On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:44:34 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I think we're going to see a much bigger Russian presence in Syria than was ever
imagined, and I'm not talking about a destroyer making a social visit.

===

We should be OK with that if it stabilizes the country and stops the
ISIS plague from spreading further. Even if Assad is deposed Syria is
not going to turn into a tourist mecca or bastion of Western style
democracy.

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:44:18 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:44:34 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I think we're going to see a much bigger Russian presence in Syria than was ever
imagined, and I'm not talking about a destroyer making a social visit.

===

We should be OK with that if it stabilizes the country and stops the
ISIS plague from spreading further. Even if Assad is deposed Syria is
not going to turn into a tourist mecca or bastion of Western style
democracy.

If Assad was deposed, Syria would turn into the same black hole Iraq
turned into when we killed Saddam.

I know we are supposed to hate totalitarian dictators but they seem to
be the only ones who can hold down the crazies in these places.

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:18:28 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:44:18 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:44:34 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I think we're going to see a much bigger Russian presence in Syria than was ever
imagined, and I'm not talking about a destroyer making a social visit.

===

We should be OK with that if it stabilizes the country and stops the
ISIS plague from spreading further. Even if Assad is deposed Syria is
not going to turn into a tourist mecca or bastion of Western style
democracy.

If Assad was deposed, Syria would turn into the same black hole Iraq
turned into when we killed Saddam.

I know we are supposed to hate totalitarian dictators but they seem to
be the only ones who can hold down the crazies in these places.

===

Sometimes the world is full of tough choices. Hindsight being 20/20,
I'd vote for stability. The notion of democratic government is
totally alien to the prevailing culture. They have no foundation for
it unfortunately.

On 10/2/2015 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:18:28 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:44:18 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:44:34 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I think we're going to see a much bigger Russian presence in Syria than was ever
imagined, and I'm not talking about a destroyer making a social visit.

===

We should be OK with that if it stabilizes the country and stops the
ISIS plague from spreading further. Even if Assad is deposed Syria is
not going to turn into a tourist mecca or bastion of Western style
democracy.

If Assad was deposed, Syria would turn into the same black hole Iraq
turned into when we killed Saddam.

I know we are supposed to hate totalitarian dictators but they seem to
be the only ones who can hold down the crazies in these places.

===

Sometimes the world is full of tough choices. Hindsight being 20/20,
I'd vote for stability. The notion of democratic government is
totally alien to the prevailing culture. They have no foundation for
it unfortunately.



Very true.

On 10/1/15 5:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2015 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:18:28 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:44:18 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:44:34 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I think we're going to see a much bigger Russian presence in Syria
than was ever
imagined, and I'm not talking about a destroyer making a social visit.

===

We should be OK with that if it stabilizes the country and stops the
ISIS plague from spreading further. Even if Assad is deposed Syria is
not going to turn into a tourist mecca or bastion of Western style
democracy.

If Assad was deposed, Syria would turn into the same black hole Iraq
turned into when we killed Saddam.

I know we are supposed to hate totalitarian dictators but they seem to
be the only ones who can hold down the crazies in these places.

===

Sometimes the world is full of tough choices. Hindsight being 20/20,
I'd vote for stability. The notion of democratic government is
totally alien to the prevailing culture. They have no foundation for
it unfortunately.



Very true.



Right, because our support of horrific right-wing dictators who
eventually were deposed has worked out so well for us. You know,
Battista, the Shah, the South Vietnamese generals, the wonderful guys in
Nicaragua and Panama...et cetera.

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 17:18:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/1/15 5:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2015 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:18:28 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 14:44:18 -0500,
wrote:

On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:44:34 -0400, John H.
wrote:

I think we're going to see a much bigger Russian presence in Syria
than was ever
imagined, and I'm not talking about a destroyer making a social visit.

===

We should be OK with that if it stabilizes the country and stops the
ISIS plague from spreading further. Even if Assad is deposed Syria is
not going to turn into a tourist mecca or bastion of Western style
democracy.

If Assad was deposed, Syria would turn into the same black hole Iraq
turned into when we killed Saddam.

I know we are supposed to hate totalitarian dictators but they seem to
be the only ones who can hold down the crazies in these places.

===

Sometimes the world is full of tough choices. Hindsight being 20/20,
I'd vote for stability. The notion of democratic government is
totally alien to the prevailing culture. They have no foundation for
it unfortunately.



Very true.



Right, because our support of horrific right-wing dictators who
eventually were deposed has worked out so well for us. You know,
Battista, the Shah, the South Vietnamese generals, the wonderful guys in
Nicaragua and Panama...et cetera.


===

Whoosh.

On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 17:18:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/1/15 5:15 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/2/2015 5:29 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 16:18:28 -0400, wrote:

If Assad was deposed, Syria would turn into the same black hole Iraq
turned into when we killed Saddam.

I know we are supposed to hate totalitarian dictators but they seem to
be the only ones who can hold down the crazies in these places.

===

Sometimes the world is full of tough choices. Hindsight being 20/20,
I'd vote for stability. The notion of democratic government is
totally alien to the prevailing culture. They have no foundation for
it unfortunately.



Very true.



Right, because our support of horrific right-wing dictators who
eventually were deposed has worked out so well for us. You know,
Battista, the Shah, the South Vietnamese generals, the wonderful guys in
Nicaragua and Panama...et cetera.


I am thinking more about things that happened in this century.
Saddam, Q-daffy, Mubarak
How did that work out?