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On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 19:36:16 -0400, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote: On 9/5/2015 5:57 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 9/5/2015 1:51 PM, John H. wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 13:38:53 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 9/5/15 12:55 PM, wrote: On Sat, 5 Sep 2015 11:56:33 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 9/5/15 11:34 AM, wrote: The only reason why this is a religious issue is because she made it one. bingo. I agree, if she simply kept her agenda to herself and dealt with it as a legal matter, she would not be issuing marriage certificates and the only people who could fix that would be the legislature. They are "off" until next year. I still say, there is enough ambiguity in the statute now that any marriage in Ky could be challenged. They might win or lose but there is enough there to bring the case. The clerk has the right not to create that situation. Part of her job by statute is to issue marriage licenses in her county. I'm surprised a litigant didn't have her subjected to a show-cause hearing, or maybe she was. It's more than a little disingenuous of you to present "options" for her nonfeasance. She was elected to perform the duties of her office, *not* to decide on religious grounds which duties to perform and which not to perform. Suppose the head clerk in your motor vehicle department was a Muslim and determined that her religion required her to not issue driver's licenses to women. I wonder if the righties supporting Kim Davis for her religious beliefs would speak up for the Muslim who decided to not issue licenses to women. Yeah, far-fetched, but, after all, one person's religion is another person's curse. Being dense must be a hardship, no? WHAT DOES THE STATUTE SAY, DUMMY? If it says 'one man and one woman' then it's no longer in play. -- Ban idiots, not guns! You don't have a big enough 2x4 to knock sense into KKKrause. The state of Kentucky amended the Kentucky Constitution in 2004 with the following regarding marriages: "Only a marriage between one man and one woman shall be valid or recognized as a marriage in Kentucky. A legal status identical or substantially similar to that of marriage for unmarried individuals shall not be valid or recognized." The amendment was approved by 75 percent of the voters. The SCOTUS didn't write a new law that supersedes the Kentucky law. All it did was confirm that discrimination of same sex marriage couples was unconstitutional. Kim Davis didn't discriminate. She found herself in a dilemma. Not only was it against her religious beliefs, to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples is currently in violation of the Kentucky State Constitution. So, what did she do? She stopped issuing marriage licenses period. No licenses for gay couples. No licenses for heterosexual couples. No discrimination. So what does a federal judge do? Holds her in contempt and throws her in jail. For what? She made the mistake of calling on god and not calling a lawyer. I don't think she wants to be out of jail. She is a martyr in her community and I doubt they are treating her that bad in the slammer. You really do not want to **** off the court clerk if you want any legal paperwork to flow. |
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