On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:


See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging
on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar
Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to
the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the
entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst
are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for
the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow
Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in
Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965
July.

The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too!

We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion,
Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular!
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On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:


See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging
on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar
Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to
the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the
entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst
are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for
the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow
Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in
Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965
July.

The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too!

We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion,
Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of
doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:05:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:


See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging
on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar
Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to
the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the
entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst
are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for
the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow
Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in
Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965
July.

The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too!

We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion,
Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of
doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way.

I used to work with an AZ National Guard unit in Flagstaff, so I got to see the south
rim a few times. I like the North Rim much, much more. Several lookouts, nice
trails, great facilities. If you plan to stay at the lodge or cabins at the park,
make reservations early - like now!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

On 11/30/2015 9:42 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:05:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:


See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging
on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar
Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to
the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the
entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst
are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for
the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow
Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in
Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965
July.

The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too!

We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion,
Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!





How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of

doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way.
I used to work with an AZ National Guard unit in Flagstaff, so I got to see the south
rim a few times. I like the North Rim much, much more. Several lookouts, nice
trails, great facilities. If you plan to stay at the lodge or cabins at the park,
make reservations early - like now!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping
spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?

Justan Olphart wrote:
On 11/30/2015 9:42 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:05:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:


See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging
on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar
Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to
the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the
entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst
are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for
the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow
Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in
Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965
July.

The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too!

We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion,
Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!





How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of

doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way.
I used to work with an AZ National Guard unit in Flagstaff, so I got to see the south
rim a few times. I like the North Rim much, much more. Several lookouts, nice
trails, great facilities. If you plan to stay at the lodge or cabins at the park,
make reservations early - like now!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping
spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?


Lots of BLM land open to camping in the west.

On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 11:57:02 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/30/2015 9:42 AM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 30 Nov 2015 09:05:23 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 11/30/2015 8:51 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 20:26:40 -0800, Califbill billnews wrote:


See Tim has earned a lifestyle change. Good luck Tim. Still FOAD bragging
on his omnipresence. Went to Williams, AZ for a few days to ride the Polar
Express with the granddaughters. 5-5-7. Was fun. Took a day trip up to
the Grand Canyon. Nice hole in the earth still. Big herd of elk by the
entrance. Seemed to be all does. Hunting season open, so maybe the Bakst
are hiding. Long drive. About 1500 miles total. Did take a few days for
the drive. If go next year, may fly to Vegas and rent a car. Did snow
Friday for the train ride. Rest of the time cold. Last times I was in
Williams, Route 66 still ran through the town. 1964 January. And 1965
July.

The Polar Express sounds like fun. I like that 15% military discount too!

We did the Utah trip a few years back with our first RV. Saw Bryce Canyon, Zion,
Arches, Canyonland, and North Rim national parks. Spectacular!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!





How was the north rim compared to the south rim? We were thinking of

doing it but it seemed to be a bit out of the way.
I used to work with an AZ National Guard unit in Flagstaff, so I got to see the south
rim a few times. I like the North Rim much, much more. Several lookouts, nice
trails, great facilities. If you plan to stay at the lodge or cabins at the park,
make reservations early - like now!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping
spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?

We spent only one night at the North Rim Lodge. Parked the camper (19'er and 4Runner)
in the parking lot. I'm pretty sure you could put the MH in a parking lot and
disconnect the toad to get around in. That's what we did with the trailer.

There are, pretty close:

North Rim CG http://www.nps.gov/grca/planyourvisit/cg-nr.htm
Jacob Lake CG http://tinyurl.com/43aar53
Demotte CG http://tinyurl.com/6t6xosp
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Ban idiots, not guns!

Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping
spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?"


"with toad"??
Who would the "toad" be.......you?

True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping
spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?"


"with toad"??
Who would the "toad" be.......you?


Give it up, asshole.

True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping
spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?"


"with toad"??
Who would the "toad" be.......you?


It is RV for towed vehicle. Get a brain.

On 11/30/15 5:34 PM, True North wrote:
Justan Olphart
- show quoted text -
"We be campers. 13 feet high and 57 feet long with toad. Any camping
spots nearby and accessible which could accommodate?"


"with toad"??
Who would the "toad" be.......you?


I think the word is "RV'ese" for the little cars the monster RVs tow
behind them, making them even more of an annoyance on the highways. RVs
are among the worst annoyances on the interstates...big, bulky,
sometimes really lousy drivers, and then two of them in front of you
pull into the passing lanes. Even worse on the two or three lane state
roads. There ought to be laws that require them to stay in the right
hand lane, period.