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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:23:31 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 6:06:25 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both are requirements for "meat" to be kosher. Leviticus 11:3-8: Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher. Eat anything you want, it's all "Kosher" https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NRSV Harry is talking about observant Jews, not the heretic Christians with their "new" bible. ;-) |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote: Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd. Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it? Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and sodapop bottles? Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal is not. So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run into a petulant pomeranian? We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared. There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the lawn Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River? Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart. My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't. No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't think exactly like you about things. It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or even someone with credible environmental credentials. My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is just too existential for you. It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who kills for food is the target of your "disdain". I guess you know, democrats hunt too? It is not all just republicans. Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40 years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the desire to **** on people who do. So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me know how that works out for you. I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport hunting" or "sport hunters." They why won't you shut the **** up about it? This is just more of your trolling. Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is that a new rule that you follow? The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position without an ad hominem personal attack. It seems to elude you. What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have no desire or need to try to win you over to my side. You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person. |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 16:44:41 -0400, Justan Olphart wrote:
On 8/24/2015 3:10 PM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:21:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/24/2015 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't. No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't think exactly like you about things. It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or even someone with credible environmental credentials. That's just Harry's style. Ironically, it's also Donald Trump's style. It's why I got sick of attempting any discussion with Harry. He reverts to dishonesty in his accusations (i.e. if you don't like or support Hilary you are automatically a "right-winger"). That's bull****. True. Your dishonesty is downright bull****. -- Ban idiots, not guns! And his bull**** is downright dishonest. He's in big trouble now. Calling Luddite a liar. Sheeesh. Luddite was his last friend of any consequence. The Krause is hanging onto Luddite's every word. Must be bothersome for him. Another person fed up with his bull****. Gosh, if Donne' gets fed up, who will poor Krausee have? Damn shame. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:26:56 -0400, "Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 8/24/2015 4:44 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 8/24/2015 3:10 PM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:21:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/24/2015 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't. No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't think exactly like you about things. It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or even someone with credible environmental credentials. That's just Harry's style. Ironically, it's also Donald Trump's style. It's why I got sick of attempting any discussion with Harry. He reverts to dishonesty in his accusations (i.e. if you don't like or support Hilary you are automatically a "right-winger"). That's bull****. True. Your dishonesty is downright bull****. -- Ban idiots, not guns! And his bull**** is downright dishonest. He's in big trouble now. Calling Luddite a liar. Sheeesh. Luddite was his last friend of any consequence. Heh. Harry says, "That's bull****"? Holy crap. I lost count of the number of times I pointed out to him that I am not "anti-Democrat" ... I am anti-Hillary. I even expressed hope that other more qualified Dems declare their candidacy. But it doesn't matter to him. Because I can't support his preference of a POTUS nominee, he continued referring the GOP as being "my party" or Jeb Bush "my man". Since he only has one criteria by which he categorizes *all* Republicans (republi-trash) it follows that he includes me in that group. That's dishonest, but it's par for the course in Harry's world I guess. I am neither a Republican or a Democrat, a group that Harry doesn't think exists apparently, yet Independents make up the majority of voters. The boy's called me a racist for several years now, which is as much a lie as my killing women and children in Vietnam. When has the truth ever mattered to Krause? When you stop and think about it, being called a 'Republican' isn't all that bad. Could be worse. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 18:32:28 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 6:26 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/24/2015 4:44 PM, Justan Olphart wrote: On 8/24/2015 3:10 PM, John H. wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 14:21:47 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 2:05 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 8/24/2015 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't. No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't think exactly like you about things. It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or even someone with credible environmental credentials. That's just Harry's style. Ironically, it's also Donald Trump's style. It's why I got sick of attempting any discussion with Harry. He reverts to dishonesty in his accusations (i.e. if you don't like or support Hilary you are automatically a "right-winger"). That's bull****. True. Your dishonesty is downright bull****. -- Ban idiots, not guns! And his bull**** is downright dishonest. He's in big trouble now. Calling Luddite a liar. Sheeesh. Luddite was his last friend of any consequence. Heh. Harry says, "That's bull****"? Holy crap. I lost count of the number of times I pointed out to him that I am not "anti-Democrat" ... I am anti-Hillary. I even expressed hope that other more qualified Dems declare their candidacy. But it doesn't matter to him. Because I can't support his preference of a POTUS nominee, he continued referring the GOP as being "my party" or Jeb Bush "my man". Since he only has one criteria by which he categorizes *all* Republicans (republi-trash) it follows that he includes me in that group. That's dishonest, but it's par for the course in Harry's world I guess. I am neither a Republican or a Democrat, a group that Harry doesn't think exists apparently, yet Independents make up the majority of voters. My preference for a candidate is the Democrat who will beat any Republican nominee. ...which proves my inability to think for myself. Fixed. -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
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On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:57:43 -0400, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:02:31 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: I was referring to animals with hooves who chew their cud as kosher meat. I suppose that was far too abstract for the boys here. === You have told us many times that it's all superstition, kosher and everything else. You can't have it both ways so sit down, shutup, and eat that guinea pig. LOL! -- Ban idiots, not guns! |
S&W M&P 15/22
On 8/24/15 10:23 PM, Tim wrote:
On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 6:06:25 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 8:48 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 7:50 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 3:48 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote: Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS. Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? :) The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering. Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my cheap ammo of choice. 100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me, and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver really accurately at 50 yards or more... :) The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can. If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat. The world is awash with it. Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic 300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that. I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it. The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly out of a hand gun. Have you tried these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain down range performance. Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue. If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so). Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough assed boar. -- Good grief, the stupid runs deep in you, Herring. Did you make these for your grandkids, Mr. Brave White Hunter? http://tinyurl.com/oy7azwl Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats, prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits. Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a brave hunter and sportsman/woman. Guinea pig is tough and greasy. At least the one I was served in Peru. They are raised there for food. The Last Supper paining in the city of Cusco main church has a roasted guinea Pig on the platter. I'll be glad to take your word on that. :) Why would guinea pig be not kosher? Not really swine. Pics http://www.delange.org/CathedralCusc...edralCusco.htm Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both are requirements for "meat" to be kosher. Leviticus 11:3-8: Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher. Eat anything you want, it's all "Kosher" https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NRSV Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite. |
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On 8/25/15 1:23 AM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 9:12 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 19:25:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 6:53 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:41:32 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 12:20 PM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 12:05:24 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 11:59 AM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:29:42 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 11:16 AM, wrote: On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 10:44:40 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/24/15 10:36 AM, wrote: Shooting. Target practice. Oh, and your concept of "winning" is absurd. Is it a sport? Do you feel brave when you do it? Why would I feel like a "brave, great white hunter" shooting targets and sodapop bottles? Oh, competitive target/range shooting is a sport. Killing a dumb animal is not. So why do you need to bring up "brave" in the first place? How brave are you walking around in the woods packing heat in case you might run into a petulant pomeranian? We have hiked all over the west where you see rattlesnakes, wolves and bears. I never felt the need to pack and I was never really scared. There are black bears and cougars (AKA Florida Panthers) within walking distance of my house. I am not scared at all when I mow the lawn Why do you think your experience or lack of it with bears and cougars is relevant to the packs of feral dogs that were and maybe still are active around some of the trails above the Shenandoah River? Sounds like an irrational fear to me mr braveheart. My use of the term "brave white hunter" is sarcastic and literary, by the way. In case you don't get it. Which, apparently, you don't. No I do not understand why you need to **** on everyone who doesn't think exactly like you about things. It is not like you are standing on the moral high ground of a vegan or even someone with credible environmental credentials. My disdain for "great white hunters" and their "sport" has nothing to do with vegetarianism or environmentalism. If you think that, perhaps it is just too existential for you. It is just not a position that makes much sense when you step back and look at it. You have no problem killing for food, as long as you don't have to watch and you don't mind killing a stray dog but someone who kills for food is the target of your "disdain". I guess you know, democrats hunt too? It is not all just republicans. Just to put this in perspective, I have not hunted for close to 40 years but I still defend the right to do it and I do not feel the desire to **** on people who do. So, everyone should feel and behave as you do on this issue, eh? Let me know how that works out for you. I don't give a **** whether you hunt or not. I don't like "sport hunting" or "sport hunters." They why won't you shut the **** up about it? This is just more of your trolling. Oh, I see. We're not supposed to mention here what we don't like. Is that a new rule that you follow? The rule I always follow is to be able to debate someone's position without an ad hominem personal attack. It seems to elude you. What's to debate? You're in favor of sport hunting and I am not. I have no desire or need to try to win you over to my side. You lump,all hunting into sport hunting. Very narrow minded person. Wrong again, Bilious. I don't believe all hunting is sport hunting. |
S&W M&P 15/22
On Tuesday, August 25, 2015 at 3:40:54 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/24/15 10:23 PM, Tim wrote: On Sunday, August 23, 2015 at 6:06:25 PM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 8:48 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 7:50 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 3:48 PM, John H. wrote: On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 13:53:06 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/23/15 12:58 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:18:18 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Saturday, August 22, 2015 at 10:10:01 AM UTC-7, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 11:50:39 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 11:38 AM, wrote: On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 09:53:34 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 8/22/15 9:38 AM, Tim wrote: Cheap ammo? Yes and no. I like the Russian for its close range punch. Besides I have several a few other .223. This would be a better option to the SKS. Close range punch? Destroying concrete blocks? :) The only 30 caliber I recall shooting is a 300 blackout, which, I suppose, is wimpy compared to the round you're considering. Wolf Gold in .223 is back down under 30 cents a round again. It's my cheap ammo of choice. 100 yards is the farthest distance for shooting to which I have easy access, and for popping targets, .223 and .357 MAG do the job for me, and, if I aim high enough, .22LR. Now, if I could only shoot my revolver really accurately at 50 yards or more... :) The redeeming thing I have heard about the .300 blackout is it is better in sub sonic, which would be important if you have a can. If you just want to shoot a lot, the price of 7.62x39 is hard to beat. The world is awash with it. Brass cased 7.62x39 is just a penny or so a round cheaper than brass cased .223. Brass cased 300 blackout is twice as expensive. The subsonic 300 blackout is substantially more expensive than that. I have some bricks of "suppressor" .22LR ammo, but I haven't perceived that it is quieter than CCI's standard velocity ammo, which can be had nowadays for seven to 10 cents a round if you keep an eye out for it. The subsonic thing mostly affects the sound down range. Behind the barrel you don't hear much of the crack but you get all of the gun noise. 22rf drops below super sonic pretty fast anyway, particularly out of a hand gun. Have you tried these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/250...ead-round-nose I have a couple bricks and they seem very quiet in an unsupressed rifle. They make up for the low speed with more weight to maintain down range performance. Why not use .22 shorts? I think that 65gr bullet would do better on squirrels if that is what you do. Ahh, squirrel hunting...that's what brave men do, because they can make squirrelskin caps for their grandkids and grill the meat on the barbecue. If you live in an Italian boarding house, was squirrel cachetore (so). Krause considers squirrel hunting a show of courage. Probably never ate squirrel in his life. I prefer rabbit, but squirrel's not bad, unless it's a 15 year-old tough assed boar. -- Good grief, the stupid runs deep in you, Herring. Did you make these for your grandkids, Mr. Brave White Hunter? http://tinyurl.com/oy7azwl Oh, you're right...I don't eat rodents like squirrels, mice, rats, prairie dogs, porcupines, beavers, guinea pigs, or hamsters. Or rabbits. Now, if you are hunting armed only with a camera and you get real close to wild animals who can rip off and eat your face, then...you are a brave hunter and sportsman/woman. Guinea pig is tough and greasy. At least the one I was served in Peru. They are raised there for food. The Last Supper paining in the city of Cusco main church has a roasted guinea Pig on the platter. I'll be glad to take your word on that. :) Why would guinea pig be not kosher? Not really swine. Pics http://www.delange.org/CathedralCusc...edralCusco.htm Because it doesn't chew its cud and it doesn't have split hooves. Both are requirements for "meat" to be kosher. Leviticus 11:3-8: Whatever parts the hoof and is cloven-footed and chews the cud, among the animals, you may eat. Thus, the guinea pig is not kosher. Eat anything you want, it's all "Kosher" https://www.biblegateway.com/passage...6&version=NRSV Oh. Well, my guess is that Jews who observe their religion's dietary laws don't really give a tinker's dam about your religion's rewrite. http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/MTIwMFgxNjAw/z/3EoAAOSwuMFUgLqD/$_1.JPG |
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