On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup

This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You
notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these
things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4
shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your
nose legal" gun illegal.
I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not
really sure what they are good for.


One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR
type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no
idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights.

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Proud to be a Liberal.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 15:49:26 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

On 2/23/15 11:08 AM, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 07:07:39 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

Greg you're right but I'm thinking more of a dedicated pistol instead of a cut down bullpup

This is just a way to sidestep the ATF short barrel rifle law. You
notice they call those stumpy stocks a "brace" too. Some of these
things accept AR style accessories so you could put a telescoping M4
shoulder stock on most of them but you are then making a "hold your
nose legal" gun illegal.
I think they make these things, just because they can and I am not
really sure what they are good for.


One of the guys I occasionally see out in Virginia has one of those AR
type pistols. I shot a few rounds out of it once. I agree...I have no
idea what they are good for, aside from bragging rights.

Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I
don't know.
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I
don't know.

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They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size
of a wild boar or so.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I
don't know.

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They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size
of a wild boar or so.

Would that not be true of the Ruger Mini-14 also?
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:55:56 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I
don't know.

===

They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size
of a wild boar or so.

Would that not be true of the Ruger Mini-14 also?

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I'd certainly think so but the question was about AR-15 types. I
think a lot of states limit hunting guns to a 5 round magazine so that
could be an issue either way.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:25:51 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I
don't know.

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They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size
of a wild boar or so.
With the right bullet it would certainly take down wood chucks and you
could take the head off a turkey. I am sure a deer would bleed out
without too much of a chase but I think I would want something a tad
heavier if I was shooting at a ****ed off 400 pound tusker coming at
me..

Not to be nit pickin', but he did say 'up to', not 'up to and including'. :)
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

On 2/23/2015 12:27 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:35:30 -0500, John H.
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 09:40:28 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote:

I changed the subject line, since as originally posted it had nothing to
do with me or my interests. I forgot which moron started it.


On 2/23/15 9:27 AM, John H. wrote:
On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:48:16 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 22:22:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 21:21:54 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 22 Feb 2015 20:21:00 -0500, John H.
wrote:

3 Ways to Stop the .223/5.56 (M855) Ammunition Ban

http://blog.cheaperthandirt.com/3-wa...pthe223m855ban

They make is sound like most rifle bullets will not go through both
sides of the level III-A vest..
You really need a ballistic plate to stop a rifle and even then, not
all rifles.

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Are there any handguns set up for the .223/5.56 (M855) round?

Several but this may be ugly enough to attract their attention
http://www.impactguns.com/kel-tec-pl...832000375.aspx


Wow, hadn't seen that one yet. For 'target shooting and hunting'. Wonder how long
before someone sells a front handgrip for the thing.

Whoops. Should have known:

http://snakeriverarms.com/wp-content..._10150_1_7.JPG


I'd heard narcissism's a bitch.

===

You can't really understand the depth of Harry's greatness unless you
studied 4 years of Latin in high school and wrote 20 page book
reports. You'd think that with talent and training like that he would
have gone to Harvard or Princeton on a full scholarship.


Or at least had enough business sense to not go bankrupt twice...

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 3:55:46 PM UTC-8, John H. wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I
don't know.

===

They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size
of a wild boar or so.

Would that not be true of the Ruger Mini-14 also?
--

Guns don't cause problems. The behavior
of certain gun owners causes problems.

Yes it absolutely would. Does wonders on deer too!

On Monday, February 23, 2015 at 5:26:04 PM UTC-8, wrote:
On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I
don't know.

===

They are actually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size
of a wild boar or so.
With the right bullet it would certainly take down wood chucks and you
could take the head off a turkey. I am sure a deer would bleed out
without too much of a chase but I think I would want something a tad
heavier if I was shooting at a ****ed off 400 pound tusker coming at
me..

I wouldn't want to try to tap one charging at me either. A 12g. slug would be more suitable for that task. but It would easily take a wild boar down if you casually whacked it. Especially if you could get the pig behind the ear.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 20:25:51 -0500, wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 18:39:17 -0500, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Mon, 23 Feb 2015 16:16:32 -0500, John H.
wrote:

Seems to be true of pretty much all the AR type guns. Bragging rights. About what, I
don't know.

===

They are astually a decent hunting rifle for anything up to the size
of a wild boar or so.


With the right bullet it would certainly take down wood chucks and you
could take the head off a turkey. I am sure a deer would bleed out
without too much of a chase but I think I would want something a tad
heavier if I was shooting at a ****ed off 400 pound tusker coming at
me..

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Don't forget about the quick follow up shots.

Because of the high velocity they have a lot of striking power.