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On 11/21/2015 2:01 AM, wrote:[color=blue][i]
On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 03:20:11 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049253 Wrote: On 11/20/15 1:34 PM, wrote:- On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:48:06 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpjej4OhXc- In 1995, Timothy McVeigh, a white Christian terrorist born in the USA detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and injuring more than 600. That's...one...guy. I do get a chuckle over how the gut nutsies minimize the mass murders committed with guns. I guess those killings don't count because...guns. Timothy McVeigh would himself seem to dispute your calling him a Christian. He himself said: In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would "improvise, adapt and overcome", if it turned out there was an afterlife. "If I'm going to hell," he wrote, "I'm gonna have a lot of company." His body is to be cremated and his ashes scattered in a secret location. http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...1/mcveigh.usa4 So, I guess that would make him an Agnostic Terrorist. I agree with your assessment that his bombing of the Oklahoma federal building was an act of terrorism by definition. Gee without the religious connection, Harry's rant really starts falling apart. I guess I can agree that McVeigh was a terrorist, although not in the same sense as an organization like ISIS. The loss of life is horrific and the same but once he was caught, it ended. I interpret "terrorism" as having the added component of knowing it is likely to occur again, by the same people. Not knowing how, where or when is what defines it as terrorism. |
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On 11/21/15 2:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:[color=blue][i]
On 11/21/2015 2:01 AM, wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 03:20:11 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049253 Wrote: On 11/20/15 1:34 PM, wrote:- On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:48:06 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpjej4OhXc- In 1995, Timothy McVeigh, a white Christian terrorist born in the USA detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and injuring more than 600. That's...one...guy. I do get a chuckle over how the gut nutsies minimize the mass murders committed with guns. I guess those killings don't count because...guns. Timothy McVeigh would himself seem to dispute your calling him a Christian. He himself said: In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would "improvise, adapt and overcome", if it turned out there was an afterlife. "If I'm going to hell," he wrote, "I'm gonna have a lot of company." His body is to be cremated and his ashes scattered in a secret location. http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...1/mcveigh.usa4 So, I guess that would make him an Agnostic Terrorist. I agree with your assessment that his bombing of the Oklahoma federal building was an act of terrorism by definition. Gee without the religious connection, Harry's rant really starts falling apart. I guess I can agree that McVeigh was a terrorist, although not in the same sense as an organization like ISIS. The loss of life is horrific and the same but once he was caught, it ended. I interpret "terrorism" as having the added component of knowing it is likely to occur again, by the same people. Not knowing how, where or when is what defines it as terrorism. We just never know when the next American with firearms will shoot up and kill 20 people in a school in the latest act of terrorism. |
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Keyser Söze wrote:[color=blue][i]
On 11/21/15 2:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/21/2015 2:01 AM, wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 03:20:11 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049253 Wrote: On 11/20/15 1:34 PM, wrote:- On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:48:06 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpjej4OhXc- In 1995, Timothy McVeigh, a white Christian terrorist born in the USA detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and injuring more than 600. That's...one...guy. I do get a chuckle over how the gut nutsies minimize the mass murders committed with guns. I guess those killings don't count because...guns. Timothy McVeigh would himself seem to dispute your calling him a Christian. He himself said: In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would "improvise, adapt and overcome", if it turned out there was an afterlife. "If I'm going to hell," he wrote, "I'm gonna have a lot of company." His body is to be cremated and his ashes scattered in a secret location. http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...1/mcveigh.usa4 So, I guess that would make him an Agnostic Terrorist. I agree with your assessment that his bombing of the Oklahoma federal building was an act of terrorism by definition. Gee without the religious connection, Harry's rant really starts falling apart. I guess I can agree that McVeigh was a terrorist, although not in the same sense as an organization like ISIS. The loss of life is horrific and the same but once he was caught, it ended. I interpret "terrorism" as having the added component of knowing it is likely to occur again, by the same people. Not knowing how, where or when is what defines it as terrorism. We just never know when the next American with firearms will shoot up and kill 20 people in a school in the latest act of terrorism. Might be one of yours, 'eh? You never know... |
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On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 21:56:49 -0500, Jerry Sauk wrote:
[color=blue][i] Keyser Söze wrote: On 11/21/15 2:54 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 11/21/2015 2:01 AM, wrote: On Sat, 21 Nov 2015 03:20:11 +0000, RGrew176 wrote: Keyser Söze;1049253 Wrote: On 11/20/15 1:34 PM, wrote:- On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 11:48:06 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSpjej4OhXc- In 1995, Timothy McVeigh, a white Christian terrorist born in the USA detonated a truck bomb in front of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, killing 168 people and injuring more than 600. That's...one...guy. I do get a chuckle over how the gut nutsies minimize the mass murders committed with guns. I guess those killings don't count because...guns. Timothy McVeigh would himself seem to dispute your calling him a Christian. He himself said: In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would "improvise, adapt and overcome", if it turned out there was an afterlife. "If I'm going to hell," he wrote, "I'm gonna have a lot of company." His body is to be cremated and his ashes scattered in a secret location. http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...1/mcveigh.usa4 So, I guess that would make him an Agnostic Terrorist. I agree with your assessment that his bombing of the Oklahoma federal building was an act of terrorism by definition. Gee without the religious connection, Harry's rant really starts falling apart. I guess I can agree that McVeigh was a terrorist, although not in the same sense as an organization like ISIS. The loss of life is horrific and the same but once he was caught, it ended. I interpret "terrorism" as having the added component of knowing it is likely to occur again, by the same people. Not knowing how, where or when is what defines it as terrorism. We just never know when the next American with firearms will shoot up and kill 20 people in a school in the latest act of terrorism. Might be one of yours, 'eh? You never know... I cannot understand the logic Harry uses to justify the atrocities of ISIS and the other fanatic Muslim groups based on the shootings that have occurred in this country by nutcases. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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