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On 10/1/15 12:43 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a
couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT
bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read
into the senate.
Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent
to the house.


Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in
different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat.
Whatever floats your boat.

You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas.
To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals
amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper
than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main
complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with
minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate
the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could
shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while
people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with
vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not
let them use.


Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care.
Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive
and better health care is delivered.
You are nuts.

My idea is to attack the cost of medical care, not to just create
another layer of bureaucracy like ACA and make the insurance companies
richer.


Somehow the rest of the world has solved the problem without
"vets." I suggest you look elsewhere for inspiration.
There's plenty of places that have gotten the problem in hand.


Too bad Joe Lieberman didn't join the choir.
Then we could get at the root of the problem, which is the
insurance industry, and exorbitant medical costs.

Your whole caucus was depending on Lieberman and nobody could change
his mind? It sounds like he was the only LEADER there.

Riiight. Leader of the insurance industry.
BTW, your "ideas" are why the GOP is kaput as "leaders."

.



You do understand that Greg doesn't really give a flying f*ck about
beyond his personal needs.

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On 10/1/15 12:48 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 12:43 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a
couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT
bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read
into the senate.
Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent
to the house.


Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in
different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat.
Whatever floats your boat.

You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas.
To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals
amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper
than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main
complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with
minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate
the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could
shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while
people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with
vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not
let them use.


Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care.
Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive
and better health care is delivered.
You are nuts.

My idea is to attack the cost of medical care, not to just create
another layer of bureaucracy like ACA and make the insurance companies
richer.


Somehow the rest of the world has solved the problem without
"vets." I suggest you look elsewhere for inspiration.
There's plenty of places that have gotten the problem in hand.


Too bad Joe Lieberman didn't join the choir.
Then we could get at the root of the problem, which is the
insurance industry, and exorbitant medical costs.

Your whole caucus was depending on Lieberman and nobody could change
his mind? It sounds like he was the only LEADER there.

Riiight. Leader of the insurance industry.
BTW, your "ideas" are why the GOP is kaput as "leaders."

.



You do understand that Greg doesn't really give a flying f*ck about
beyond his personal needs.

....about anything beyond his personal needs..."

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On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:22:53 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/1/15 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:


How was that Vietnam service, liar?


How was your last Ku Klux Klan RV Jamboree, ****-for-brains?

Have I bragged about a KKK anything? You make about as much sense as your little
buddy. Maybe you could decipher? I don't mind answering your questions, 'cause I
don't have to tangle the web trying to deceive you.

How were those trips around the horn?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:48:55 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/1/15 12:43 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a
couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT
bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read
into the senate.
Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent
to the house.


Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in
different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat.
Whatever floats your boat.

You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas.
To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals
amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper
than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main
complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with
minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate
the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could
shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while
people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with
vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not
let them use.


Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care.
Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive
and better health care is delivered.
You are nuts.

My idea is to attack the cost of medical care, not to just create
another layer of bureaucracy like ACA and make the insurance companies
richer.


Somehow the rest of the world has solved the problem without
"vets." I suggest you look elsewhere for inspiration.
There's plenty of places that have gotten the problem in hand.


Too bad Joe Lieberman didn't join the choir.
Then we could get at the root of the problem, which is the
insurance industry, and exorbitant medical costs.

Your whole caucus was depending on Lieberman and nobody could change
his mind? It sounds like he was the only LEADER there.

Riiight. Leader of the insurance industry.
BTW, your "ideas" are why the GOP is kaput as "leaders."

.



You do understand that Greg doesn't really give a flying f*ck about
beyond his personal needs.

....and you do understand that Greg continuously makes krotch look like a dumb ****.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 11:43:36 -0500, Boating All Out wrote:

In article ,
says...


NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a
couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT
bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read
into the senate.
Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent
to the house.


Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in
different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat.
Whatever floats your boat.

You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas.
To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals
amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper
than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main
complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with
minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate
the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could
shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while
people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with
vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not
let them use.


Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care.
Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive
and better health care is delivered.
You are nuts.


Rather than call names, a la krotch, explain why vets shouldn't be used.

Or, tell us how ISIS is 'just a bunch of thugs'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

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On 10/1/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:22:53 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/1/15 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:


How was that Vietnam service, liar?


How was your last Ku Klux Klan RV Jamboree, ****-for-brains?

Have I bragged about a KKK anything? You make about as much sense as your little
buddy. Maybe you could decipher? I don't mind answering your questions, 'cause I
don't have to tangle the web trying to deceive you.

How were those trips around the horn?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


I'm so happy I'm not a ****ed off, old, decrepit, racist white man with
a failing body and a failing mind...which is a perfectly valid
description of you. You are so full of hate...and nothing else.

Trump Seals His Fate
 

On 10/1/2015 12:43 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a
couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT
bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read
into the senate.
Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent
to the house.


Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in
different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat.
Whatever floats your boat.

You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas.
To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals
amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper
than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main
complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with
minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate
the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could
shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while
people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with
vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not
let them use.


Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care.
Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive
and better health care is delivered.
You are nuts.

My idea is to attack the cost of medical care, not to just create
another layer of bureaucracy like ACA and make the insurance companies
richer.


Somehow the rest of the world has solved the problem without
"vets." I suggest you look elsewhere for inspiration.
There's plenty of places that have gotten the problem in hand.


Too bad Joe Lieberman didn't join the choir.
Then we could get at the root of the problem, which is the
insurance industry, and exorbitant medical costs.

Your whole caucus was depending on Lieberman and nobody could change
his mind? It sounds like he was the only LEADER there.

Riiight. Leader of the insurance industry.
BTW, your "ideas" are why the GOP is kaput as "leaders."

.



Your ignorance is showing.

First of all, the USA is *not* the "rest of the world" and the "rest of
the world" does not handle health care issues in the same way.

Every country has it's unique economic and social structure and how it
deals with social and health services vary. US military medical
personal are well trained ... probably as well or better than any
2 year nursing school and they usually have about four years or more of
direct experience. I am not talking about doctors. I am talking about
enlisted personnel who attended military schools and then worked in the
field during their enlistment. The cost of training each US Navy
Hospital Corpsman is in the six figures. Why not use that investment
when they return to the civilian workplace? They can't directly make
that transition due to political/economic influences that includes the
AMA. Stupid.

Seems like every liberal wants the USA to adopt "the rest of the
world's" solutions. Grass is always greener, eh?

Trump Seals His Fate
 

Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a
couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT
bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read
into the senate.
Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent
to the house.


Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in
different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat.
Whatever floats your boat.

You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas.
To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals
amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper
than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main
complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with
minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate
the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could
shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while
people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with
vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not
let them use.


Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care.
Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive
and better health care is delivered.
You are nuts.

My idea is to attack the cost of medical care, not to just create
another layer of bureaucracy like ACA and make the insurance companies
richer.


Somehow the rest of the world has solved the problem without
"vets." I suggest you look elsewhere for inspiration.
There's plenty of places that have gotten the problem in hand.


Too bad Joe Lieberman didn't join the choir.
Then we could get at the root of the problem, which is the
insurance industry, and exorbitant medical costs.

Your whole caucus was depending on Lieberman and nobody could change
his mind? It sounds like he was the only LEADER there.

Riiight. Leader of the insurance industry.
BTW, your "ideas" are why the GOP is kaput as "leaders."

.


Europe uses a walk in clinic attached to the hospital. Does have a doctor
and nurse. Takes 90% of the walk-in trade. And if you are not European
citizen you will pay, or no service if you need anything beyond the walk in
clinic. And a buck or 2 per gallon of gasoline pays a lot of that "free"
medical care. Ain't no free lunch. They also do not have the lawyer cost
we do. Bad lawsuits rarely happen. As loser pays the winners legal costs.
I do not know what they do if an illegal, broke immigrant arrives to give
birth, but may not be a very long stay at the hospital, and minimum care.

ACA did nothing to make healthcare affordable. Just gave more customers to
insurance companies. With huge deductibles. Your $50 a month subsidized
insurance will only cover you if you need $20000 or more of care in a year.

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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 12:43 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article ,
says...


NO the major differences are to many to list. The wiki just hit a
couple dozen. The point I was making is it was an entirely DIFFERENT
bill that the senate substituted the same day the house bill was read
into the senate.
Pilosi did nothing but fall on her sword when the senate bill was sent
to the house.


Oh, I get it now. Commas. You're talking about commas, in
different places. The nicks and cuts on the skinned cat.
Whatever floats your boat.

You have not been reading much if you have not seen my ideas.
To start with, what was so wrong with the old system where hospitals
amortized the indigent bills into their operating cost? It is cheaper
than letting the government and the insurance companies do it. My main
complaint was that they were using specialized ER people to deal with
minor problems and my solution was a triage, outside he ER to separate
the non-emergency cases from the true emergencies. Then they could
shuttle them off to a cheaper walk in clinic on site. After a while
people would know to just go there first. That could be staffed with
vets who have medical skills we already paid for and the AMA will not
let them use.


Let me get this straight. Use "vets" to deliver health care.
Must be how they do they it everywhere else where less expensive
and better health care is delivered.
You are nuts.

My idea is to attack the cost of medical care, not to just create
another layer of bureaucracy like ACA and make the insurance companies
richer.


Somehow the rest of the world has solved the problem without
"vets." I suggest you look elsewhere for inspiration.
There's plenty of places that have gotten the problem in hand.


Too bad Joe Lieberman didn't join the choir.
Then we could get at the root of the problem, which is the
insurance industry, and exorbitant medical costs.

Your whole caucus was depending on Lieberman and nobody could change
his mind? It sounds like he was the only LEADER there.

Riiight. Leader of the insurance industry.
BTW, your "ideas" are why the GOP is kaput as "leaders."

.



You do understand that Greg doesn't really give a flying f*ck about
beyond his personal needs.


Sounds like you are only interested in getting free benefits from your
neighbors who pay taxes. Screw the children and grandchildren that we are
saddling with massive debt.

Trump Seals His Fate
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 10/1/15 12:59 PM, John H. wrote:
On Thu, 1 Oct 2015 12:22:53 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 10/1/15 12:19 PM, John H. wrote:


How was that Vietnam service, liar?


How was your last Ku Klux Klan RV Jamboree, ****-for-brains?

Have I bragged about a KKK anything? You make about as much sense as your little
buddy. Maybe you could decipher? I don't mind answering your questions, 'cause I
don't have to tangle the web trying to deceive you.

How were those trips around the horn?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


I'm so happy I'm not a ****ed off, old, decrepit, racist white man with
a failing body and a failing mind...which is a perfectly valid
description of you. You are so full of hate...and nothing else.


Nope, you are old white, worthless, gimme, gimme, failing brain person.