We can't do nuttin'...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/9/15 11:14 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/9/15 10:00 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
We can’t do nuttin’ about this, sez the Republicans…

Today

One fraternity member was killed and three others wounded in a fight
that escalated into a shooting early Friday near a Greek-life dorm at
Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff, Ariz.

and

One student was killed and another person was injured after someone
opened fire outside a Texas Southern University dormitory on Friday
morning, prompting a lockdown at the Houston school, officials said.


Not guns, but what is the reason there is so much more violence these days?
There were lots of firearms available when I was young. But we had a few
fisticuffs, not shooting and knifing. Look at the amount of stabbings
these days. Overall tells that is not the weapon that is the problem, but
society today. We had cowboy and Indians movies, but not a constant input
of heads blowing up in slow motion, or the popular computer games that are
ultra violent. Probably make "Mortal Combat" seem tame these days. We are
looking at the tools, not the process. Maybe all those kids that were let
off because their shrink said they had a bad childhood, are coming back to
shoot and stab their fellow man.


These "ultra violent" movies are shown all over the free world. Why are
there not the level of shootings "there" as we have here, adjusted for
population differences?

I agree with you that our society is violent. We need to do something
about that.


Lots of those ultra violent movies are censored in other lands. And you
can see lots of violence in youth in Europe. Adults also. Look at the
violence at Soccer matches. Maybe they do not let their youth get away
with claiming bad childhoods, and punish them in the formative years. They
also do not have the huge group of single parent, unwed mothers I bet.



Mass shootings, Bilious...the subject is mass shootings. Why aren't
there several mass shootings a week at schools, shopping centers,
churches, et cetera, in other modern, Western countries...the ones where
the kids see the same movies our kids see.


Not mass shootings. But mass violence. And the question is why. Look at
turkey, suicide bomber kills 80. No gun involved.

We can't do nuttin'...
 

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:29:18 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/10/15 10:23 AM, wrote:

This isn't Europe but once they assimilate a few million Syrians and
Iraqis, they may start looking a little more like us
Maybe we should be more like your buddy Castro and empty our prisons
into northwestern Europe and see how they do with a little more
diversity.



Most of our school, shopping center, movie theater shooters seem to be
the sons of 'Merican families who have been here for generations.


Those are a minuscule proportion of the murders in this country. a
Bunch of gang bangers shooting each other is hardly worth even
reporting, much less getting excited about.

Curious...why do you think Castro is my "buddy"? Where do you get these
nonsensical ideas?

He ran a socialist paradise where they has free medical care, free
college, nobody has guns and there was very little income disparity
..... everyone is poor.

Sounds like the utopia that Bernie and you are promoting.


Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about, as usual.

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We can't do nuttin'...
 

On 10/10/2015 4:02 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:29:18 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/10/15 10:23 AM, wrote:

This isn't Europe but once they assimilate a few million Syrians and
Iraqis, they may start looking a little more like us
Maybe we should be more like your buddy Castro and empty our prisons
into northwestern Europe and see how they do with a little more
diversity.



Most of our school, shopping center, movie theater shooters seem to be
the sons of 'Merican families who have been here for generations.


Those are a minuscule proportion of the murders in this country. a
Bunch of gang bangers shooting each other is hardly worth even
reporting, much less getting excited about.

Curious...why do you think Castro is my "buddy"? Where do you get these
nonsensical ideas?

He ran a socialist paradise where they has free medical care, free
college, nobody has guns and there was very little income disparity
..... everyone is poor.

Sounds like the utopia that Bernie and you are promoting.


Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about, as usual.

That's rich, coming from you.

We can't do nuttin'...
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:02:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:29:18 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/10/15 10:23 AM, wrote:

This isn't Europe but once they assimilate a few million Syrians and
Iraqis, they may start looking a little more like us
Maybe we should be more like your buddy Castro and empty our prisons
into northwestern Europe and see how they do with a little more
diversity.



Most of our school, shopping center, movie theater shooters seem to be
the sons of 'Merican families who have been here for generations.


Those are a minuscule proportion of the murders in this country. a
Bunch of gang bangers shooting each other is hardly worth even
reporting, much less getting excited about.

Curious...why do you think Castro is my "buddy"? Where do you get these
nonsensical ideas?

He ran a socialist paradise where they has free medical care, free
college, nobody has guns and there was very little income disparity
..... everyone is poor.

Sounds like the utopia that Bernie and you are promoting.


Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about, as usual.

So I guess that is another thing you will not wax on lyrically again
about. government health care and free college.

We can't do nuttin'...
 

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:02:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:29:18 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/10/15 10:23 AM, wrote:

This isn't Europe but once they assimilate a few million Syrians and
Iraqis, they may start looking a little more like us
Maybe we should be more like your buddy Castro and empty our prisons
into northwestern Europe and see how they do with a little more
diversity.



Most of our school, shopping center, movie theater shooters seem to be
the sons of 'Merican families who have been here for generations.


Those are a minuscule proportion of the murders in this country. a
Bunch of gang bangers shooting each other is hardly worth even
reporting, much less getting excited about.

Curious...why do you think Castro is my "buddy"? Where do you get these
nonsensical ideas?

He ran a socialist paradise where they has free medical care, free
college, nobody has guns and there was very little income disparity
..... everyone is poor.

Sounds like the utopia that Bernie and you are promoting.


Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about, as usual.

So I guess that is another thing you will not wax on lyrically again
about. government health care and free college.


Better we should pour our resources down the drain on the military, eh?


--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

We can't do nuttin'...
 

On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 21:44:25 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 17:02:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

wrote:
On Sat, 10 Oct 2015 10:29:18 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/10/15 10:23 AM, wrote:

This isn't Europe but once they assimilate a few million Syrians and
Iraqis, they may start looking a little more like us
Maybe we should be more like your buddy Castro and empty our prisons
into northwestern Europe and see how they do with a little more
diversity.



Most of our school, shopping center, movie theater shooters seem to be
the sons of 'Merican families who have been here for generations.


Those are a minuscule proportion of the murders in this country. a
Bunch of gang bangers shooting each other is hardly worth even
reporting, much less getting excited about.

Curious...why do you think Castro is my "buddy"? Where do you get these
nonsensical ideas?

He ran a socialist paradise where they has free medical care, free
college, nobody has guns and there was very little income disparity
..... everyone is poor.

Sounds like the utopia that Bernie and you are promoting.


Sounds like you don't know what you are talking about, as usual.

So I guess that is another thing you will not wax on lyrically again
about. government health care and free college.


Better we should pour our resources down the drain on the military, eh?

You seem to ignore the fact that DoD may be the biggest high tech jobs
program in the US along with pumping billions into the higher learning
system.
DoD appropriations processes assure that most of these jobs will not
be exported.
The VA puts even more money into education.

We can't do nuttin'...
 

On 10/11/15 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:27:37 -0400, Keyser Söze
g infrastructure.


I will give you half of that. I agree some of the money could be spent
on infrastructure but you would be trading high tech jobs for blue
collar construction jobs.
We wouldn't need as much of that education you are talking about.
You don't need a bachelors degree to run a loader.


Education is a pursuit on its own...as we have discussed before, I think
there is far more use for education than learning a trade.




The Russians and the Chinese together are still spending on their
military only a small amount of what we spend. I'm not advocating that
we eliminate military spending, but I do think we should seriously cut
back on it each year until it is at a level that is no more than half of
what we currently spend.

Their philosophy is different. They are willing to spend blood more
than money. The US wants to have a war where no GIs are killed. That
is not cheap.

It's also absurd.

We can't do nuttin'...
 

On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:19:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/11/15 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:27:37 -0400, Keyser Söze
g infrastructure.


I will give you half of that. I agree some of the money could be spent
on infrastructure but you would be trading high tech jobs for blue
collar construction jobs.
We wouldn't need as much of that education you are talking about.
You don't need a bachelors degree to run a loader.


Education is a pursuit on its own...as we have discussed before, I think
there is far more use for education than learning a trade.


When you are coming out of a university with a $50,000-100,000 student
debt load, it certainly better be something that gets you a job.
I have no interest in spending tax money to teach things that are just
handy for coffee shop conversations about things that do not return
that investment to the people.


The Russians and the Chinese together are still spending on their
military only a small amount of what we spend. I'm not advocating that
we eliminate military spending, but I do think we should seriously cut
back on it each year until it is at a level that is no more than half of
what we currently spend.

Their philosophy is different. They are willing to spend blood more
than money. The US wants to have a war where no GIs are killed. That
is not cheap.

It's also absurd.

Granted but that is the US philosophy right now. We are spending about
a half a million dollars per combatant we kill, simply because we want
to use robot weapons manned by a guy who is safely ensconced in South
Dakota.

We can't do nuttin'...
 

On 10/11/15 12:22 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:19:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/11/15 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:27:37 -0400, Keyser Söze
g infrastructure.


I will give you half of that. I agree some of the money could be spent
on infrastructure but you would be trading high tech jobs for blue
collar construction jobs.
We wouldn't need as much of that education you are talking about.
You don't need a bachelors degree to run a loader.


Education is a pursuit on its own...as we have discussed before, I think
there is far more use for education than learning a trade.


When you are coming out of a university with a $50,000-100,000 student
debt load, it certainly better be something that gets you a job.
I have no interest in spending tax money to teach things that are just
handy for coffee shop conversations about things that do not return
that investment to the people.


So I presume that means you are against the study of pure science and
other mainly intellectual pursuits. No surprise.



The Russians and the Chinese together are still spending on their
military only a small amount of what we spend. I'm not advocating that
we eliminate military spending, but I do think we should seriously cut
back on it each year until it is at a level that is no more than half of
what we currently spend.

Their philosophy is different. They are willing to spend blood more
than money. The US wants to have a war where no GIs are killed. That
is not cheap.

It's also absurd.

Granted but that is the US philosophy right now. We are spending about
a half a million dollars per combatant we kill, simply because we want
to use robot weapons manned by a guy who is safely ensconced in South
Dakota.

I believe the Muslims consider that cowardly. And of course, it helps
hide what war does from boobus Americanus.

We can't do nuttin'...
 

On 10/11/2015 12:22 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 11:19:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 10/11/15 10:23 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 11 Oct 2015 08:27:37 -0400, Keyser Söze
g infrastructure.


I will give you half of that. I agree some of the money could be spent
on infrastructure but you would be trading high tech jobs for blue
collar construction jobs.
We wouldn't need as much of that education you are talking about.
You don't need a bachelors degree to run a loader.



Education is a pursuit on its own...as we have discussed before, I think
there is far more use for education than learning a trade.


Education isn't a singular pursuit. Foremost is the need for an
education, professional or vocational, in order to be self sufficient,
earn a living, provide for a family, be a contributing member of society
and not be dependent on everyone else for survival. The need for this
level of education is drilled into every kid's head at a young age.

Then there's education for pleasure and intellectual curiosity. That's
secondary.

General liberal arts is a good example.