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"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 3/17/2015 6:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 6:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:23:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 12:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:25:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:12:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. === Harry, are you claiming that Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, was responsible for troop deployments to the Middle East? Interesting theory. Does anyone else know this? Yeah Harry thinks the Governor of Florida has the same amount of secret communication as the sitting SoS. **** you can't even see Cuba from here, much less Russia ;-) Funny to watch you righties clamor around yet another Bush, the family that gave us the mess in the middle east. -- Proud to be a Liberal. "Righties clamoring" Harry, you brought it up. Tim, I'm not "clamoring" for another Bush as POTUS. Several of the righties here, though, apparently see him as the last great white male hope. Wait...there's still Neil Bush! So far, it appears the "other" choice is another Clinton who is probably more dishonest than the first. Let's be real here. In my opinion the most dishonest presidents since Nixon about things that matter were Reagan and George W. Bush. -- Sent from my iPhone 6+ |
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On 3/17/2015 7:29 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2015 6:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 6:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:23:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 12:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:25:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:12:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. === Harry, are you claiming that Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, was responsible for troop deployments to the Middle East? Interesting theory. Does anyone else know this? Yeah Harry thinks the Governor of Florida has the same amount of secret communication as the sitting SoS. **** you can't even see Cuba from here, much less Russia ;-) Funny to watch you righties clamor around yet another Bush, the family that gave us the mess in the middle east. -- Proud to be a Liberal. "Righties clamoring" Harry, you brought it up. Tim, I'm not "clamoring" for another Bush as POTUS. Several of the righties here, though, apparently see him as the last great white male hope. Wait...there's still Neil Bush! So far, it appears the "other" choice is another Clinton who is probably more dishonest than the first. Let's be real here. In my opinion the most dishonest presidents since Nixon about things that matter were Reagan and George W. Bush. That could be debated forever. Meanwhile, step back and consider the forest rather than the trees. Under who's administrations in the 20th and 21st centuries has the USA enjoyed the greatest economic prosperity, security and global respect? Clue: It certainly hasn't been in the past 6 years. |
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On 3/17/15 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/17/2015 7:29 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2015 6:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 6:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:23:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 12:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:25:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:12:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. === Harry, are you claiming that Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, was responsible for troop deployments to the Middle East? Interesting theory. Does anyone else know this? Yeah Harry thinks the Governor of Florida has the same amount of secret communication as the sitting SoS. **** you can't even see Cuba from here, much less Russia ;-) Funny to watch you righties clamor around yet another Bush, the family that gave us the mess in the middle east. -- Proud to be a Liberal. "Righties clamoring" Harry, you brought it up. Tim, I'm not "clamoring" for another Bush as POTUS. Several of the righties here, though, apparently see him as the last great white male hope. Wait...there's still Neil Bush! So far, it appears the "other" choice is another Clinton who is probably more dishonest than the first. Let's be real here. In my opinion the most dishonest presidents since Nixon about things that matter were Reagan and George W. Bush. That could be debated forever. Meanwhile, step back and consider the forest rather than the trees. Under who's administrations in the 20th and 21st centuries has the USA enjoyed the greatest economic prosperity, security and global respect? Clue: It certainly hasn't been in the past 6 years. It certainly wasn't during the G.W. Bush administration. His legacy was was an economic, diplomatic, and military mess. Interestingly, you switched topics from presidential honesty to how wonderful Reagan was. There are those who say his administration's playing footsie with the Iranians and with Hezbollah and then, of course, with the Contras, showed how unreliable and untrustworthy the U.S. was, and gave Saddam Hussein the feeling that he ought to "do something" to further secure his reign against the Iranians and others by moving against Kuwait a few years later and therefore the Reagan Administration's actions to assist Iran set up G.H.W. Bush's first Gulf War against Iraq. I think Reagan knew what was going on with the Iranian scandal, despite his denials. I can't make up my mind whether "Dubya" really had any concept of the havoc, short and long term, that would result from his Iraqi war. That Bush is either the biggest liar of any president since, oh, LBJ, or the dumbest and most naive. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 9:27:05 AM UTC-4, Keyser Söze wrote:
I think Reagan knew what was going on with the Iranian scandal, despite his denials. I can't make up my mind whether "Dubya" really had any concept of the havoc, short and long term, that would result from his Iraqi war. That Bush is either the biggest liar of any president since, oh, LBJ, or the dumbest and most naive. Were the dems that were calling for, and approved of, the Iraqi war dumb or naive? |
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On 3/17/2015 9:27 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/17/15 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/17/2015 7:29 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2015 6:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 6:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:23:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 12:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:25:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:12:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. === Harry, are you claiming that Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, was responsible for troop deployments to the Middle East? Interesting theory. Does anyone else know this? Yeah Harry thinks the Governor of Florida has the same amount of secret communication as the sitting SoS. **** you can't even see Cuba from here, much less Russia ;-) Funny to watch you righties clamor around yet another Bush, the family that gave us the mess in the middle east. -- Proud to be a Liberal. "Righties clamoring" Harry, you brought it up. Tim, I'm not "clamoring" for another Bush as POTUS. Several of the righties here, though, apparently see him as the last great white male hope. Wait...there's still Neil Bush! So far, it appears the "other" choice is another Clinton who is probably more dishonest than the first. Let's be real here. In my opinion the most dishonest presidents since Nixon about things that matter were Reagan and George W. Bush. That could be debated forever. Meanwhile, step back and consider the forest rather than the trees. Under who's administrations in the 20th and 21st centuries has the USA enjoyed the greatest economic prosperity, security and global respect? Clue: It certainly hasn't been in the past 6 years. It certainly wasn't during the G.W. Bush administration. His legacy was was an economic, diplomatic, and military mess. Interestingly, you switched topics from presidential honesty to how wonderful Reagan was. There are those who say his administration's playing footsie with the Iranians and with Hezbollah and then, of course, with the Contras, showed how unreliable and untrustworthy the U.S. was, and gave Saddam Hussein the feeling that he ought to "do something" to further secure his reign against the Iranians and others by moving against Kuwait a few years later and therefore the Reagan Administration's actions to assist Iran set up G.H.W. Bush's first Gulf War against Iraq. I think Reagan knew what was going on with the Iranian scandal, despite his denials. I can't make up my mind whether "Dubya" really had any concept of the havoc, short and long term, that would result from his Iraqi war. That Bush is either the biggest liar of any president since, oh, LBJ, or the dumbest and most naive. Covert operations, including random payoffs are nothing new and continue to this day. Difference today is they are often conducted by the CIA using private contractors in order to avoid any official connection to the US government. |
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On 3/17/2015 9:27 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/17/15 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/17/2015 7:29 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2015 6:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 6:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:23:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 12:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:25:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:12:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. === Harry, are you claiming that Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, was responsible for troop deployments to the Middle East? Interesting theory. Does anyone else know this? Yeah Harry thinks the Governor of Florida has the same amount of secret communication as the sitting SoS. **** you can't even see Cuba from here, much less Russia ;-) Funny to watch you righties clamor around yet another Bush, the family that gave us the mess in the middle east. -- Proud to be a Liberal. "Righties clamoring" Harry, you brought it up. Tim, I'm not "clamoring" for another Bush as POTUS. Several of the righties here, though, apparently see him as the last great white male hope. Wait...there's still Neil Bush! So far, it appears the "other" choice is another Clinton who is probably more dishonest than the first. Let's be real here. In my opinion the most dishonest presidents since Nixon about things that matter were Reagan and George W. Bush. That could be debated forever. Meanwhile, step back and consider the forest rather than the trees. Under who's administrations in the 20th and 21st centuries has the USA enjoyed the greatest economic prosperity, security and global respect? Clue: It certainly hasn't been in the past 6 years. It certainly wasn't during the G.W. Bush administration. His legacy was was an economic, diplomatic, and military mess. Interestingly, you switched topics from presidential honesty to how wonderful Reagan was. There are those who say his administration's playing footsie with the Iranians and with Hezbollah and then, of course, with the Contras, showed how unreliable and untrustworthy the U.S. was, and gave Saddam Hussein the feeling that he ought to "do something" to further secure his reign against the Iranians and others by moving against Kuwait a few years later and therefore the Reagan Administration's actions to assist Iran set up G.H.W. Bush's first Gulf War against Iraq. I think Reagan knew what was going on with the Iranian scandal, despite his denials. I can't make up my mind whether "Dubya" really had any concept of the havoc, short and long term, that would result from his Iraqi war. That Bush is either the biggest liar of any president since, oh, LBJ, or the dumbest and most naive. You can't even figure out how to manage your own life, and you want us to believe you know how national and world affairs should be conducted? You're a joke, Harry Krause. -- Respectfully submitted by Justan Laugh of the day from Krause "I'm not to blame anymore for the atmosphere in here. I've been "born again" as a nice guy." |
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Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/17/15 8:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 3/17/2015 7:29 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2015 6:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 6:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:23:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 12:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:25:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:12:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. === Harry, are you claiming that Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, was responsible for troop deployments to the Middle East? Interesting theory. Does anyone else know this? Yeah Harry thinks the Governor of Florida has the same amount of secret communication as the sitting SoS. **** you can't even see Cuba from here, much less Russia ;-) Funny to watch you righties clamor around yet another Bush, the family that gave us the mess in the middle east. -- Proud to be a Liberal. "Righties clamoring" Harry, you brought it up. Tim, I'm not "clamoring" for another Bush as POTUS. Several of the righties here, though, apparently see him as the last great white male hope. Wait...there's still Neil Bush! So far, it appears the "other" choice is another Clinton who is probably more dishonest than the first. Let's be real here. In my opinion the most dishonest presidents since Nixon about things that matter were Reagan and George W. Bush. That could be debated forever. Meanwhile, step back and consider the forest rather than the trees. Under who's administrations in the 20th and 21st centuries has the USA enjoyed the greatest economic prosperity, security and global respect? Clue: It certainly hasn't been in the past 6 years. It certainly wasn't during the G.W. Bush administration. His legacy was was an economic, diplomatic, and military mess. Interestingly, you switched topics from presidential honesty to how wonderful Reagan was. There are those who say his administration's playing footsie with the Iranians and with Hezbollah and then, of course, with the Contras, showed how unreliable and untrustworthy the U.S. was, and gave Saddam Hussein the feeling that he ought to "do something" to further secure his reign against the Iranians and others by moving against Kuwait a few years later and therefore the Reagan Administration's actions to assist Iran set up G.H.W. Bush's first Gulf War against Iraq. I think Reagan knew what was going on with the Iranian scandal, despite his denials. I can't make up my mind whether "Dubya" really had any concept of the havoc, short and long term, that would result from his Iraqi war. That Bush is either the biggest liar of any president since, oh, LBJ, or the dumbest and most naive. Bill Clinton's legacy was an economic disaster, and did nada about ending war in Iraq. Fact is he waged war for his 8 years. |
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On 17 Mar 2015 11:29:14 GMT, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2015 6:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 6:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:23:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 12:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:25:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:12:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. === Harry, are you claiming that Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, was responsible for troop deployments to the Middle East? Interesting theory. Does anyone else know this? Yeah Harry thinks the Governor of Florida has the same amount of secret communication as the sitting SoS. **** you can't even see Cuba from here, much less Russia ;-) Funny to watch you righties clamor around yet another Bush, the family that gave us the mess in the middle east. -- Proud to be a Liberal. "Righties clamoring" Harry, you brought it up. Tim, I'm not "clamoring" for another Bush as POTUS. Several of the righties here, though, apparently see him as the last great white male hope. Wait...there's still Neil Bush! So far, it appears the "other" choice is another Clinton who is probably more dishonest than the first. Let's be real here. In my opinion the most dishonest presidents since Nixon about things that matter were Reagan and George W. Bush. === You're entitled to your opinions even when they're wrong. You're expertise on dishonesty is beyond question however. |
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On 3/17/2015 7:29 AM, Keyser Söze wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 3/17/2015 6:41 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 6:33 AM, Tim wrote: On Tuesday, March 17, 2015 at 3:23:45 AM UTC-7, Keyser Söze wrote: On 3/17/15 12:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 17 Mar 2015 00:25:19 -0400, Wayne.B wrote: On Mon, 16 Mar 2015 12:12:22 -0400, Keyser Söze wrote: Jeb Bush used his private e-mail account as Florida governor to discuss security and military issues such as troop deployments to the Middle East and the protection of nuclear plants, according to a review of publicly released records. === Harry, are you claiming that Jeb Bush, as governor of Florida, was responsible for troop deployments to the Middle East? Interesting theory. Does anyone else know this? Yeah Harry thinks the Governor of Florida has the same amount of secret communication as the sitting SoS. **** you can't even see Cuba from here, much less Russia ;-) Funny to watch you righties clamor around yet another Bush, the family that gave us the mess in the middle east. -- Proud to be a Liberal. "Righties clamoring" Harry, you brought it up. Tim, I'm not "clamoring" for another Bush as POTUS. Several of the righties here, though, apparently see him as the last great white male hope. Wait...there's still Neil Bush! So far, it appears the "other" choice is another Clinton who is probably more dishonest than the first. Let's be real here. In my opinion the most dishonest presidents since Nixon about things that matter were Reagan and George W. Bush. It's interesting that two of the most respected past presidents by ... John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan .. shared very similar views. Both reduced taxes to spur the economy which lead to solid solid economic growth. Both took strong stances with our enemies which led to international respect ... even by the very enemies that they opposed. Kennedy had his covert failures ... so did Reagan, but both did something far more important. They both created a mood of optimism and pride in most of the population (with some exceptions like you who will find fault with anything republican). |
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