Talk about "black" humor...
 

....of course, you have to understand the term "black" humor...which
would be a stretch for most posters here.

An Algerian-born Irish citizen, Ali Charaf Damache, will not be
extradited to the United States to stand trial for allegedly conspiring
to use online chat rooms to recruit American women into a potential
terrorist cell. The reason the high court in Ireland has given is not
whether or not Mr. Damache is guilty or innocent, it's because the
United States judicial system and more specifically their "supermax"
solitary-confinement prison system amounts to cruel and inhumane punishment:

In her judgement, Ms Justice Donnelly said there was no meaningful
judicial review available in the US of the conditions of detention and
the necessity for same.

Mr Damache’s main complaint was in relation to the allegedly
inhuman conditions he would be detained in if he was extradited. The
judge decided that “the institutionalisation of solitary confinement
with its routine isolation from meaningful contact and communication
with staff and other inmates, for a prolonged pre-determined period of
at least 18 months and continuing almost certainly for many years,
amounts to a breach of the constitutional requirement to protect persons
from inhuman and degrading treatment and to respect the dignity of the
human being.�


What the Irish judge is referring to is the United States' supermax
prison in Colorado:

Opened in 1994, the Colorado supermax prison is the toughest and
most controversial correctional facility in the U.S. federal system.

It is dubbed the "Alcatraz of the Rockies," and has housed some of
the nation's most notorious prisoners, including Timothy McVeigh, the
Oklahoma City bomber; and Ramzi Yousef, the 1993 World Trade Center
bomber. No one has ever escaped.

Food is delivered through a slit in the cell door. Family visits
are banned, conversations with others are restricted, and rarely, if
ever, do inmates glimpse a tree or a bird through a window. They spend
days and nights alone.

http://tinyurl.com/q2f8d2f

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Yes, it's just awful. Why don't you leave before you're indicted for
tax evasion by this terrible repressive country? If you are, I'm
looking forward to hearing your first hand reports about the penal
system.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Yes, it's just awful. Why don't you leave before you're indicted for
tax evasion by this terrible repressive country? If you are, I'm
looking forward to hearing your first hand reports about the penal
system.

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with
our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal
justice system?

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/10/2015 3:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with
our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal
justice system?

Good grief.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/10/15 4:00 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 8/10/2015 3:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with
our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal
justice system?

Good grief.

Ask any of the GOP wannabe's running for POTUS. Almost all of them will
tell you that we have to make all abortions illegal, but they have no
plans of how to take decent care of the babies that are born into
poverty, and no plans to take care of those impoverished children
already here.

Fetuses matter in America. The lives of impoverished children do not.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Monday, August 10, 2015 at 3:58:11 PM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with
our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal
justice system?

our "criminal criminal justice system"?

You mean the one run and administered by a bunch of liberal arts educated folks? That can't be right.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you?

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in the
world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as many
as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with our
"fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal justice system?

Because most countries remove those really bad criminals from the gene
pool. Put a couple together and let the survivor have a cell.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

Why do you believe that? Hell, we give prisoners better care than the
indigent. TV, medical, including gender realignment, food, recreation
enters. Even those who should have been executed 30 years previous.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in the
world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as many
as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with our
"fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal justice system?

Because most countries remove those really bad criminals from the gene
pool. Put a couple together and let the survivor have a cell.


Cites for "most"?
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in the
world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as many
as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with our
"fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal justice system?

Because most countries remove those really bad criminals from the gene
pool. Put a couple together and let the survivor have a cell.


Cites for "most"?

And the rest of my statement?

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/10/15 8:08 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in the
world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as many
as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with our
"fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal justice system?

Because most countries remove those really bad criminals from the gene
pool. Put a couple together and let the survivor have a cell.


Cites for "most"?

And the rest of my statement?


I'm just wondering how "most" modern, western nations remove, as you
claim, the "really bad criminals from the gene pool," and why you assume
that putting a "couple" together results in a fight to the death, which
is what I think you are alluding to here.

It's just more of your right-wing bull****, right?

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 8:08 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in the
world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as many
as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with our
"fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal justice system?

Because most countries remove those really bad criminals from the gene
pool. Put a couple together and let the survivor have a cell.


Cites for "most"?

And the rest of my statement?


I'm just wondering how "most" modern, western nations remove, as you
claim, the "really bad criminals from the gene pool," and why you assume
that putting a "couple" together results in a fight to the death, which
is what I think you are alluding to here.

It's just more of your right-wing bull****, right?

Actually, at least one of the Scandinavian countries, no death penalty, but
average lifespan is 5 years. Maybe, lack of TV, etc. causes severe desire
to end a life sentence.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 8:08 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in the
world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as many
as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with our
"fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal justice system?

Because most countries remove those really bad criminals from the gene
pool. Put a couple together and let the survivor have a cell.


Cites for "most"?

And the rest of my statement?


I'm just wondering how "most" modern, western nations remove, as you
claim, the "really bad criminals from the gene pool," and why you assume
that putting a "couple" together results in a fight to the death, which
is what I think you are alluding to here.

It's just more of your right-wing bull****, right?

Actually, at least one of the Scandinavian countries, no death penalty, but
average lifespan is 5 years. Maybe, lack of TV, etc. causes severe desire
to end a life sentence.

One unnamed country is most, eh?
--
Sent from my iPhone 6+

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:09:43 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

Why do you believe that? Hell, we give prisoners better care than the
indigent. TV, medical, including gender realignment, food, recreation
enters. Even those who should have been executed 30 years previous.

===

Maybe we should be wondering why Harry is suddenly so concerned about
conditions in federal prisons?

Evil grin. :-)

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/10/2015 10:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:09:43 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

Why do you believe that? Hell, we give prisoners better care than the
indigent. TV, medical, including gender realignment, food, recreation
enters. Even those who should have been executed 30 years previous.

===

Maybe we should be wondering why Harry is suddenly so concerned about
conditions in federal prisons?

Evil grin. :-)

Trying to feather his bed?


--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 8:08 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
Califbill billnews wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in the
world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as many
as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with our
"fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal justice system?

Because most countries remove those really bad criminals from the gene
pool. Put a couple together and let the survivor have a cell.


Cites for "most"?

And the rest of my statement?


I'm just wondering how "most" modern, western nations remove, as you
claim, the "really bad criminals from the gene pool," and why you assume
that putting a "couple" together results in a fight to the death, which
is what I think you are alluding to here.

It's just more of your right-wing bull****, right?

Actually, at least one of the Scandinavian countries, no death penalty, but
average lifespan is 5 years. Maybe, lack of TV, etc. causes severe desire
to end a life sentence.

One unnamed country is most, eh?

According to liberal Democrats. Yes.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:58:09 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with
our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal
justice system?

If you are saying we should abort every fetus conceived by an unwed
girl, I agree that would go a long way towards solving the crime and
welfare state problems but I bet you would call that racist too.

Why don't we just dump our super max population into Ireland and see
if that changes their opinion. We have enough to sprinkle them all
over Scandinavia too. Let's see how they feel about the super max
then.

BTW wasn't our super max program what everyone on the left was saying
could replace Gitmo?

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:58:09 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with
our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal
justice system?

BTW Ireland has far from clean hands in this prison thing. The hell
hole where they dumped their IRA terrorists was condemned by Amnesty
International too.
(Portlaoise)
Most of those enlightened countries you like to wax on lyrically about
have super max type units in at least one of their prisons.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 01:00:30 -0400, wrote:

Most of those enlightened countries you like to wax on lyrically about
have super max type units in at least one of their prisons.

===

Otherwise how would you deal with offenders within the prison system?
It's all political BS by people who have never had to manage criminals
in the real world.

Harry doesn't need to worry about any of this as long as he behaves
himself in the white color slam where he'll be sent.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/11/2015 1:29 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 01:00:30 -0400, wrote:

Most of those enlightened countries you like to wax on lyrically about
have super max type units in at least one of their prisons.

===

Otherwise how would you deal with offenders within the prison system?
It's all political BS by people who have never had to manage criminals
in the real world.

Harry doesn't need to worry about any of this as long as he behaves
himself in the white color slam where he'll be sent.


If they are going to throw harry in the clink, they better hurry up. The
grim reaper also has eyes on Harry. Without any substantial bone
structure, owing to his osteopenia, he is looking more and more like a
sack of ****e.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:58:09 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world,

Look at the stats for Chicago, Flint, PG County, LA, etc, and maybe you'll get an
idea. What a dip****, Krause.

and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population?

Might it have something to do with illegal immigration?
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 00:41:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:58:09 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with
our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal
justice system?

If you are saying we should abort every fetus conceived by an unwed
girl, I agree that would go a long way towards solving the crime and
welfare state problems but I bet you would call that racist too.

That probably won't get answered. But it's a great idea.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:56:13 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you?

Halifax, for starters.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/11/15 3:06 PM, John H. wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 00:41:25 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 15:58:09 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 3:43 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 14:58:40 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You have to view that in the light of the fact that we have some of
the worst criminals in the world. In some populations, there is a
culture of murder and mayhem where regular prison is simply a
finishing school. You only have to look at the symbols people try to
defend, like saggy pants, to see that. (a clear reference to prison
life)

If they were not in isolation, these guys would still be running their
criminal enterprises against society from inside the prison. A lot
still do.



Do you ever ask yourself why "we" have some of the worst criminals in
the world, and why other modern, western nations do not have nearly as
many as a percentage of population? Might it have something to do with
our "fetuses matter but lives do not" society, and our criminal criminal
justice system?

If you are saying we should abort every fetus conceived by an unwed
girl, I agree that would go a long way towards solving the crime and
welfare state problems but I bet you would call that racist too.

That probably won't get answered. But it's a great idea.
--


Yes, I am sure in your heart of hears (that is, if you had a heart),
you'd like nothing better than to force an abortion on every non-white
unmarried pregnant girl, and probably on the married ones, too. But, of
course, aren't there still more "whites" on welfare than people of
color? How would you juggle your claims of racism with that fact worked
into the "solution" you propose?

Oh, and no, I'm not saying we should "abort every fetus...blah, blah,
blah."

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/11/2015 3:07 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:56:13 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you?

Halifax, for starters.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Halifax? Socialized medicine? Crappy healthcare? They've been promising
to fix Donnie's mussel aches for a year now. Ya, maybe that's where
KKKrause needs to go.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan

Laugh of the day from Krause

"I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here.
I've been "born again" as a nice guy."

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:30:18 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 8/11/2015 3:07 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:56:13 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you?

Halifax, for starters.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Halifax? Socialized medicine? Crappy healthcare? They've been promising
to fix Donnie's mussel aches for a year now. Ya, maybe that's where
KKKrause needs to go.

He'd be much happier there, I do believe. If, that is, he's capable of happiness,
which I do doubt.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:19:54 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


One solution to our horrific prisons is to moderate the SuperMax
facilities

The super max was started because regular maximum se4curity prisons
were not effectively controlling some prisoners.


to get the private sector out of the prison-for-profit
business altogether. If and when "society" wants to put people away,
it's representatives ought to be *directly* responsible for the outcomes
and conditions, and they ought not to be able to hide behind
"corporations uber alles."

That is another issue and as far as I know all of the federal super
max prisons are run by the FBOP.
Do you know one that isn't?

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/11/15 5:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:19:54 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


One solution to our horrific prisons is to moderate the SuperMax
facilities

The super max was started because regular maximum se4curity prisons
were not effectively controlling some prisoners.


to get the private sector out of the prison-for-profit
business altogether. If and when "society" wants to put people away,
it's representatives ought to be *directly* responsible for the outcomes
and conditions, and they ought not to be able to hide behind
"corporations uber alles."

That is another issue and as far as I know all of the federal super
max prisons are run by the FBOP.
Do you know one that isn't?



My comment was to moderate the SuperMax prisons and to get the private
sector out of the prison business. You obviously are not reading
carefully before you post.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:41:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/11/15 5:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:19:54 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


One solution to our horrific prisons is to moderate the SuperMax
facilities

The super max was started because regular maximum se4curity prisons
were not effectively controlling some prisoners.


to get the private sector out of the prison-for-profit
business altogether. If and when "society" wants to put people away,
it's representatives ought to be *directly* responsible for the outcomes
and conditions, and they ought not to be able to hide behind
"corporations uber alles."

That is another issue and as far as I know all of the federal super
max prisons are run by the FBOP.
Do you know one that isn't?



My comment was to moderate the SuperMax prisons and to get the private
sector out of the prison business. You obviously are not reading
carefully before you post.

Go read your sentence, dim bulb:

One solution to our horrific prisons is to moderate the SuperMax
facilities to get the private sector out of the prison-for-profit
business altogether.

Just what does the phrase, '...to get the private sector...altogether.' modify if not
'to moderate the SuperMax facilities...".

And you consider yourself a 'writer'. There was no 'and' in the sentence.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:41:16 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 8/11/15 5:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:19:54 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


One solution to our horrific prisons is to moderate the SuperMax
facilities

The super max was started because regular maximum se4curity prisons
were not effectively controlling some prisoners.


to get the private sector out of the prison-for-profit
business altogether. If and when "society" wants to put people away,
it's representatives ought to be *directly* responsible for the outcomes
and conditions, and they ought not to be able to hide behind
"corporations uber alles."

That is another issue and as far as I know all of the federal super
max prisons are run by the FBOP.
Do you know one that isn't?



My comment was to moderate the SuperMax prisons and to get the private
sector out of the prison business. You obviously are not reading
carefully before you post.

Either you are changing the subject again (federal super max prisons
are not privately managed) or you are not reading.

You also never explained how you would "moderate" these prisons and
still control the worst of the worst either.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 18:58:00 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:41:16 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/11/15 5:33 PM, wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 15:19:54 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:


One solution to our horrific prisons is to moderate the SuperMax
facilities

The super max was started because regular maximum se4curity prisons
were not effectively controlling some prisoners.


to get the private sector out of the prison-for-profit
business altogether. If and when "society" wants to put people away,
it's representatives ought to be *directly* responsible for the outcomes
and conditions, and they ought not to be able to hide behind
"corporations uber alles."

That is another issue and as far as I know all of the federal super
max prisons are run by the FBOP.
Do you know one that isn't?



My comment was to moderate the SuperMax prisons and to get the private
sector out of the prison business. You obviously are not reading
carefully before you post.

Go read your sentence, dim bulb:

One solution to our horrific prisons is to moderate the SuperMax
facilities to get the private sector out of the prison-for-profit
business altogether.

Just what does the phrase, '...to get the private sector...altogether.' modify if not
'to moderate the SuperMax facilities...".

And you consider yourself a 'writer'. There was no 'and' in the sentence.

Harry just posts his opinions about unrelated things and then
complains when we say he is changing the subject.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 16:30:17 UTC-3, Justan Olphat wrote:
On 8/11/2015 3:07 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:56:13 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you?

Halifax, for starters.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Halifax? Socialized medicine? Crappy healthcare? They've been promising
to fix Donnie's mussel aches for a year now. Ya, maybe that's where
KKKrause needs to go.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan



"Mussel aches"...what are you blathering about Stinky. I rarely eat mussels certainly don't own any!

Talk about "black" humor...
 

Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:09:43 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote:

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.
===
Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no talking
to other inmates while in cell.

Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?
Why do you believe that? Hell, we give prisoners better care than the
indigent. TV, medical, including gender realignment, food, recreation
enters. Even those who should have been executed 30 years previous.
===

Maybe we should be wondering why Harry is suddenly so concerned about
conditions in federal prisons?

Evil grin. :-)


He can't come up with $4000? That's sad.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On 8/11/15 8:19 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 16:30:17 UTC-3, Justan Olphat wrote:
On 8/11/2015 3:07 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:56:13 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you?

Halifax, for starters.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Halifax? Socialized medicine? Crappy healthcare? They've been promising
to fix Donnie's mussel aches for a year now. Ya, maybe that's where
KKKrause needs to go.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan



"Mussel aches"...what are you blathering about Stinky. I rarely eat mussels certainly don't own any!


If you don't eat the shells, you aren't likely to have "mussel aches,"
unless you are FlaJim, who apparently can't ride a motorcycle so has a
tricycle instead.

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:19:09 -0700 (PDT), True North wrote:

On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 16:30:17 UTC-3, Justan Olphat wrote:
On 8/11/2015 3:07 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:56:13 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you?

Halifax, for starters.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Halifax? Socialized medicine? Crappy healthcare? They've been promising
to fix Donnie's mussel aches for a year now. Ya, maybe that's where
KKKrause needs to go.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan



"Mussel aches"...what are you blathering about Stinky. I rarely eat mussels certainly don't own any!

For you only a few would be necessary.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!

Talk about "black" humor...
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2015 20:27:13 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 8/11/15 8:19 PM, True North wrote:
On Tuesday, 11 August 2015 16:30:17 UTC-3, Justan Olphat wrote:
On 8/11/2015 3:07 PM, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 18:56:13 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote:

On 8/10/2015 2:58 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 8/10/15 2:15 PM, Califbill wrote:

On Mon, 10 Aug 2015 13:03:22 -0400, Keyser Söze
wrote:

Oh, the Irish also don't have capital punishment. We are indeed a
backwards nation in so many ways.

===

Sounds like a standard Japanese prison. 23 hours a day in cell, no
talking
to other inmates while in cell.


Does it make you proud that we are among the worst of the worst among
so-called modern, civilized nations, Bill?

You deserve better. You know where to go, don't you?

Halifax, for starters.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!


Halifax? Socialized medicine? Crappy healthcare? They've been promising
to fix Donnie's mussel aches for a year now. Ya, maybe that's where
KKKrause needs to go.

--

Respectfully submitted by Justan



"Mussel aches"...what are you blathering about Stinky. I rarely eat mussels certainly don't own any!


If you don't eat the shells, you aren't likely to have "mussel aches,"
unless you are FlaJim, who apparently can't ride a motorcycle so has a
tricycle instead.

And you with a moped you brag about?

What a joke, Krause.
--

Ban idiots, not guns!