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Keyser Söze September 28th 15 08:09 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On 9/28/15 3:05 PM, True North wrote:
On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:27:46 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.


Huh? Are Kalif Swill and FlautelentJim going also?


Now there's a thought...if that happened, the EPA would have to declare
it a SuperFund site, close it down, and spend a kazillion bucks cleaning
out the slop they'd create.

True North[_2_] September 28th 15 08:11 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:22:58 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 1:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.


Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--


Jealous over what, exactly, JohnnyMop? There's nothing I find appealing
about driving an oversized pick-me-up truck towing an oversized box down
the interstate so I can spend the night in a camp among other RV'ers.
Frankly, your adventures on the highways remind me of the Joads
traveling from Oklahoma to California, except their trip had purpose.


The Johnny reminds me of that Randy Quaid guy who acted as Chevy Chase's brother-in-law and came to visit with his family and RV. Snerk!

John H.[_5_] September 28th 15 08:31 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:01:40 -0500, Justan Olphart wrote:

On 9/28/2015 12:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.


Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Your 5er is nicer than Donnie's house, and Krause doesn't own a house.
Let them cackle all they want.


LOL!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 28th 15 08:32 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:31:04 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:03:07 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 2:18 AM,
wrote:

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Unless living in airplanes and hotel rooms doesn't appeal to you.
Beautiful scenery and a dark sky make for excellent eclipse viewing.


Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 28th 15 08:42 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:04:08 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 28 September 2015 15:54:01 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 2:31 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 09:03:07 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 2:18 AM,
wrote:

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Unless living in airplanes and hotel rooms doesn't appeal to you.
Beautiful scenery and a dark sky make for excellent eclipse viewing.

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.



We watched the eclipse last night from our back yard. There were broken
clouds, but we still managed to see it. No RV needed.


I walked out my front door and viewed the 'blood moon' without the aid of my binoculars of 55-200mm camera lens.


Decipher 'my binoculars of 55-200mm camera lens' please.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 28th 15 08:44 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:59:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 2:42 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:27:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.


Sitting around a nice, big fire with a bunch of friends, watching the sun go down
over the Patuxent, is quite enjoyable.

Of course, you have to have some friends.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Do you wear your cub scout uniform? Well, even though the good
supermarket there closed, and diGiovanni's closed, at least Roy's still
cooks up a decent burger. The barbecue joint there stinks, and while the
Chinese restaurant is decent, the owners think they are in downtown DC
and charge corresponding prices. Of course, you could always go across
the bridge and eat at one of the franchise joints in Lex Park, eh?


Normally we cook together, but we also go to the Ruddy Duck every so often. Don't
need anything on the other side of the bridge.

Learn to cook. Maybe it'll help your disposition and improve your integrity.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 28th 15 08:45 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:05:46 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:27:46 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for the
drunks.


Huh? Are Kalif Swill and FlautelentJim going also?


Please decipher 'Flautelent'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 28th 15 08:54 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 12:11:48 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:22:58 UTC-3, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 1:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--


Jealous over what, exactly, JohnnyMop? There's nothing I find appealing
about driving an oversized pick-me-up truck towing an oversized box down
the interstate so I can spend the night in a camp among other RV'ers.
Frankly, your adventures on the highways remind me of the Joads
traveling from Oklahoma to California, except their trip had purpose.


The Johnny reminds me of that Randy Quaid guy who acted as Chevy Chase's brother-in-law and came to visit with his family and RV. Snerk!


And three minutes before that post you're talking about wanting an RV.

Do you make sense to yourself, donne'?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 28th 15 09:01 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Monday, September 28, 2015 at 3:08:36 PM UTC-4, True North wrote:
On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:08:22 UTC-3, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.


Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!


What are you blathering about Johnny? I'd love to get a pop-up or one of those fiberglass 'A Frames' for camping. Wife insists on something with a big washroom so we're at an impasse right now.


Wait a minute. Here you're putting down those who camp with an RV, and now you're saying you'd love a pop-up or A-frame. A bit two-faced there, no?

What would you tow with? The Highlander? What's the towing capacity? There are some very nice pop-ups that you could probably tow. The secret to the big washroom would be to camp close to the bathhouse. Easy. I'd never consider an A-frame. Cute but impractical as hell.

Be careful, you'd not want Harry to see you wanting an RV.

Califbill September 28th 15 09:24 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
True North wrote:
On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:08:22 UTC-3, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the
Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.


Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!


What are you blathering about Johnny? I'd love to get a pop-up or one of
those fiberglass 'A Frames' for camping. Wife insists on something with a
big washroom so we're at an impasse right now.


She wants the big washroom, so you can wash up after getting pukey drunk,
Donne dumb****.


True North[_2_] September 28th 15 09:42 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
The Johnny spittles...

"Decipher 'my binoculars of 55-200mm camera lens' please."

Make that 'or', Johnny.

Keyser Söze September 28th 15 10:22 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On 9/28/15 3:44 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:59:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:



Normally we cook together, but we also go to the Ruddy Duck every so often.



- - -

Oh, I didn't mention that one because it is really atrocious. It's a bar
that serves food.

There's only three really good restaurants in the area:

Mama Lucia's in Prince Frederick
Jerry's just south of Prince Frederick
Adam's Ribs, a little south of Jerry's.

On Wednesdays between 5 and 6 pm you can get very good fried chicken at
Adam's, carry out or eat in, but it sells out fast. The ribs are very
good, too.

Jerry's has the best seafood in southern Maryland.

Mama's has good Italian food and the best pizza outside of the northeast.


Justan Olphart[_2_] September 28th 15 10:33 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On 9/28/2015 4:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--


When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


Do you have to tip the pilot to stop the plane so you can get out and
snap a picture. Jes wonderin. :-)

Mr. Luddite September 28th 15 10:36 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On 9/28/2015 2:24 PM, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 9/28/2015 1:59 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/28/15 2:42 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:27:44 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 1:11 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"

wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what
the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what
he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those
air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of
those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a
pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel
trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at
the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.

Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each
month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then
straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Wow...four days at Solomons Island. What an adventure! Watch out for
the
drunks.

Sitting around a nice, big fire with a bunch of friends, watching the
sun go down
over the Patuxent, is quite enjoyable.

Of course, you have to have some friends.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Do you wear your cub scout uniform? Well, even though the good
supermarket there closed, and diGiovanni's closed, at least Roy's still
cooks up a decent burger. The barbecue joint there stinks, and while the
Chinese restaurant is decent, the owners think they are in downtown DC
and charge corresponding prices. Of course, you could always go across
the bridge and eat at one of the franchise joints in Lex Park, eh?


Psssst! I'll bet John cooks his own meals.



Duh. Harry never thought of doing that.



[email protected] September 28th 15 10:37 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:11:06 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 03:18:38 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.


Once you get up into that class, 1st class air fare and a suite at the
Marriott starts looking cheap unless you are gone a lot.


Since beginning of March, we've been out at least two weekends each month and a
couple 7-10 trips. Next week we spend four days at Solomons, then straight to
Tennessee for a week. Then things slow down.

I'd say we're getting some good use out of it.


It sounds like a good match for your lifestyle and where you live.
Maybe if we had a lot of close in vacation spots it might make more
sense to me but that is not the case.
The last time we were really camping was lobster diving in the keys
but we figured out we could rent a house with a dock for what all of
those campground fees cost us.

Mr. Luddite September 28th 15 10:40 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On 9/28/2015 2:43 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:22:55 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 1:08 PM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.



Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.




Maybe. . . At least until it rains.



Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--


Jealous over what, exactly, JohnnyMop? There's nothing I find appealing
about driving an oversized pick-me-up truck towing an oversized box down
the interstate so I can spend the night in a camp among other RV'ers.
Frankly, your adventures on the highways remind me of the Joads
traveling from Oklahoma to California, except their trip had purpose.


Reminds me of your comments regarding the mini-14!
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


In other words, if Harry doesn't enjoy it you shouldn't either.



[email protected] September 28th 15 10:50 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--


When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.

Califbill September 28th 15 11:32 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--


When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


We camp in the truck camper or hotels or VRBO places. Depends on the
location. We like some back country lakes in the Sierras, so camping is
great for that.


Wayne.B September 29th 15 12:24 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 13:17:40 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


You could always move to Jacksonville if you need to be near a border.


===

What, and live in the artic north? :-)

They sometimes get snow in Jacksonville and winter frost is common. My
youngest son's inlaws just sold a nice condo on Amelia Island because
it was too cold for them in the winter to play golf every day.

Wayne.B September 29th 15 12:29 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:59:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Do you wear your cub scout uniform? Well, even though the good
supermarket there closed, and diGiovanni's closed, at least Roy's still
cooks up a decent burger. The barbecue joint there stinks, and while the
Chinese restaurant is decent, the owners think they are in downtown DC
and charge corresponding prices. Of course, you could always go across
the bridge and eat at one of the franchise joints in Lex Park, eh?


===

And then there's the CD Cafe, right on the main street and really
quite excellent.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g41382-d518966-Reviews-CD_Cafe-Solomons_Calvert_County_Maryland.html

We've eaten there several times and never had a bad meal.

John H.[_5_] September 29th 15 12:59 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:22:43 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 9/28/15 3:44 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:59:10 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:



Normally we cook together, but we also go to the Ruddy Duck every so often.



- - -

Oh, I didn't mention that one because it is really atrocious. It's a bar
that serves food.

There's only three really good restaurants in the area:

Mama Lucia's in Prince Frederick
Jerry's just south of Prince Frederick
Adam's Ribs, a little south of Jerry's.

On Wednesdays between 5 and 6 pm you can get very good fried chicken at
Adam's, carry out or eat in, but it sells out fast. The ribs are very
good, too.

Jerry's has the best seafood in southern Maryland.

Mama's has good Italian food and the best pizza outside of the northeast.


Your opinion is always desireable - to donne'.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 29th 15 01:08 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:50:29 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--


When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


That sounds ideal. I think if I had stored my boat at Solomons Island, I'd probably
still own it. And, I'd be spending a lot more time using it than I was. The drive
down to Quantico has become a nightmare, sometimes taking over an hour to get there
from the beltway and/or to get back on Sunday.

We look for different things going on near the campgrounds we've been to. Apple
Harvest festivals, bluegrass festivals, etc. I enjoy taking the dogs for hikes, and
the state parks in Virginia. Either next year or the year after we'll take a trip to
Yellowstone and vicinity. I've been there by motorcycle, but my wife's never seen
that neck of the woods.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 29th 15 01:09 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:29 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--


When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


We camp in the truck camper or hotels or VRBO places. Depends on the
location. We like some back country lakes in the Sierras, so camping is
great for that.


There is so much talk of bedbugs, etc, that we both prefer the RV.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

John H.[_5_] September 29th 15 01:10 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 19:29:12 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 14:59:10 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Do you wear your cub scout uniform? Well, even though the good
supermarket there closed, and diGiovanni's closed, at least Roy's still
cooks up a decent burger. The barbecue joint there stinks, and while the
Chinese restaurant is decent, the owners think they are in downtown DC
and charge corresponding prices. Of course, you could always go across
the bridge and eat at one of the franchise joints in Lex Park, eh?


===

And then there's the CD Cafe, right on the main street and really
quite excellent.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g41382-d518966-Reviews-CD_Cafe-Solomons_Calvert_County_Maryland.html

We've eaten there several times and never had a bad meal.


Of course there are only about five tables and a looooong wait. If you don't drink,
the bar is not a fun place to wait.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

[email protected] September 29th 15 02:33 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:33:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 4:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--


When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


Do you have to tip the pilot to stop the plane so you can get out and
snap a picture. Jes wonderin. :-)


If there is something that interesting along the way, we would just
plan a trip there.
We are starting to run out of states. That is why we went to New
Zealand this year.
We have done all the western states and I have seen corn and wheat so
the midwest is not that exciting for us.
Since our kids are in Northern Michigan now, I imagine we will go take
a look at that area.

[email protected] September 29th 15 02:44 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 20:08:23 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 17:50:29 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--


When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


That sounds ideal. I think if I had stored my boat at Solomons Island, I'd probably
still own it. And, I'd be spending a lot more time using it than I was. The drive
down to Quantico has become a nightmare, sometimes taking over an hour to get there
from the beltway and/or to get back on Sunday.

We look for different things going on near the campgrounds we've been to. Apple
Harvest festivals, bluegrass festivals, etc. I enjoy taking the dogs for hikes, and
the state parks in Virginia. Either next year or the year after we'll take a trip to
Yellowstone and vicinity. I've been there by motorcycle, but my wife's never seen
that neck of the woods.


It wasn't an accident that I ended up here. I had been looking at
Florida for most of my life and this area is the least developed down
in the peninsula. It is pretty wild up in the big bend area but it
gets cold.
The problem is a bunch of people followed me. When I moved here,
Estero was less than 2000 people. Now it is 10x that.
Fortunately we voted "20-20" money for the state to buy all of the
land around the river west of us so it will not get any busier down at
this end of the road.

Califbill September 29th 15 02:51 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:29 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--

When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


We camp in the truck camper or hotels or VRBO places. Depends on the
location. We like some back country lakes in the Sierras, so camping is
great for that.


There is so much talk of bedbugs, etc, that we both prefer the RV.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


We just came from a little over 2 weeks in Mission Beach, San Diego.
Rented a nice 3 bedroom condo. Easy walk to the bay and the ocean beaches.
Nice boogie boarding, short drive to Seaforth Landing, took a couple 3/4
day tuna trips. One great trip, one bust of a trip. Only day in 2 months
where near limits of Yellow Fin tuna were not caught. Nice place, good too
cook in, and close to some of the restaurants we like. Camping would not
be as near the beaches, and not as nice facilities. At least in my truck
camper.


Wayne.B September 29th 15 03:36 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:44:33 -0400, wrote:

It wasn't an accident that I ended up here. I had been looking at
Florida for most of my life and this area is the least developed down
in the peninsula. It is pretty wild up in the big bend area but it
gets cold.
The problem is a bunch of people followed me. When I moved here,
Estero was less than 2000 people. Now it is 10x that.
Fortunately we voted "20-20" money for the state to buy all of the
land around the river west of us so it will not get any busier down at
this end of the road.


===

And it's unlikely that the Estero River is going to be inundated by
massive amounts of boat traffic any time soon. It took me a couple of
tries to even find it, and then there are the skinny water issues.

:-)

Justan Olphart[_2_] September 29th 15 04:18 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On 9/28/2015 8:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:33:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 4:50 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--

When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


Do you have to tip the pilot to stop the plane so you can get out and
snap a picture. Jes wonderin. :-)


If there is something that interesting along the way, we would just
plan a trip there.
We are starting to run out of states. That is why we went to New
Zealand this year.
We have done all the western states and I have seen corn and wheat so
the midwest is not that exciting for us.
Since our kids are in Northern Michigan now, I imagine we will go take
a look at that area.

Thankfully we aren't even close to running out of new places to visit
and places we'd like to revisit and explore in more detail.

[email protected] September 29th 15 06:35 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:36:49 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 21:44:33 -0400, wrote:

It wasn't an accident that I ended up here. I had been looking at
Florida for most of my life and this area is the least developed down
in the peninsula. It is pretty wild up in the big bend area but it
gets cold.
The problem is a bunch of people followed me. When I moved here,
Estero was less than 2000 people. Now it is 10x that.
Fortunately we voted "20-20" money for the state to buy all of the
land around the river west of us so it will not get any busier down at
this end of the road.


===

And it's unlikely that the Estero River is going to be inundated by
massive amounts of boat traffic any time soon. It took me a couple of
tries to even find it, and then there are the skinny water issues.

:-)


We like it that way. ;-)

[email protected] September 29th 15 06:42 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 22:18:34 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 8:33 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 16:33:32 -0500, Justan Olphart
wrote:

On 9/28/2015 4:50 PM,
wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--

When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


Do you have to tip the pilot to stop the plane so you can get out and
snap a picture. Jes wonderin. :-)


If there is something that interesting along the way, we would just
plan a trip there.
We are starting to run out of states. That is why we went to New
Zealand this year.
We have done all the western states and I have seen corn and wheat so
the midwest is not that exciting for us.
Since our kids are in Northern Michigan now, I imagine we will go take
a look at that area.

Thankfully we aren't even close to running out of new places to visit
and places we'd like to revisit and explore in more detail.


We still have a few places we would go back to. The house near Mt Hood
is a great place but it was off the rental market the last time we
looked.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Oregon/Mt%20Hood/Cabin.jpg

I would go back there tho. Great hiking in the Mt Hood area,
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Oregon/Mt%2...0the%20PCT.jpg

the gorge is about 40 minutes away if you go down the dirt road.
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Oregon/Mt%2...0and%20ski.jpg


John H.[_5_] September 29th 15 04:52 PM

Speaking of camping.
 
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 18:51:31 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:29 -0700, Califbill billnews wrote:

wrote:
On Mon, 28 Sep 2015 15:32:39 -0400, John H.
wrote:

Living 350 miles from the Florida border and more like 600 from
anywhere I might want to go makes that plane start looking good.


One of the main reasons we decided not to move to Florida was because it would add
all that mileage to any trip we wanted to take.
--

When we go someplace we want something different so that 350 miles
only adds another 35-40 minutes to the plane trip.

I really like it here. I can get in my boat and get out into an
estuary that is pretty unique. We can get away from people and that is
a valuable thing. When we want to see something else, the airport is
about 15 minutes away and the interstate is more like 5.


We camp in the truck camper or hotels or VRBO places. Depends on the
location. We like some back country lakes in the Sierras, so camping is
great for that.


There is so much talk of bedbugs, etc, that we both prefer the RV.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


We just came from a little over 2 weeks in Mission Beach, San Diego.
Rented a nice 3 bedroom condo. Easy walk to the bay and the ocean beaches.
Nice boogie boarding, short drive to Seaforth Landing, took a couple 3/4
day tuna trips. One great trip, one bust of a trip. Only day in 2 months
where near limits of Yellow Fin tuna were not caught. Nice place, good too
cook in, and close to some of the restaurants we like. Camping would not
be as near the beaches, and not as nice facilities. At least in my truck
camper.


This place looks pretty nice!

http://missionbayrvresort.com/

Don't know how the price compares to a condo though. Our rig could only be called a
'two bedroom' at best.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Alex[_4_] September 30th 15 01:13 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
True North wrote:
On Monday, 28 September 2015 14:08:22 UTC-3, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 27 Sep 2015 19:51:47 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:

On 9/27/2015 6:32 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 9/27/15 6:20 PM, True North wrote:
Keyser Söze
- show quoted text -
"Your misuse of the word "camping" is grin-able."

Seems to me there is a new word commonly used to describe what the Johnny and his ilk do.
Believe it's called glaming or something like it. To call what he does
'camping' is an insult to real campers everywhere.


Well, the modern definition is loose enough to cover RV'ing, but
traditional campers must laugh at the sight of all those air-conditioned
portable plastic and aluminum motel rooms on wheels.



Maybe. . . At least until it rains.


Based on the camping people I've known over the years many of those who
enjoy "traditional" camping end up trading in their tents for a pop-up,
then a Travel Trailer or a Class C RV and then to a fifth wheel trailer
or Class A RV. . sorta like having two foot-itist in boating.

Yup, we spent half a dozen years camping with motorcycles, tents and bags. Skipped
the pop-up for a little 19' TT, then moved up to the fifth-wheel.

Watching Krause and Donne' put it down is funny. A touch of jealousy coming through?

--

Ban idiots, not guns!

What are you blathering about Johnny? I'd love to get a pop-up or one of those fiberglass 'A Frames' for camping. Wife insists on something with a big washroom so we're at an impasse right now.


Money is that tight?


Alex[_4_] September 30th 15 01:15 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
True North wrote:
The Johnny spittles...

"Decipher 'my binoculars of 55-200mm camera lens' please."

Make that 'or', Johnny.


You had that opportunity, expert.

Califbill September 30th 15 01:31 AM

Speaking of camping.
 
Mission Bay Campground and the RV park are nice. Long drive from the
ocean, either via Garnet, or Sea World Dr. Cheaper if you have a large RV.
You are looking at about $850 a week with tax, vs. house on Monterey Ct.
In Mission Beach for $2250 a week including taxes.



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