On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.

On 10/16/15 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.


Right, it's hard to compete with those libertarian countries where there
are few or no standards for labor cost, worker safety, or the
environment.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:04:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/16/15 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.


Right, it's hard to compete with those libertarian countries where there
are few or no standards for labor cost, worker safety, or the
environment.

You don't have a clue do you?

The democrats want to be more like those countries with a government
that controls the means of production and micro manages every aspect
of everyone's life.

On 10/16/15 11:14 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 11:04:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/16/15 10:56 AM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.


Right, it's hard to compete with those libertarian countries where there
are few or no standards for labor cost, worker safety, or the
environment.

You don't have a clue do you?

The democrats want to be more like those countries with a government
that controls the means of production and micro manages every aspect
of everyone's life.



The Democratic Party has no interest in the government "controlling" the
means of production or "managing" every aspect of everyone's life. I get
a lot of "snail mail" and electronic mailings from Democratic Party
sources and affinity groups, and even from a couple of self-described
"socialist" organizations, and none of them are talking the nonsense you
bring up here.

You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.

I will grant you, however, that the United States is headed either
towards a revolution or a serious restructuring. This country cannot be
sustained if 99% of everything is owned/controlled by the wealthiest 3%.

On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:09:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.


Harry seems to think that a degree he got during the Nixon
administration from a college nobody has ever heard of, allows him to
denigrate others.

On 10/16/15 2:26 PM, wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 13:09:50 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 10/16/2015 11:47 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:


You need to expand your horizons and stop paying so much attention to
libertarian nonsense and right-wing media. Perhaps you can audit a local
university liberal arts course in critical thinking.



There you go again.


Harry seems to think that a degree he got during the Nixon
administration from a college nobody has ever heard of, allows him to
denigrate others.



I got my first college degree during the Johnson Administration and my
second during the Nixon Administration. The concepts of and teaching of
courses in critical thinking haven't changed, and, considering your
earlier post in this thread, you might benefit from those courses.

wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.


Here is a link to video on the process. My dad did part of the building on
the original car shredder back in the 70's. Said had the biggest amount of
rebar and concrete in the base.
http://www.schnitzersteel.com/metals...g_process.aspx

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 08:33:39 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.


Here is a link to video on the process. My dad did part of the building on
the original car shredder back in the 70's. Said had the biggest amount of
rebar and concrete in the base.
http://www.schnitzersteel.com/metals...g_process.aspx


There seems to be a lot of labor in the picking process there and it
still looks like a pretty expensive process. That machine isn't cheap.
It is easy to see why "clean" copper and aluminum can get a better
price at the scrap yard.
..

On Fri, 16 Oct 2015 06:59:00 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Now metals are fed into huge shredders to fill export containers

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lXfitusZ9qY

That is mixed scrap, not near as valuable as sorted (clean) metals.
I assume that waste stream goes through magnetic separation at least
but you still need a way to separate aluminum and copper from the
plastic and glass.
That is easier done in a 3d world plant where labor cost, worker
safety and environmental concerns are not as important.
.......
Greg, that's true, but with modern techniques, thee are easier ways to separate metals then ever, so mixed becomes in-mixed in better fashion than say 20 years ago