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On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 10:18:40 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 3:07 AM, Califbill wrote:
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Got out to the range this morning. Among other things, finally got some
to sight in my 15/22. After fine-tuning of the cheap, chinese red dot, I
put 20 rounds of Gem-Tech 22LR subsonics in a one inch target dot at 30
yards without really trying. The first ten were slow, but the last ten
were rapid fire, shots about one second apart. No bipod or bench rest,
just elbows on the table. I really like this rifle, sweet shooting and
has a good stock trigger. The stamp for the can should be here any day.
Squirrels beware!


Red dots are not a scope. They are for fast acquisition of target. I have
an M&P in 5.62 shoots well. Thinking of mounting the Leopold scope on my
.06 on it.


Oh, I was wondering who was shooting squirrels. Figures.


Oh, I was wondering who was supposedly buying expensive guns without paying their taxes. Figures.
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 11:01:35 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 8/23/15 10:53 AM, wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 10:00:42 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 8/23/15 12:58 AM,
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.


We don't hear about much bravery from you. Why is that how you frame
every argument?
How brave is it to go buy a chicken from Giant?


Hey, last year I stopped a guy who was verbally abusing and manhandling
a woman, and suffered a broken wrist for my trouble, an injury that at
best is only 90% "healed."


I guess it is brave to pick a fight with someone who kicked your ass.



Sorry, shooting squirrels or just about any critter just isn't something
that I see as brave or sporting. But, of course, opinions vary.

Why is bravery an issue here at all, it is just harvesting food.

In the case of the 170 pound rat (white tail deer) thinning the herd
is good for the environment and the deer population as a whole.
I suppose you also have a problem with hog hunters. I imagine you will
change your mind when they invade your neighborhood in mass.
a dozen wild hogs will make your yard look like a drunk on a back hoe
was practicing all night.
It will take a brave person to try to run them off with a broom.

Takes no bravery to buy a chicken from Giant or, I suppose, Publix.
Buying one from Wal-Mart, though...not something I would do.


So you just hire a hit man. I do to but I don't then criticize killing
the animal.
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
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On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 8/22/15 11:38 AM,
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On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
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On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote:
Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range
punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a
better option to the SKS.



Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks?

The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I
suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering.

Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my
cheap ammo of choice.

100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy
access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me,
and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver
really accurately at 50 yards or more...

The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is
better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can.
If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat.
The world is awash with it.



Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass
cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic
300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that.

I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived
that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had
nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it.


The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the
barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun
noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly
out of a hand gun.

Have you tried these
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose

I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed
rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain
down range performance.

Why not use .22 shorts?


I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.


If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so).
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On 8/22/15 9:08 PM, Tim wrote:
Around here and at their peak shorts were 4.40 bucks a hundred and were
available. That was when you couldn't find anything else too.



When I started driving legally, gasoline was 19 cents a gallon.


... and shorts were 55 cents a box at the 7-11.


Longs were 50 cents a box. I have a partial brick that has a $13 price to
on it.
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/22/15 11:30 PM, Tim wrote:
On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 6:09:45 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/22/15 9:08 PM, Tim wrote:
Around here and at their peak shorts were 4.40 bucks a hundred and
were available. That was when you couldn't find anything else too.



When I started driving legally, gasoline was 19 cents a gallon.



Thats wonderful.


Oh, I thought you were reminiscing about the good old day when stuff was cheap.


When I started driving gas wars still rages. Just before I started
driving, the sign said pay the tax. 11 cents. But I made $1.25 an hour in
a service station my senior year in HS. So was 5 gallons an hour if you
exclude income taxes.
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On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 11:38 AM,
wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote:
Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range
punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a
better option to the SKS.



Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks?

The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I
suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering.

Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my
cheap ammo of choice.

100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy
access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me,
and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver
really accurately at 50 yards or more...

The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is
better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can.
If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat.
The world is awash with it.



Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass
cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic
300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that.

I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived
that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had
nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it.


The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the
barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun
noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly
out of a hand gun.

Have you tried these
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose

I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed
rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain
down range performance.

Why not use .22 shorts?

I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what
you do.



Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make
squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue.


If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so).


Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in
his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough
assed boar.
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