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On 9/28/2015 1:25 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
Came out with a typical GOP tax plan. How does that compare with Hillery's tax plan. |
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On 9/28/2015 7:46 PM, Tom Nofinger wrote:
On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 1:25:49 PM UTC-5, Boating All Out wrote: Came out with a typical GOP tax plan. But hardly- http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pres...p-race-n433991 In fact, it appears he is gaining popularity, regardless of the feeble blows from the media hammer. http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pres...p-race-n433991 While Hillery busies herself dying her grey roots. Is she really running a presidential race? |
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On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 1:25:49 PM UTC-5, Boating All Out wrote:
Came out with a typical GOP tax plan. But hardly- http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pres...p-race-n433991 In fact, it appears he is gaining popularity, regardless of the feeble blows from the media hammer. http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pres...p-race-n433991 |
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:46:46 -0700 (PDT), Tom Nofinger
wrote: On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 1:25:49 PM UTC-5, Boating All Out wrote: Came out with a typical GOP tax plan. But hardly- http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pres...p-race-n433991 In fact, it appears he is gaining popularity, regardless of the feeble blows from the media hammer. http://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-pres...p-race-n433991 Trump will be easy enough to kill off when they want to but right now, he is hyping up a race that would otherwise be largely ignored at this point. They want to get into that campaign money as soon as possible |
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On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 23:42:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: Currently, the only one that makes any sense at all and seems to have his priorities straight (as well as being knowledgeable about world affairs) is Marco Rubio. === Rubio is a smart, articulate guy but he's old school on Cuban relations and women's rights. |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 00:00:55 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote: On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 23:42:44 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: Currently, the only one that makes any sense at all and seems to have his priorities straight (as well as being knowledgeable about world affairs) is Marco Rubio. === Rubio is a smart, articulate guy but he's old school on Cuban relations and women's rights. I am not sure Rubio is really ready to be president. He really needs to stop and take a breath when he is on TV. He really looks bad. We are, after all, a TV nation. You are what you look like on TV. Bill or even GW, could have worked that sip of water, seamlessly into his speech. (at the SOTU response he was excoriated over). Marco looked like he was sneaking a drink at his Mom's party. |
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In article 9b2dnRlkI6XzDZfLnZ2dnUU7-
, says... As for Trump's plan ... it's basically raise the taxes on the rich and lower the taxes for the middle class. Only difference between the Dem's ideas and his is that he favors lowering taxes on business as well to stimulate the economy and bring jobs back to the USA. That's his concept anyway. Again, what are you smoking? http://tinyurl.com/q86kz3o |
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On 9/29/2015 9:46 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article 9b2dnRlkI6XzDZfLnZ2dnUU7- , says... As for Trump's plan ... it's basically raise the taxes on the rich and lower the taxes for the middle class. Only difference between the Dem's ideas and his is that he favors lowering taxes on business as well to stimulate the economy and bring jobs back to the USA. That's his concept anyway. Again, what are you smoking? http://tinyurl.com/q86kz3o It's amazing how media sources interpret what he said so differently: http://fortune.com/2015/09/27/trump-tax-plan/ |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:46:09 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article 9b2dnRlkI6XzDZfLnZ2dnUU7- , says... As for Trump's plan ... it's basically raise the taxes on the rich and lower the taxes for the middle class. Only difference between the Dem's ideas and his is that he favors lowering taxes on business as well to stimulate the economy and bring jobs back to the USA. That's his concept anyway. Again, what are you smoking? http://tinyurl.com/q86kz3o As much as we dislike paying more taxes, getting a handle on the debt is more important and that means the taxes go to the debt, not to fund more boondoggles. The only way I support higher taxes is if it went straight to the debt but I do think that should happen. The idea of lowering them even more is ludicrous unless you lower government spending more than the tax cut. We are paying the lowest tax rate since before WWII. |
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In article ov7l0bpnof1icne84nans13rbfbpm7gggv@
4ax.com, says... On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:46:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article 9b2dnRlkI6XzDZfLnZ2dnUU7- , says... As for Trump's plan ... it's basically raise the taxes on the rich and lower the taxes for the middle class. Only difference between the Dem's ideas and his is that he favors lowering taxes on business as well to stimulate the economy and bring jobs back to the USA. That's his concept anyway. Again, what are you smoking? http://tinyurl.com/q86kz3o As much as we dislike paying more taxes, getting a handle on the debt is more important and that means the taxes go to the debt, not to fund more boondoggles. The only way I support higher taxes is if it went straight to the debt but I do think that should happen. The idea of lowering them even more is ludicrous unless you lower government spending more than the tax cut. We are paying the lowest tax rate since before WWII. Yet Trump wants to lower them even more. Now he just has to reveal his spending plan. |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 09:45:42 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article ov7l0bpnof1icne84nans13rbfbpm7gggv@ 4ax.com, says... On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:46:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article 9b2dnRlkI6XzDZfLnZ2dnUU7- , says... As for Trump's plan ... it's basically raise the taxes on the rich and lower the taxes for the middle class. Only difference between the Dem's ideas and his is that he favors lowering taxes on business as well to stimulate the economy and bring jobs back to the USA. That's his concept anyway. Again, what are you smoking? http://tinyurl.com/q86kz3o As much as we dislike paying more taxes, getting a handle on the debt is more important and that means the taxes go to the debt, not to fund more boondoggles. The only way I support higher taxes is if it went straight to the debt but I do think that should happen. The idea of lowering them even more is ludicrous unless you lower government spending more than the tax cut. We are paying the lowest tax rate since before WWII. Yet Trump wants to lower them even more. Now he just has to reveal his spending plan. I would like to see a candidate talking about the deficit. We haven't had a president since Eisenhower who had a positive cash flow. He actually put some money on the national debt. At this point, simply reducing the rate the debt goes up would be refreshing. I suppose I could be a typical selfish American and say "I will be dead before we go belly up" but I have grandchildren and I am not even confident that we can hold it together until I die. (statistically ~2025-30). I am sure SS/MC will not make it without drastic cuts. |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:46:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article 9b2dnRlkI6XzDZfLnZ2dnUU7- , says... As for Trump's plan ... it's basically raise the taxes on the rich and lower the taxes for the middle class. Only difference between the Dem's ideas and his is that he favors lowering taxes on business as well to stimulate the economy and bring jobs back to the USA. That's his concept anyway. Again, what are you smoking? http://tinyurl.com/q86kz3o As much as we dislike paying more taxes, getting a handle on the debt is more important and that means the taxes go to the debt, not to fund more boondoggles. The only way I support higher taxes is if it went straight to the debt but I do think that should happen. The idea of lowering them even more is ludicrous unless you lower government spending more than the tax cut. We are paying the lowest tax rate since before WWII. True. But some of Trump's ideas should be imposed. Hedge Fund Managers with $400 million dollar income pay at qualified dividend rates. But that may be more a sign of how fouled up the tax code is than political payoff. |
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On 9/29/15 11:54 AM, Califbill wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:46:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article 9b2dnRlkI6XzDZfLnZ2dnUU7- , says... As for Trump's plan ... it's basically raise the taxes on the rich and lower the taxes for the middle class. Only difference between the Dem's ideas and his is that he favors lowering taxes on business as well to stimulate the economy and bring jobs back to the USA. That's his concept anyway. Again, what are you smoking? http://tinyurl.com/q86kz3o As much as we dislike paying more taxes, getting a handle on the debt is more important and that means the taxes go to the debt, not to fund more boondoggles. The only way I support higher taxes is if it went straight to the debt but I do think that should happen. The idea of lowering them even more is ludicrous unless you lower government spending more than the tax cut. We are paying the lowest tax rate since before WWII. True. But some of Trump's ideas should be imposed. Hedge Fund Managers with $400 million dollar income pay at qualified dividend rates. But that may be more a sign of how fouled up the tax code is than political payoff. It's not "Trump's idea" regarding hedge fund managers. |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:54:15 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:
wrote: On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 08:46:09 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: In article 9b2dnRlkI6XzDZfLnZ2dnUU7- , says... As for Trump's plan ... it's basically raise the taxes on the rich and lower the taxes for the middle class. Only difference between the Dem's ideas and his is that he favors lowering taxes on business as well to stimulate the economy and bring jobs back to the USA. That's his concept anyway. Again, what are you smoking? http://tinyurl.com/q86kz3o As much as we dislike paying more taxes, getting a handle on the debt is more important and that means the taxes go to the debt, not to fund more boondoggles. The only way I support higher taxes is if it went straight to the debt but I do think that should happen. The idea of lowering them even more is ludicrous unless you lower government spending more than the tax cut. We are paying the lowest tax rate since before WWII. True. But some of Trump's ideas should be imposed. Hedge Fund Managers with $400 million dollar income pay at qualified dividend rates. But that may be more a sign of how fouled up the tax code is than political payoff. There are plenty of loopholes like this that can be plugged but it is not really going to generate that much revenue when compared to a $580 billion deficit. There are just not that many hedge fund managers making that much money. I wouldn't mind the IRS giving Shkreli a good spanking tho. |
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On Tue, 29 Sep 2015 17:42:36 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: The ACA was a miracle wrought by Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi. You are right about Brown. The ACA was a frankenstein monster "written by WellPoint lobbyists in Max Baucus' office" according to Howard Dean and Pelosi had nothing to do with it. The house bill was tossed in it's entirety the day it was read into the Senate calendar All Pelosi did was implore her members not to change a comma in it when they approved the Senate bill |
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On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 12:33:16 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/30/2015 12:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote: That's how it'll be until the old 19th century thinkers - like you - die out. And so be it. I'm perfectly happy with that. Never had it so easy. What, you worried about the "poor people?" That's a laugh. Good grief, you sound like as big of a jackass as harry. Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". There is absolutely no doubt that the progressives have destroyed the ideals that once made the USA a mighty and strong nation, both internally and in the eyes of the rest of the world. We are well down the path of becoming another Greece, and the liberals are too myopic to see that. I just hope that, as a nation, we'll be able to see that and turn away from the destructive path the liberals have put us on. |
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In article q8GdnTZmeYRXk5HLnZ2dnUU7-
, says... Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". Uh, no. I find this century improved over the last. You're just getting old and inflexible. Probably watching too much TV. |
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On 9/30/2015 1:36 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article q8GdnTZmeYRXk5HLnZ2dnUU7- , says... Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". Uh, no. I find this century improved over the last. You're just getting old and inflexible. Probably watching too much TV. Nope. Sorry. I am staying pretty busy. How 'bout you? |
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Boating All Out wrote:
In article q8GdnTZmeYRXk5HLnZ2dnUU7- , says... Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". Uh, no. I find this century improved over the last. You're just getting old and inflexible. Probably watching too much TV. So you are a welfare king. |
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On 9/30/15 3:46 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 9/30/15 2:51 PM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:29:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 12:33:16 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/30/2015 12:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote: That's how it'll be until the old 19th century thinkers - like you - die out. And so be it. I'm perfectly happy with that. Never had it so easy. What, you worried about the "poor people?" That's a laugh. Good grief, you sound like as big of a jackass as harry. Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". There is absolutely no doubt that the progressives have destroyed the ideals that once made the USA a mighty and strong nation, both internally and in the eyes of the rest of the world. We are well down the path of becoming another Greece, and the liberals are too myopic to see that. I just hope that, as a nation, we'll be able to see that and turn away from the destructive path the liberals have put us on. The SecDef, on TV right now, is making a total fool of himself and this administration. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Taking context lessons from Tim, eh? Brain dead? Oh, I understand why you wouldn't need context in a post... |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:49:29 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote: On 9/30/15 3:46 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 9/30/15 2:51 PM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:29:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 12:33:16 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/30/2015 12:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote: That's how it'll be until the old 19th century thinkers - like you - die out. And so be it. I'm perfectly happy with that. Never had it so easy. What, you worried about the "poor people?" That's a laugh. Good grief, you sound like as big of a jackass as harry. Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". There is absolutely no doubt that the progressives have destroyed the ideals that once made the USA a mighty and strong nation, both internally and in the eyes of the rest of the world. We are well down the path of becoming another Greece, and the liberals are too myopic to see that. I just hope that, as a nation, we'll be able to see that and turn away from the destructive path the liberals have put us on. The SecDef, on TV right now, is making a total fool of himself and this administration. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Taking context lessons from Tim, eh? Brain dead? Oh, I understand why you wouldn't need context in a post... === Harry, the self proclaimed master of abstract thinking, still can't put two and two together. |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:03:55 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:49:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 9/30/15 3:46 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 9/30/15 2:51 PM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:29:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 12:33:16 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/30/2015 12:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote: That's how it'll be until the old 19th century thinkers - like you - die out. And so be it. I'm perfectly happy with that. Never had it so easy. What, you worried about the "poor people?" That's a laugh. Good grief, you sound like as big of a jackass as harry. Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". There is absolutely no doubt that the progressives have destroyed the ideals that once made the USA a mighty and strong nation, both internally and in the eyes of the rest of the world. We are well down the path of becoming another Greece, and the liberals are too myopic to see that. I just hope that, as a nation, we'll be able to see that and turn away from the destructive path the liberals have put us on. The SecDef, on TV right now, is making a total fool of himself and this administration. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Taking context lessons from Tim, eh? Brain dead? Oh, I understand why you wouldn't need context in a post... === Harry, the self proclaimed master of abstract thinking, still can't put two and two together. Yup. He may be a master baiter, but I can't think of anything else he's mastered. Hell, he's not even a good liar. Gets caught far too often. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 9/30/15 5:40 PM, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 17:03:55 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 15:49:29 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 9/30/15 3:46 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 9/30/15 2:51 PM, John H. wrote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 10:29:05 -0700 (PDT), wrote: On Wednesday, September 30, 2015 at 12:33:16 PM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 9/30/2015 12:09 PM, Boating All Out wrote: That's how it'll be until the old 19th century thinkers - like you - die out. And so be it. I'm perfectly happy with that. Never had it so easy. What, you worried about the "poor people?" That's a laugh. Good grief, you sound like as big of a jackass as harry. Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". There is absolutely no doubt that the progressives have destroyed the ideals that once made the USA a mighty and strong nation, both internally and in the eyes of the rest of the world. We are well down the path of becoming another Greece, and the liberals are too myopic to see that. I just hope that, as a nation, we'll be able to see that and turn away from the destructive path the liberals have put us on. The SecDef, on TV right now, is making a total fool of himself and this administration. -- Ban idiots, not guns! Taking context lessons from Tim, eh? Brain dead? Oh, I understand why you wouldn't need context in a post... === Harry, the self proclaimed master of abstract thinking, still can't put two and two together. Yup. He may be a master baiter, but I can't think of anything else he's mastered. Hell, he's not even a good liar. Gets caught far too often. -- Ban idiots, not guns! So, Luddite puts up a post about what is wrong with America, compared to the glorious days of the past, and you respond with a whine about the Secretary of Defense but with no context, your butt buddy w'hine chimes in...oh, I get it...you flatliners are posting in code. |
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Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 9/30/2015 1:36 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article q8GdnTZmeYRXk5HLnZ2dnUU7- , says... Ask yourself ... honestly ... the famous question: Is the USA (and the rest of the world for that matter) and their respective citizens better off today than it was a decade ago? Just on the domestic front: Drug addiction, people on medication for depression, racial strife and political polarization have never been so prevalent. Individual choices have given way to "Common Core" concepts and federal mandates. State's rights have diminished (love to see that subject challenged in the Supreme Court) with the Federal government becoming more and more intrusive and controlling while demonstrating how incompetent it is. Yup, the "progressive" way is really working miracles as it continues to infect and destroy traditional values and expectations. Maybe some of the principles and values of 19th century thinkers should be reconsidered. Time to wake up and say "enough is enough". Uh, no. I find this century improved over the last. You're just getting old and inflexible. Probably watching too much TV. Nope. Sorry. I am staying pretty busy. How 'bout you? Kevin is engineering something, of course. |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2015 11:09:12 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: In article kevn0bpvnq8s70ge7u3duafipok2btcis6@ 4ax.com, says... It wasn't even close. Maybe you should look at the abstracts of the 2 bills. You mean like this one. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affordable_Health_Care _for_America_Act It only proves you're wrong, but I already know that. I love it when you guys post a link that says exactly the opposite of your position. From the wiki referring to the house bill that was tossed in it's entirety "The central changes that would have been made by the legislation, had it been enacted, included the following:" .... and goes on to list 2 pages of things the house bill had that were not in the senate bill. Do I really have to get the Thomas list of actions on the bill for you guys AGAIN? The first thing that happened after the bill was read into the senate was it was totally replaced. I trust the Library of Congress a lot more than a wiki writer who does not understand how congress works. I still ask, where is this "leadership"? For the last 7 years, just about everything has come down to straight party votes. That is not leadership, it is simply standing still and letting party affiliation decide everything for you. It took "leadership" and drive to get the Dems together to pass the ACA, a monumental accomplishment. Leadership would have been to get some republicans on board. They are just preaching to the choir. |
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On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 06:35:35 -0500, Boating All Out
wrote: Do I really have to get the Thomas list of actions on the bill for you guys AGAIN? Uh, who are "you guys?" Me and Wayne? === I have no dog in this hunt. |
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On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 07:41:57 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 06:35:35 -0500, Boating All Out wrote: Do I really have to get the Thomas list of actions on the bill for you guys AGAIN? Uh, who are "you guys?" Me and Wayne? === I have no dog in this hunt. Remember, that's the guy who said ISIS was just a band of thugs. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On 10/1/15 12:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:58:01 -0400, wrote: You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas. To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not let them use. FWIW, the hospital my brother was in, until yesterday, does use a triage approach. A nurse sits with each arrival, takes vitals, listens to complaint, and decides where the patient goes. Worked well when we took him in. -- There's nothing unusual about that "nurse greeting" approach for walk-ins. Our local hospital has used that approach for years. I would go for pre-screening minor ER visits by former military personnel who are at least registered nurses or, better, physician's assistants. I first see a physician's assistant at my local medical practice, and she is thorough. |
Trump Seals His Fate
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:16:17 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 12:08 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:58:01 -0400, wrote: You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas. To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not let them use. FWIW, the hospital my brother was in, until yesterday, does use a triage approach. A nurse sits with each arrival, takes vitals, listens to complaint, and decides where the patient goes. Worked well when we took him in. -- There's nothing unusual about that "nurse greeting" approach for walk-ins. Our local hospital has used that approach for years. I would go for pre-screening minor ER visits by former military personnel who are at least registered nurses or, better, physician's assistants. I first see a physician's assistant at my local medical practice, and she is thorough. There you go. Another reason that Greg is right. How was that Vietnam service, liar? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Trump Seals His Fate
On 10/1/15 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:
How was that Vietnam service, liar? How was your last Ku Klux Klan RV Jamboree, ****-for-brains? |
Trump Seals His Fate
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