On Thu, 15 Oct 2015 12:11:00 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

I watched a report on MSNBC earlier today that blew my mind.

It focused on a port in California that handles 40 percent of
our import and export shipments to and from China.

First item of surprise:

60 percent of the containers loaded with merchandise imported from
China are returned to China ... empty.

But the biggest surprise is what we are exporting *to* China in huge
qualities.

Trash.

The report showed mountains of recyclable plastic bottles, cardboard,
scrap metal and other trash items that are loaded up and set to China.
China's workers recycle it, making insulated clothing items from the
plastic bottles and cardboard and items like smartphones from the scrap
aluminum and metals, then ship them back to the USA for sale back to us.


It does make the TPP far more important that simply a flip flopping
position for candidates.

It is really pretty hard to figure out exactly who the winners and
losers will be. They talk using the normal political rhetoric without
actually telling us what it means. I hear more about it in the foreign
news than the US news but they tend to zero in on their particular
industries, not the overall effects. New Zealand is concentrating on
dairy, something you would have to be in Wisconsin to hear about here.