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Trump Seals His Fate
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 4:24 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:16:17 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 10/1/15 12:08 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 01 Oct 2015 11:58:01 -0400, wrote: You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas. To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not let them use. FWIW, the hospital my brother was in, until yesterday, does use a triage approach. A nurse sits with each arrival, takes vitals, listens to complaint, and decides where the patient goes. Worked well when we took him in. -- There's nothing unusual about that "nurse greeting" approach for walk-ins. Our local hospital has used that approach for years. I would go for pre-screening minor ER visits by former military personnel who are at least registered nurses or, better, physician's assistants. I first see a physician's assistant at my local medical practice, and she is thorough. My problem with the current situation is the medical/educational establishment does not recognize military training and experience. Well, there certainly are ways to evaluate the education and training, and "test" the applicants for ability and knowledge. It seems reasonable to grant qualified military personnel paid apprenticeships at hospitals while they pursue educationally whatever can reasonably be determined is needed to help them get a BSN. There are lots of science courses involved in that BSN. Why do they need a BSN? For years, was a RN. Nurses went to school at a hospital for 3 years. Passed a state test. My mom got her RN in 1938. Did not need a degree until she went to work for a VNA. Got the degree in 1962. Did not improve her nursing skills, which were top tier. Seems if is a way of limited entry these days, requiring a degree, or advanced degree. Why do you need a masters to teach 2nd grade? |
Trump Seals His Fate
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:43:53 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 4:35 PM, wrote: You must have dodged the draft with Harry. - - - Why do you keep perpetuating this bull****? Once again, I registered for the draft, and I kept my draft board informed of my whereabouts. That was the legal requirement and I followed the requirement. The overwhelming majority of males in my age group were not drafted. I was part of that majority. Did that same majority make up bull**** lies about collecting the bodies of dead soldiers in Vietnam? -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
Trump Seals His Fate
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:28:50 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 4:24 PM, wrote: My problem with the current situation is the medical/educational establishment does not recognize military training and experience. Well, there certainly are ways to evaluate the education and training, and "test" the applicants for ability and knowledge. It seems reasonable to grant qualified military personnel paid apprenticeships at hospitals while they pursue educationally whatever can reasonably be determined is needed to help them get a BSN. There are lots of science courses involved in that BSN. My grand niece was an ER nurse in the navy and in civilian life she would have to start like any other high school graduate. There was no path to use any of her training or experience. |
Trump Seals His Fate
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:51:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 4:37 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:53:46 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 10/1/15 12:48 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: You do understand that Greg doesn't really give a flying f*ck about beyond his personal needs. ...about anything beyond his personal needs..." I am not the one throwing my grandchildren under the bus with all this debt. My grandson will either be a physicist or a linguist at MIT or Harvard, likely on early admission, with a fully paid ticket. Perhaps he'll figure out a way to stop the bus before it runs over your grandchildren. He will do it by throwing granny from the train |
Trump Seals His Fate
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On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 16:51:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 10/1/15 4:37 PM, wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:53:46 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 10/1/15 12:48 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: You do understand that Greg doesn't really give a flying f*ck about beyond his personal needs. ...about anything beyond his personal needs..." I am not the one throwing my grandchildren under the bus with all this debt. My grandson will either be a physicist or a linguist at MIT or Harvard, likely on early admission, with a fully paid ticket. Perhaps he'll figure out a way to stop the bus before it runs over your grandchildren. He will do it by throwing granny from the train Yup a linguist is going to fix the economic debacle pending. He might be able to phrase it so people feel good about a depression. Doubt it . |
Trump Seals His Fate
On 10/1/2015 11:22 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 12:19 PM, John H. wrote: How was that Vietnam service, liar? How was your last Ku Klux Klan RV Jamboree, ****-for-brains? Wow. Your **** id really off the wall. What meds are you on? |
Trump Seals His Fate
On 10/1/2015 12:03 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:48:55 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 10/1/15 12:43 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read into the senate. Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent to the house. Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat. Whatever floats your boat. You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas. To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not let them use. Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care. Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive and better health care is delivered. You are nuts. My idea is to attack the cost of medical care, not to just create another layer of bureaucracy like ACA and make the insurance companies richer. Somehow the rest of the world has solved the problem without "vets." I suggest you look elsewhere for inspiration. There's plenty of places that have gotten the problem in hand. Too bad Joe Lieberman didn't join the choir. Then we could get at the root of the problem, which is the insurance industry, and exorbitant medical costs. Your whole caucus was depending on Lieberman and nobody could change his mind? It sounds like he was the only LEADER there. Riiight. Leader of the insurance industry. BTW, your "ideas" are why the GOP is kaput as "leaders." . You do understand that Greg doesn't really give a flying f*ck about beyond his personal needs. ....and you do understand that Greg continuously makes krotch look like a dumb ****. -- Ban idiots, not guns! We are all fully aware that Greg is making mince meat out of Krause on a daily basis. It's a dirty job but somebody's got to do it. |
Trump Seals His Fate
On 10/1/2015 12:08 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote: On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:22:53 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 10/1/15 12:19 PM, John H. wrote: How was that Vietnam service, liar? How was your last Ku Klux Klan RV Jamboree, ****-for-brains? Have I bragged about a KKK anything? You make about as much sense as your little buddy. Maybe you could decipher? I don't mind answering your questions, 'cause I don't have to tangle the web trying to deceive you. How were those trips around the horn? -- Ban idiots, not guns! I'm so happy I'm not a ****ed off, old, decrepit, racist white man with a failing body and a failing mind...which is a perfectly valid description of you. You are so full of hate...and nothing else. Oh! Gag me with a spoon, you pathetic POS. |
Trump Seals His Fate
On 10/1/2015 12:26 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 10/1/2015 12:43 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read into the senate. Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent to the house. Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat. Whatever floats your boat. You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas. To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not let them use. Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care. Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive and better health care is delivered. You are nuts. My idea is to attack the cost of medical care, not to just create another layer of bureaucracy like ACA and make the insurance companies richer. Somehow the rest of the world has solved the problem without "vets." I suggest you look elsewhere for inspiration. There's plenty of places that have gotten the problem in hand. Too bad Joe Lieberman didn't join the choir. Then we could get at the root of the problem, which is the insurance industry, and exorbitant medical costs. Your whole caucus was depending on Lieberman and nobody could change his mind? It sounds like he was the only LEADER there. Riiight. Leader of the insurance industry. BTW, your "ideas" are why the GOP is kaput as "leaders." . Your ignorance is showing. First of all, the USA is *not* the "rest of the world" and the "rest of the world" does not handle health care issues in the same way. Every country has it's unique economic and social structure and how it deals with social and health services vary. US military medical personal are well trained ... probably as well or better than any 2 year nursing school and they usually have about four years or more of direct experience. I am not talking about doctors. I am talking about enlisted personnel who attended military schools and then worked in the field during their enlistment. The cost of training each US Navy Hospital Corpsman is in the six figures. Why not use that investment when they return to the civilian workplace? They can't directly make that transition due to political/economic influences that includes the AMA. Stupid. Seems like every liberal wants the USA to adopt "the rest of the world's" solutions. Grass is always greener, eh? What do you expect from Harry's crazy half brother? |
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