Speaking of camping.
 

We returned earlier from a trip to Richmond for a wedding. Spent the weekend in
Pocahontas State Park, just south of Richmond. It's close to I-95 and a great park.
Lots of trails, for walking and bikes. Not at all expensive. No sewage hookup, but
easily accessible dump station. I don't know of any Virginia state parks that have
sewage hookups. We've stated at Lake Anna, Shenandoah River, Pocahontas, and First
Landing State Parks. All have been exceptionally well-maintained and very reasonably
priced. First Landing is a nice bike ride from Virginia Beach.

And, after letters to the state park director, many emails, and a letter to the
governor (all from many folks, I'm sure) the parks no longer charge a fee for pets.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/27/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
We returned earlier from a trip to Richmond for a wedding. Spent the weekend in
Pocahontas State Park, just south of Richmond. It's close to I-95 and a great park.
Lots of trails, for walking and bikes. Not at all expensive. No sewage hookup, but
easily accessible dump station. I don't know of any Virginia state parks that have
sewage hookups. We've stated at Lake Anna, Shenandoah River, Pocahontas, and First
Landing State Parks. All have been exceptionally well-maintained and very reasonably
priced. First Landing is a nice bike ride from Virginia Beach.

And, after letters to the state park director, many emails, and a letter to the
governor (all from many folks, I'm sure) the parks no longer charge a fee for pets.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/27/2015 4:41 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
We returned earlier from a trip to Richmond for a wedding. Spent the
weekend in
Pocahontas State Park, just south of Richmond. It's close to I-95 and
a great park.
Lots of trails, for walking and bikes. Not at all expensive. No sewage
hookup, but
easily accessible dump station. I don't know of any Virginia state
parks that have
sewage hookups. We've stated at Lake Anna, Shenandoah River,
Pocahontas, and First
Landing State Parks. All have been exceptionally well-maintained and
very reasonably
priced. First Landing is a nice bike ride from Virginia Beach.

And, after letters to the state park director, many emails, and a
letter to the
governor (all from many folks, I'm sure) the parks no longer charge a
fee for pets.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able.

Watch it. A stupid grin on your face could land you in custody of those
guys in the white coats. Give us your version of what camping really is.
We can use a laugh,

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/27/2015 5:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does 'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.

What's real camping to you, cuddling up with your dog in the back of
your Hilander or whatever it is you drag your boat around with. And I
use the term boat very loosely.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/27/2015 5:29 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the
Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.


Doubt they're laughing, especially when it's rainy or windy. To each his
own I say.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/27/2015 5:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.

You took the words right out of my mouth. Most of the tent campers I've
seen lately are cyclists. These young adventurers are probably having
the times of their lives. I don't knock what they're doing but I think
I've earned some creature comforts while camping here and there.

Speaking of camping.
 

Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does 'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does 'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.

Speaking of camping.
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/27/15 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.


Rain is part of camping.

Speaking of camping.
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the
Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something
like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.


Rain is part of camping.


And it sounds nice on the roof my truck camper. Not so much when we used a
tent.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Speaking of camping.
 

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/15 3:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.



Ahh, "camping" at a suite at a good hotel...another interesting
variation of RV'ing.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 2:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Unless living in airplanes and hotel rooms doesn't appeal to you.
Beautiful scenery and a dark sky make for excellent eclipse viewing.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 5:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 3:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the
Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he
does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those
air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.



Ahh, "camping" at a suite at a good hotel...another interesting
variation of RV'ing.

You don't seem like a happy camper. Why not? You appear to be well cared
for and are given sufficient toys to keep you busy. Health issues aside,
you should be thankful.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 12:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Your 5er is nicer than Donnie's house, and Krause doesn't own a house.
Let them cackle all they want.

Speaking of camping.
 

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Speaking of camping.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:06:33 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 9/28/2015 5:13 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 3:18 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the
Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he
does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those
air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.



Ahh, "camping" at a suite at a good hotel...another interesting
variation of RV'ing.

You don't seem like a happy camper. Why not? You appear to be well cared
for and are given sufficient toys to keep you busy. Health issues aside,
you should be thankful.

Green eyed monster crawling up his back.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Speaking of camping.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/15 1:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Jealous over what, exactly, JohnnyMop? There's nothing I find appealing
about driving an oversized pick-me-up truck towing an oversized box down
the interstate so I can spend the night in a camp among other RV'ers.
Frankly, your adventures on the highways remind me of the Joads
traveling from Oklahoma to California, except their trip had purpose.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.

Speaking of camping.
 

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:41:51 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/27/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
We returned earlier from a trip to Richmond for a wedding. Spent the weekend in
Pocahontas State Park, just south of Richmond. It's close to I-95 and a great park.
Lots of trails, for walking and bikes. Not at all expensive. No sewage hookup, but
easily accessible dump station. I don't know of any Virginia state parks that have
sewage hookups. We've stated at Lake Anna, Shenandoah River, Pocahontas, and First
Landing State Parks. All have been exceptionally well-maintained and very reasonably
priced. First Landing is a nice bike ride from Virginia Beach.

And, after letters to the state park director, many emails, and a letter to the
governor (all from many folks, I'm sure) the parks no longer charge a fee for pets.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able.

Would you rather I sit in my basement calling names, lying, and displaying my jealous
narcissism, Harry?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/15 1:35 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:41:51 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/27/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
We returned earlier from a trip to Richmond for a wedding. Spent the weekend in
Pocahontas State Park, just south of Richmond. It's close to I-95 and a great park.
Lots of trails, for walking and bikes. Not at all expensive. No sewage hookup, but
easily accessible dump station. I don't know of any Virginia state parks that have
sewage hookups. We've stated at Lake Anna, Shenandoah River, Pocahontas, and First
Landing State Parks. All have been exceptionally well-maintained and very reasonably
priced. First Landing is a nice bike ride from Virginia Beach.

And, after letters to the state park director, many emails, and a letter to the
governor (all from many folks, I'm sure) the parks no longer charge a fee for pets.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able.

Would you rather I sit in my basement calling names, lying, and displaying my jealous
narcissism, Harry?

--

Naw...I'd prefer you got a job managing the "dump station." Seems
appropriate for someone like you, eh?

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 1:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:03:07 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 2:18 AM, wrote:

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Unless living in airplanes and hotel rooms doesn't appeal to you.
Beautiful scenery and a dark sky make for excellent eclipse viewing.

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


You could always move to Jacksonville if you need to be near a border.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 1:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 2:42 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:27:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what
the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what
he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those
air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of
those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a
pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel
trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each
month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then
straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.

Sitting around a nice, big fire with a bunch of friends, watching the
sun go down
over the Patuxent, is quite enjoyable.

Of course, you have to have some friends.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Do you wear your cub scout uniform? Well, even though the good
supermarket there closed, and diGiovanni's closed, at least Roy's still
cooks up a decent burger. The barbecue joint there stinks, and while the
Chinese restaurant is decent, the owners think they are in downtown DC
and charge corresponding prices. Of course, you could always go across
the bridge and eat at one of the franchise joints in Lex Park, eh?

Psssst! I'll bet John cooks his own meals.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 1:44 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:35:09 -0400, John H. wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:41:51 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/27/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
We returned earlier from a trip to Richmond for a wedding. Spent the weekend in
Pocahontas State Park, just south of Richmond. It's close to I-95 and a great park.
Lots of trails, for walking and bikes. Not at all expensive. No sewage hookup, but
easily accessible dump station. I don't know of any Virginia state parks that have
sewage hookups. We've stated at Lake Anna, Shenandoah River, Pocahontas, and First
Landing State Parks. All have been exceptionally well-maintained and very reasonably
priced. First Landing is a nice bike ride from Virginia Beach.

And, after letters to the state park director, many emails, and a letter to the
governor (all from many folks, I'm sure) the parks no longer charge a fee for pets.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able.

Would you rather I sit in my basement calling names, lying, and displaying my jealous
narcissism, Harry?

~crickets~

Oh, I suppose I'm not 'entitled' to a response.

What unit were you with while gathering dead soldiers in Vietnam, liar?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Crickets or TDC. It really don't matter.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 1:53 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 2:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:03:07 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 2:18 AM, wrote:

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Unless living in airplanes and hotel rooms doesn't appeal to you.
Beautiful scenery and a dark sky make for excellent eclipse viewing.

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.



We watched the eclipse last night from our back yard. There were broken
clouds, but we still managed to see it. No RV needed.

No clouds, no smog, no light pollution, fresh air. It was spectacular
from my vantage point.

Speaking of camping.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:03:07 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 2:18 AM, wrote:

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Unless living in airplanes and hotel rooms doesn't appeal to you.
Beautiful scenery and a dark sky make for excellent eclipse viewing.

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 2:08 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:08:22 UTC-3, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags.. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

What are you blathering about Johnny? I'd love to get a pop-up or one of those fiberglass 'A Frames' for camping. Wife insists on something with a big washroom so we're at an impasse right now.


Problem with you is you think small. Is that why Harrie's your buddie.

Speaking of camping.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:27:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.

Sitting around a nice, big fire with a bunch of friends, watching the sun go down
over the Patuxent, is quite enjoyable.

Of course, you have to have some friends.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Speaking of camping.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:22:55 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 1:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Jealous over what, exactly, JohnnyMop? There's nothing I find appealing
about driving an oversized pick-me-up truck towing an oversized box down
the interstate so I can spend the night in a camp among other RV'ers.
Frankly, your adventures on the highways remind me of the Joads
traveling from Oklahoma to California, except their trip had purpose.

Reminds me of your comments regarding the mini-14!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Speaking of camping.
 

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:35:09 -0400, John H. wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 17:41:51 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/27/15 5:17 PM, John H. wrote:
We returned earlier from a trip to Richmond for a wedding. Spent the weekend in
Pocahontas State Park, just south of Richmond. It's close to I-95 and a great park.
Lots of trails, for walking and bikes. Not at all expensive. No sewage hookup, but
easily accessible dump station. I don't know of any Virginia state parks that have
sewage hookups. We've stated at Lake Anna, Shenandoah River, Pocahontas, and First
Landing State Parks. All have been exceptionally well-maintained and very reasonably
priced. First Landing is a nice bike ride from Virginia Beach.

And, after letters to the state park director, many emails, and a letter to the
governor (all from many folks, I'm sure) the parks no longer charge a fee for pets.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able.

Would you rather I sit in my basement calling names, lying, and displaying my jealous
narcissism, Harry?

~crickets~

Oh, I suppose I'm not 'entitled' to a response.

What unit were you with while gathering dead soldiers in Vietnam, liar?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 2:45 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:05:46 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:27:46 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.

Huh? Are Kalif Swill and FlautelentJim going also?

Please decipher 'Flautelent'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

It's interesting how Harrie's and Donnie's brains are mushing up in
similar fashion.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/15 2:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:03:07 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 2:18 AM, wrote:

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Unless living in airplanes and hotel rooms doesn't appeal to you.
Beautiful scenery and a dark sky make for excellent eclipse viewing.

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.



We watched the eclipse last night from our back yard. There were broken
clouds, but we still managed to see it. No RV needed.

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/15 2:42 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:27:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.

Sitting around a nice, big fire with a bunch of friends, watching the sun go down
over the Patuxent, is quite enjoyable.

Of course, you have to have some friends.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Do you wear your cub scout uniform? Well, even though the good
supermarket there closed, and diGiovanni's closed, at least Roy's still
cooks up a decent burger. The barbecue joint there stinks, and while the
Chinese restaurant is decent, the owners think they are in downtown DC
and charge corresponding prices. Of course, you could always go across
the bridge and eat at one of the franchise joints in Lex Park, eh?

Speaking of camping.
 

On 9/28/2015 2:54 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:11:48 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:22:58 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 1:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Jealous over what, exactly, JohnnyMop? There's nothing I find appealing
about driving an oversized pick-me-up truck towing an oversized box down
the interstate so I can spend the night in a camp among other RV'ers.
Frankly, your adventures on the highways remind me of the Joads
traveling from Oklahoma to California, except their trip had purpose.

The Johnny reminds me of that Randy Quaid guy who acted as Chevy Chase's brother-in-law and came to visit with his family and RV. Snerk!

And three minutes before that post you're talking about wanting an RV.

Do you make sense to yourself, donne'?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Donnie was wanting a tent on wheels. His wife wants a teensy bit more.

Speaking of camping.
 

On Monday, 28 September 2015 15:54:01 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 2:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:03:07 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 2:18 AM, wrote:

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Unless living in airplanes and hotel rooms doesn't appeal to you.
Beautiful scenery and a dark sky make for excellent eclipse viewing.

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.



We watched the eclipse last night from our back yard. There were broken
clouds, but we still managed to see it. No RV needed.

I walked out my front door and viewed the 'blood moon' without the aid of my binoculars of 55-200mm camera lens.

Speaking of camping.
 

On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:27:46 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.

Huh? Are Kalif Swill and FlautelentJim going also?

Speaking of camping.
 

On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:08:22 UTC-3, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags.. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

What are you blathering about Johnny? I'd love to get a pop-up or one of those fiberglass 'A Frames' for camping. Wife insists on something with a big washroom so we're at an impasse right now.