rain". Lead was such a problem that it was banned in paint in the 60s and they started moving away from lead solder in copper piping. I was already using lead free solder in 1976 when I put on my addition. That is an indefinitely small exposure when compared to the entire pipe being lead. Flint and all of Michigan was rolling in money at that time and they could have afforded to replace the pipes. |
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On 1/23/2016 7:01 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 18:04:44 -0500, John H. wrote: On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 17:42:44 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/23/16 4:26 PM, wrote: Flint Michigan ... do I have to say anything else. You have a democratic mayor, a republican governor and the EPA. It is hard to point the finger at anyone in particular but the government has clearly failed them. My question is, way back when Flint was rolling in Detroit money, long before we heard of Michael Moore, why didn't they replace those lead pipes? We knew lead pipe was bad when I was a kid. They also knew about acid rain and the effect of low pH water on lead. My water here, pretty much does not touch any kind of metal until it hits the faucet. "LANSING, Mich. (NYT) — A top aide to Michigan’s governor referred to people raising questions about the quality of Flint’s water as an “anti-everything group.” Other critics were accused of turning complaints about water into a “political football.” And worrisome findings about lead by a concerned pediatrician were dismissed as “data,” in quotes. "That view of how the administration of Gov. Rick Snyder initially dealt with the water crisis in the poverty-stricken, black-majority city of Flint emerged from 274 pages of emails, made public by the governor on Wednesday." Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. More KrauseSheisse. They are doing everything in their power to lay the blame on the Republican governor. APRIL 2014: In an effort to save money, Flint begins drawing its water from the Flint River instead of relying on water from Detroit. JANUARY 2015: ...Flint insists its water is safe. FEB. 3: State officials pledge $2 million for Flint's troubled water system. MARCH 19: Flint promises to spend $2.24 million on immediate improvements to its water supply. MARCH 27: Flint officials say the quality of its water has improved and that testing finds the water meets all state and federal standards for safety. SEPT. 24: A group of doctors led by Dr. Mona Hanna-Attisha of Hurley Medical Center urges Flint to stop using the Flint River for water after finding high levels of lead in the blood of children.... Sounds like Flint brought on its own problems. Flint seems to have problems in other areas also. Wonder if those are also the fault of the Republican governor...or could it be the mayor? http://www.businessinsider.com/why-i...ngerous-2013-6 This problem is actually 100 years old and they have ignored it for at least 50 of them when lead water pipes were identified as being dangerous, particularly with low pH water from "acid rain". Lead was such a problem that it was banned in paint in the 60s and they started moving away from lead solder in copper piping. I was already using lead free solder in 1976 when I put on my addition. That is an indefinitely small exposure when compared to the entire pipe being lead. Flint and all of Michigan was rolling in money at that time and they could have afforded to replace the pipes. Perhaps they opted to have more lead in their pencils instead of dealing with a serious issue. |
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On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Sze wrote:
Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... |
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On 1/24/16 9:05 AM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Sze wrote: Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... Well, there are always the old reliable Bristol Palin abstaining jokes... |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:09:53 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote:
On 1/24/16 9:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Sze wrote: Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... Well, there are always the old reliable Bristol Palin abstaining jokes... Make your stupid comments, but we know that two Democrat mayors let the problem slide right on by. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:47:29 -0500, John H.
wrote: Back to the original question...which ghettos are not governed by Democrats? That includes Flint, MI. === Scottsdale, Arizona? |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:09:53 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/24/16 9:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... Well, there are always the old reliable Bristol Palin abstaining jokes... Both are off topic brain farts |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:09:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... Well, there are always the old reliable Bristol Palin abstaining jokes... Both are off topic brain farts I don't know Snyder but certainly the palins are brainfarts. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:25:57 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:09:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... Well, there are always the old reliable Bristol Palin abstaining jokes... Both are off topic brain farts I don't know Snyder but certainly the palins are brainfarts. Did Palin have anything to do with Flint's water problem? |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:24:27 -0500, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:03:25 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 10:47:29 -0500, John H. wrote: Back to the original question...which ghettos are not governed by Democrats? That includes Flint, MI. === Scottsdale, Arizona? The last time I was in Scottsdale it was a golf course community with horses. === Yes, precisely. And that's why it's not governed by Democrats - a ghetto of wealthy land owners. |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:49:19 -0500, Keyser Sze
wrote: On 1/24/16 12:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:25:57 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:09:53 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Sze wrote: Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... Well, there are always the old reliable Bristol Palin abstaining jokes... Both are off topic brain farts I don't know Snyder but certainly the palins are brainfarts. Did Palin have anything to do with Flint's water problem? Her political philosophy did... === Damn, I just knew it was somehow her fault. She probably told the EPA to just let it go since the state and city didn't seem to know any better. |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:47:55 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/24/16 12:13 PM, wrote: The Flint leaders have been somewhat sheltered from the blame by their incompetence. When the city was on the verge of bankruptcy, the state took over so they shoulder a lot of the blame. It is really just the bureaucracy tho. They jumped on the easy answer without actually understanding the unintended consequences and denying the dangers, even when the evidence was presented. That blame goes all the way from city hall in Flint to the EPA in Washington. The GOVERNMENT failed these people, top to bottom. The real crime here was ignoring the dangers of lead pipe. I remember in high school (62 or 63) hearing that the Romans may have been a little stupider than they should have been because they were using lead in their water system. The acid rain issue came up in the early 70s. The dangers of low pH water and lead pipe were well known by then. The state took over Flint sort of like it took over Detroit, and it wanted to save $$$; thus the switch from safe water to the dirty river water, and the state pooh-poohed the dangers. So did the EPA, in fact the local EPA director is resigning over it. The problem is they did not ask the right questions and when they heard the answer they wanted, they went. The water in the river was safe to drink but nobody asked what the effect on their 19th century water system the low pH would have. The river water is not where the problem came from, it was the lead pipe in the system. You can try to point the finger anywhere you want but the government failed these people from top to bottom. |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:49:19 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/24/16 12:47 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:25:57 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:09:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... Well, there are always the old reliable Bristol Palin abstaining jokes... Both are off topic brain farts I don't know Snyder but certainly the palins are brainfarts. Did Palin have anything to do with Flint's water problem? Her political philosophy did... It is pretty hard to call her babbling "philosophy" but I understand you are obsessed with her so carry on. |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. |
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On 1/24/16 4:56 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:47:55 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 12:13 PM, wrote: The Flint leaders have been somewhat sheltered from the blame by their incompetence. When the city was on the verge of bankruptcy, the state took over so they shoulder a lot of the blame. It is really just the bureaucracy tho. They jumped on the easy answer without actually understanding the unintended consequences and denying the dangers, even when the evidence was presented. That blame goes all the way from city hall in Flint to the EPA in Washington. The GOVERNMENT failed these people, top to bottom. The real crime here was ignoring the dangers of lead pipe. I remember in high school (62 or 63) hearing that the Romans may have been a little stupider than they should have been because they were using lead in their water system. The acid rain issue came up in the early 70s. The dangers of low pH water and lead pipe were well known by then. The state took over Flint sort of like it took over Detroit, and it wanted to save $$$; thus the switch from safe water to the dirty river water, and the state pooh-poohed the dangers. So did the EPA, in fact the local EPA director is resigning over it. The problem is they did not ask the right questions and when they heard the answer they wanted, they went. The water in the river was safe to drink but nobody asked what the effect on their 19th century water system the low pH would have. The river water is not where the problem came from, it was the lead pipe in the system. You can try to point the finger anywhere you want but the government failed these people from top to bottom. The problem is the governor took over the local government and made some interesting decisions in order to save money. |
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On 1/24/2016 12:25 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 09:09:53 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:05 AM, Tim wrote: On Saturday, January 23, 2016 at 4:42:47 PM UTC-6, Keyser Söze wrote: Perhaps the Snyder administration thought it would be easier, more efficient and cheaper to poison and kill mass numbers of blacks rather than have the police do it one at a time. Hey Harry, the day's just started. Do you think you can make a statement lower than that? Bet you can..... Well, there are always the old reliable Bristol Palin abstaining jokes... Both are off topic brain farts I don't know Snyder but certainly the palins are brainfarts. You know the Palins. How where when and why did you meet? |
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On 1/24/16 6:51 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/24/16 4:56 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:47:55 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 12:13 PM, wrote: The Flint leaders have been somewhat sheltered from the blame by their incompetence. When the city was on the verge of bankruptcy, the state took over so they shoulder a lot of the blame. It is really just the bureaucracy tho. They jumped on the easy answer without actually understanding the unintended consequences and denying the dangers, even when the evidence was presented. That blame goes all the way from city hall in Flint to the EPA in Washington. The GOVERNMENT failed these people, top to bottom. The real crime here was ignoring the dangers of lead pipe. I remember in high school (62 or 63) hearing that the Romans may have been a little stupider than they should have been because they were using lead in their water system. The acid rain issue came up in the early 70s. The dangers of low pH water and lead pipe were well known by then. The state took over Flint sort of like it took over Detroit, and it wanted to save $$$; thus the switch from safe water to the dirty river water, and the state pooh-poohed the dangers. So did the EPA, in fact the local EPA director is resigning over it. The problem is they did not ask the right questions and when they heard the answer they wanted, they went. The water in the river was safe to drink but nobody asked what the effect on their 19th century water system the low pH would have. The river water is not where the problem came from, it was the lead pipe in the system. You can try to point the finger anywhere you want but the government failed these people from top to bottom. The problem is the governor took over the local government and made some interesting decisions in order to save money. On January 22, in response to an emergency order issued by the United States Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) over the Flint water crisis, Michigan’s Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) Director, Keith Creagh, wrote that the state is questioning whether the EPA has “legal authority” to “order a state and its agencies” to act to protect the health of its citizens. The order, issued by the EPA on Thursday, states: “The Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) provides the US Environmental Protection Agency with the authority to order actions when an imminent and substantial endangerment exists and the actions taken by the state/and or local authorities are inadequate to protect public health. EPA has determined that the city of Flint and the state of Michigan’s responses to the drinking water crisis in Flint have been inadequate to protect public health and that these failures continue. As a result, the EPA is issuing this emergency order to make sure that the necessary actions to protect public health happen immediately.” - - - SNERK. |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/24/16 6:51 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 4:56 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 12:47:55 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 12:13 PM, wrote: The Flint leaders have been somewhat sheltered from the blame by their incompetence. When the city was on the verge of bankruptcy, the state took over so they shoulder a lot of the blame. It is really just the bureaucracy tho. They jumped on the easy answer without actually understanding the unintended consequences and denying the dangers, even when the evidence was presented. That blame goes all the way from city hall in Flint to the EPA in Washington. The GOVERNMENT failed these people, top to bottom. The real crime here was ignoring the dangers of lead pipe. I remember in high school (62 or 63) hearing that the Romans may have been a little stupider than they should have been because they were using lead in their water system. The acid rain issue came up in the early 70s. The dangers of low pH water and lead pipe were well known by then. The state took over Flint sort of like it took over Detroit, and it wanted to save $$$; thus the switch from safe water to the dirty river water, and the state pooh-poohed the dangers. So did the EPA, in fact the local EPA director is resigning over it. The problem is they did not ask the right questions and when they heard the answer they wanted, they went. The water in the river was safe to drink but nobody asked what the effect on their 19th century water system the low pH would have. The river water is not where the problem came from, it was the lead pipe in the system. You can try to point the finger anywhere you want but the government failed these people from top to bottom. The problem is the governor took over the local government and made some interesting decisions in order to save money. On January 22, - - - SNERK. You still ignore the fact that they approved it in the first place. The EPA acted LAST ****ING FRIDAY to fix it. Two years later! |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: SNERK. Maybe you should read this and see how they got to 2014 It is certainly more complicated than just the receiver saving a few bucks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_...source_in_2014 |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: SNERK. Maybe you should read this and see how they got to 2014 It is certainly more complicated than just the receiver saving a few bucks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_...source_in_2014 I don't need Wikipedia to know what happened in Flint, and how the situation got worse under Governor Snyder. I still have political friends in Michigan. |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:46:10 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 1/24/16 9:41 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: SNERK. Maybe you should read this and see how they got to 2014 It is certainly more complicated than just the receiver saving a few bucks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_...source_in_2014 I don't need Wikipedia to know what happened in Flint, and how the situation got worse under Governor Snyder. I still have political friends in Michigan. Good, then you know this cluster**** started in 2010 when Jennifer was the governor. |
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says... On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:46:10 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:41 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: SNERK. Maybe you should read this and see how they got to 2014 It is certainly more complicated than just the receiver saving a few bucks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_...source_in_2014 I don't need Wikipedia to know what happened in Flint, and how the situation got worse under Governor Snyder. I still have political friends in Michigan. Good, then you know this cluster**** started in 2010 when Jennifer was the governor. Are you sure it's not Harry Truman's fault? |
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:52:35 -0600, Boating All Out
wrote: In article , says... On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:46:10 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:41 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: SNERK. Maybe you should read this and see how they got to 2014 It is certainly more complicated than just the receiver saving a few bucks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_...source_in_2014 I don't need Wikipedia to know what happened in Flint, and how the situation got worse under Governor Snyder. I still have political friends in Michigan. Good, then you know this cluster**** started in 2010 when Jennifer was the governor. Are you sure it's not Harry Truman's fault? I suppose you might find some obscure link because Michigan politics have been dirty for at least a century. I was just going back to the original plan to stop using Detroit water. It is interesting that the Detroit water system actually cut Flint off because they planned to go to another lake Huron source, that was running behind schedule and they were forced to find water in the short term from an existing but unused Flint river pipe. That is not exactly what you read on KOS or wherever Harry got his rant. The "cost saving" that was planned was planned before the current governor took office in 2010. |
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On 1/24/16 10:52 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:46:10 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:41 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: SNERK. Maybe you should read this and see how they got to 2014 It is certainly more complicated than just the receiver saving a few bucks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_...source_in_2014 I don't need Wikipedia to know what happened in Flint, and how the situation got worse under Governor Snyder. I still have political friends in Michigan. Good, then you know this cluster**** started in 2010 when Jennifer was the governor. Are you sure it's not Harry Truman's fault? The current governor there is guilty of malfeasance and nonfeasance, and the state will face huge lawsuits. |
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On 1/25/2016 7:08 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:43 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. And the Democrat mayor. Harry has a special, custom app that absolves any any and all Democrats. |
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On 1/24/2016 9:46 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 1/24/16 9:41 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: SNERK. Maybe you should read this and see how they got to 2014 It is certainly more complicated than just the receiver saving a few bucks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_...source_in_2014 I don't need Wikipedia to know what happened in Flint, and how the situation got worse under Governor Snyder. I still have political friends in Michigan. Ahhh!!! Then you can go directly to thee root of the problem. |
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On 1/24/2016 10:52 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:46:10 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: On 1/24/16 9:41 PM, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 19:37:26 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: SNERK. Maybe you should read this and see how they got to 2014 It is certainly more complicated than just the receiver saving a few bucks. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flint_...source_in_2014 I don't need Wikipedia to know what happened in Flint, and how the situation got worse under Governor Snyder. I still have political friends in Michigan. Good, then you know this cluster**** started in 2010 when Jennifer was the governor. Are you sure it's not Harry Truman's fault? Truman. A stand up guy. He's not the kind of weasel that would come out of the gate blaming his predecessor for everything and apologizing for America. |
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On 1/25/2016 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/25/2016 7:08 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:43 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. And the Democrat mayor. Harry has a special, custom app that absolves any any and all Democrats. Did his rabbi or parish priest give him license to that app? |
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On 1/25/16 9:08 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 1/25/2016 7:08 AM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:59:43 -0500, wrote: On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 16:20:58 -0500, Keyser Sze wrote: You of course miss the point. The point is that it is a governmental requirement in this country to provide potable water. The Republican led government of Michigan failed Flint. So did the democrat led EPA. You keep glazing over that. And the Democrat mayor. Harry has a special, custom app that absolves any any and all Democrats. The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. |
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8:53 AMKeyser Sze
- show quoted text - The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. ......... Really? I thought you said he did it to kill off black folks. Pretty sure you did... |
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Tim wrote:
8:53 AMKeyser Söze - show quoted text - The Republican governor of Michigan has total charge and complete responsibility for Flint. He controls it. There's an interesting news story circulating that states the Detroit water company was willing to cut Flint a terrific deal on the price of water, one that would have avoided using the Flint river, but the governor nixed that because he wants to put financial pressure on the publicly owned Detroit company in order to privatize it. ........ Really? I thought you said he did it to kill off black folks. Pretty sure you did... D'oh. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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