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Why the silence from JohnH?
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On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 19:15:57 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/23/15 6:57 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 7/23/2015 6:47 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/23/15 5:47 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:19:20 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/23/15 4:58 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 15:54:31 -0400, Justan Olphat wrote: On 7/23/2015 3:29 PM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 7/23/15 3:22 PM, wrote: On Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:36:31 -0500, Califbill billnews wrote: If you set up a building trades table at career day, you would be a pretty lonely guy. That must be why there is a waiting list in most of the skilled trades nationwide to get into union-contractor apprenticeship programs. Slackers all, looking for handouts. Union apprenticeship programs are really designed to limit the number of people coming into the trade and they have a very limited number of slots. Not for the reasons you think you know. That is certainly not what they say but if they really wanted more people in the trade, they would have more slots. It is like the AMAS, they bitch about the lack of doctors, then do everything they can to limit the number who can be there. The industry that should be limiting the numbers are lawyers and we crank out 100,000 more every year Adding "more slots" requires spending millions more on facilities, training trainers, paying trainers, and much more. It takes three to five years to properly train in the classroom and on the job a qualified journeyman or woman. You apparently think the training is done via some sort of rump group on the job site before work begins each morning. Well, maybe that works for stick builders in your part of Florida, eh? Slow learners, huh? It's always a grin to watch the plutocrats and wannabes put down the difficulties involved in learning how to be a competent building tradesman who works on large commercial buildings. I doubt anyone here could learn or pass the specialty welding requirements involved, for example, in a pharma plant, or a nuclear plant, or the chemistry requirements involved in high strength cold weather mortar mixing or coloration for bricklaying, or the building, running and maintenance of a large-scale power plant. These workers aren't nailing together 2x4's to build the wall frames of a stick built house, or using glue to assembly plumbing pipe. But most of the construction is not in nuclear plants and most commercial buildings are not welded together. Most construction guys build houses or low rise commercial that uses the same techniques. I am IAEI, ICBO and ICC certified in commercial electric along with a Florida license. I do know what is involved. They have even changed the code to allow "glued" plastic pipe and Romex in commercial in most states. Yes, well I am sure everything you know about construction can be taught in one afternoon course at the local JuCo, right? Or perhaps via a popup book. 😀 Who needs apprenticeship programs? -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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