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On 3/5/2015 8:44 AM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... Joe Scarborough had it right this morning on "Morning Joe". With regard to Hillary's emails, her supporters have rallied quickly to excuse the email thing as a minor issue and blames the GOP for blood hunting. Joe's point is spot on. It's not about emails, servers or how long her personal, private server keeps her emails while serving as Secretary of State. She served as SofS from 2009 to 2013. In 2009 federal laws were changed that mandated that official, government emails be sent and received (encryted) via a government email address and on government servers designed to archive and preserve them. It's the law, not a "preference". You actually believe Crazy Joe Scarborough? LOL. Here's the "law" in effect when HRC was Sec of State. BTW, violating this "law" carries no criminal penalty. "According to Section 1236.22 of the 2009 NARA requirements, which Schmidt provided in an email, "Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system." And Hillary did not ensure her official electronic mail messages as SofS were preserved in the "appropriate agency" (meaning federal) record keeping system. She kept them on her own, private server. Only now ... 2 years since she resigned and the emails have been discovered is she offering her screened and approved releases to the State Department. The intent of the law was to make official government related emails available and preserved on government servers, not her own. Government officials and employees are supposed to use a government email address for these correspondences. First, she tried to claim that if she sent an email from her personal email server address to a government email address ... it would be preserved. But that doesn't account for them all. I suppose to the Clintons it matters what "@" means. |
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On Thu, 05 Mar 2015 20:21:14 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 3/5/15 8:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... "According to Section 1236.22 of the 2009 NARA requirements, which Schmidt provided in an email, "Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system." And Hillary did not ensure her official electronic mail messages as SofS were preserved in the "appropriate agency" (meaning federal) record keeping system. And you know this how? And what's the time limit for "ensuring?" This just shows how the "requirement" is weak. Without going into reasons "why" she used her own server for emails - I can think of many - what is "official?" Think about that in the realm of Dept of State, which is rife with "personal" relationships. The Dept of State can *never* operate entirely via gov email. She kept them on her own, private server. Only now ... 2 years since she resigned and the emails have been discovered is she offering her screened and approved releases to the State Department. You get what you get. So it is. That's why you have "memoirs." I'm sure "official business" has all been preserved. The intent of the law was to make official government related emails available and preserved on government servers, not her own. Government officials and employees are supposed to use a government email address for these correspondences. Yes. For "official" business. And I'm sure that business has all been appropriately captured on gov systems. What is it that you want? First, she tried to claim that if she sent an email from her personal email server address to a government email address ... it would be preserved. But that doesn't account for them all. What is "all of them?" A "Happy birthday!" to Angela Merkel? Remember that Joe Scarborough would demand that too. I'm not a fan of the Clintons. But I am resistant to to seeing unfair attacks on anybody. And this just smells like...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. It's Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi of course with Trey Gowdy trying to gin up his reputation. Get original, it's 'Bush, Bush, Bush'. -- Guns don't cause problems. Gun owner *behavior* causes problems. |
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On 3/5/2015 8:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... "According to Section 1236.22 of the 2009 NARA requirements, which Schmidt provided in an email, "Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system." And Hillary did not ensure her official electronic mail messages as SofS were preserved in the "appropriate agency" (meaning federal) record keeping system. And you know this how? And what's the time limit for "ensuring?" This just shows how the "requirement" is weak. Without going into reasons "why" she used her own server for emails - I can think of many - what is "official?" Think about that in the realm of Dept of State, which is rife with "personal" relationships. The Dept of State can *never* operate entirely via gov email. She kept them on her own, private server. Only now ... 2 years since she resigned and the emails have been discovered is she offering her screened and approved releases to the State Department. You get what you get. So it is. That's why you have "memoirs." I'm sure "official business" has all been preserved. The intent of the law was to make official government related emails available and preserved on government servers, not her own. Government officials and employees are supposed to use a government email address for these correspondences. Yes. For "official" business. And I'm sure that business has all been appropriately captured on gov systems. What is it that you want? First, she tried to claim that if she sent an email from her personal email server address to a government email address ... it would be preserved. But that doesn't account for them all. What is "all of them?" A "Happy birthday!" to Angela Merkel? Remember that Joe Scarborough would demand that too. I'm not a fan of the Clintons. But I am resistant to to seeing unfair attacks on anybody. And this just smells like...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Sounds to me like you are searching for justification. The answers to your questions are easily obtained by watching any of the news media outlets ... pro Clinton or not pro Clinton. All have acknowledged that her methods were ... unusual. |
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On 3/5/2015 8:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... "According to Section 1236.22 of the 2009 NARA requirements, which Schmidt provided in an email, "Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system." And Hillary did not ensure her official electronic mail messages as SofS were preserved in the "appropriate agency" (meaning federal) record keeping system. And you know this how? And what's the time limit for "ensuring?" This just shows how the "requirement" is weak. Without going into reasons "why" she used her own server for emails - I can think of many - what is "official?" Think about that in the realm of Dept of State, which is rife with "personal" relationships. The Dept of State can *never* operate entirely via gov email. She kept them on her own, private server. Only now ... 2 years since she resigned and the emails have been discovered is she offering her screened and approved releases to the State Department. You get what you get. So it is. That's why you have "memoirs." I'm sure "official business" has all been preserved. The intent of the law was to make official government related emails available and preserved on government servers, not her own. Government officials and employees are supposed to use a government email address for these correspondences. Yes. For "official" business. And I'm sure OH, you are sure! LOL... No, you are bought and paid for and will say what they tell you to say... that business has all been appropriately captured on gov systems. What is it that you want? First, she tried to claim that if she sent an email from her personal email server address to a government email address ... it would be preserved. But that doesn't account for them all. What is "all of them?" A "Happy birthday!" to Angela Merkel? Remember that Joe Scarborough would demand that too. I'm not a fan of the Clintons. But I am resistant to to seeing unfair attacks on anybody. And this just smells like...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. |
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On 3/5/2015 8:17 PM, Boating All Out wrote:
In article , says... "According to Section 1236.22 of the 2009 NARA requirements, which Schmidt provided in an email, "Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system." And Hillary did not ensure her official electronic mail messages as SofS were preserved in the "appropriate agency" (meaning federal) record keeping system. And you know this how? And what's the time limit for "ensuring?" This just shows how the "requirement" is weak. Without going into reasons "why" she used her own server for emails - I can think of many - what is "official?" Think about that in the realm of Dept of State, which is rife with "personal" relationships. The Dept of State can *never* operate entirely via gov email. She kept them on her own, private server. Only now ... 2 years since she resigned and the emails have been discovered is she offering her screened and approved releases to the State Department. You get what you get. So it is. That's why you have "memoirs." I'm sure "official business" has all been preserved. The intent of the law was to make official government related emails available and preserved on government servers, not her own. Government officials and employees are supposed to use a government email address for these correspondences. Yes. For "official" business. And I'm sure that business has all been appropriately captured on gov systems. What is it that you want? First, she tried to claim that if she sent an email from her personal email server address to a government email address ... it would be preserved. But that doesn't account for them all. What is "all of them?" A "Happy birthday!" to Angela Merkel? Remember that Joe Scarborough would demand that too. I'm not a fan of the Clintons. But I am resistant to to seeing unfair attacks on anybody. And this just smells like...Benghazi, Benghazi, Benghazi. Only liberals would use a deal like Benghazi as a pejorative to mock another crime. Seems military and other officials don't really matter to dems and party line guys like you. |
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On 3/5/2015 9:00 AM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 3/5/2015 8:44 AM, Boating All Out wrote: In article , says... Joe Scarborough had it right this morning on "Morning Joe". With regard to Hillary's emails, her supporters have rallied quickly to excuse the email thing as a minor issue and blames the GOP for blood hunting. Joe's point is spot on. It's not about emails, servers or how long her personal, private server keeps her emails while serving as Secretary of State. She served as SofS from 2009 to 2013. In 2009 federal laws were changed that mandated that official, government emails be sent and received (encryted) via a government email address and on government servers designed to archive and preserve them. It's the law, not a "preference". You actually believe Crazy Joe Scarborough? LOL. Here's the "law" in effect when HRC was Sec of State. BTW, violating this "law" carries no criminal penalty. "According to Section 1236.22 of the 2009 NARA requirements, which Schmidt provided in an email, "Agencies that allow employees to send and receive official electronic mail messages using a system not operated by the agency must ensure that Federal records sent or received on such systems are preserved in the appropriate agency recordkeeping system." And Hillary did not ensure her official electronic mail messages as SofS were preserved in the "appropriate agency" (meaning federal) record keeping system. She kept them on her own, private server. Only now ... 2 years since she resigned and the emails have been discovered is she offering her screened and approved releases to the State Department. The intent of the law was to make official government related emails available and preserved on government servers, not her own. Government officials and employees are supposed to use a government email address for these correspondences. First, she tried to claim that if she sent an email from her personal email server address to a government email address ... it would be preserved. But that doesn't account for them all. I suppose to the Clintons it matters what "@" means. It has been the clinton game for decades to stall long enough to flush and cleanse records... then turn them over with a bit "whoops". You are right Hillary is a lawyer, she knows exactly what she did but also knew a crooked DOJ and Media will give her a pass... |
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