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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
On 2/8/2015 2:33 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:06:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. OK I'll play. If someone is so mentally damaged that they do not think killing another person is a crime, why would we want them on the planet with us? We certainly do not want them influencing anyone else behavioral or genetically. That logic suggests anyone with a serious physical disability and is dependent on others, including the government, for their welfare should also be "eliminated". Don't need that burden, huh? BTW ... what makes you think mental illness is hereditary? |
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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 2/8/15 12:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. Indeed, our criminal justice system is based upon revenge and bloodthirstyness, with, usually, racism tossed in for good measure. Maybe it is more, put down the mad dog before he bites again. |
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#14
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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
"Mr. Luddite" wrote:
On 2/8/2015 2:33 PM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:06:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. OK I'll play. If someone is so mentally damaged that they do not think killing another person is a crime, why would we want them on the planet with us? We certainly do not want them influencing anyone else behavioral or genetically. That logic suggests anyone with a serious physical disability and is dependent on others, including the government, for their welfare should also be "eliminated". Don't need that burden, huh? BTW ... what makes you think mental illness is hereditary? He stated behavioral as well as genetic. And yes, I think genetics can pass on mental illness. Friend is bipolar. His dad was bipolar and committed suicide early on. His daughter is bipolar. And Gregg stated killing someone. Not just being mentally incapacitated. |
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#15
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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
On 2/8/2015 5:10 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 12:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. Indeed, our criminal justice system is based upon revenge and bloodthirstyness, with, usually, racism tossed in for good measure. Maybe it is more, put down the mad dog before he bites again. I think there should be a line.. like there is now, let the jury decide prison for life or death... At the same time (and this might surprise some here) I feel that killing a cop, fireman, paramedic on duty should always be death penalty, barring any severe circumstances... |
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#16
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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
On 2/8/2015 5:52 PM, Califbill wrote:
"Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 2:33 PM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:06:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. OK I'll play. If someone is so mentally damaged that they do not think killing another person is a crime, why would we want them on the planet with us? We certainly do not want them influencing anyone else behavioral or genetically. That logic suggests anyone with a serious physical disability and is dependent on others, including the government, for their welfare should also be "eliminated". Don't need that burden, huh? BTW ... what makes you think mental illness is hereditary? He stated behavioral as well as genetic. And yes, I think genetics can pass on mental illness. Friend is bipolar. His dad was bipolar and committed suicide early on. His daughter is bipolar. And Gregg stated killing someone. Not just being mentally incapacitated. Seems like *everyone* is bipolar now-a-days. So, you and Greg feel that a person who kills someone but is determined to be insane should just automatically to to the chair ... or lethal injection gurney? |
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#17
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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
On 2/8/15 6:17 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote:
On 2/8/2015 5:52 PM, Califbill wrote: "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 2:33 PM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:06:42 -0500, "Mr. Luddite" wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. OK I'll play. If someone is so mentally damaged that they do not think killing another person is a crime, why would we want them on the planet with us? We certainly do not want them influencing anyone else behavioral or genetically. That logic suggests anyone with a serious physical disability and is dependent on others, including the government, for their welfare should also be "eliminated". Don't need that burden, huh? BTW ... what makes you think mental illness is hereditary? He stated behavioral as well as genetic. And yes, I think genetics can pass on mental illness. Friend is bipolar. His dad was bipolar and committed suicide early on. His daughter is bipolar. And Gregg stated killing someone. Not just being mentally incapacitated. Seems like *everyone* is bipolar now-a-days. So, you and Greg feel that a person who kills someone but is determined to be insane should just automatically to to the chair ... or lethal injection gurney? Kinda of the WWII German approach about the insane...perhaps we can find some surplus Zyklon B at a really low price to satisfy the boys. -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
On 2/8/15 6:15 PM, KC wrote:
On 2/8/2015 5:10 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 12:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. Indeed, our criminal justice system is based upon revenge and bloodthirstyness, with, usually, racism tossed in for good measure. Maybe it is more, put down the mad dog before he bites again. I think there should be a line.. like there is now, let the jury decide prison for life or death... At the same time (and this might surprise some here) I feel that killing a cop, fireman, paramedic on duty should always be death penalty, barring any severe circumstances... How about when a cop kills an unarmed civilian? A bonu$? -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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Chris Kyles killer wants change of venue
On 2/8/15 6:29 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 12:18:37 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 12:06 PM, Mr. Luddite wrote: On 2/8/2015 11:51 AM, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/8/15 11:00 AM, wrote: On Sun, 08 Feb 2015 07:49:33 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 2/7/15 11:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 07 Feb 2015 17:30:16 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: If he's as mentally ill as it sounds, he shouldn't be tried at all. He should be committed. The chance of being "cured" in an asylum is about as good as being rehabilitated in prison. Put him in the chair and tell him it's a ride. How very revealing...execute the mentally ill. Why not? Can you say any murderer is actually sane? I understand you are against the death penalty in all circumstances but the criminally insane should be at the front of the line. Cull the herd, hopefully before they can reproduce. Darwin supports my position on this. Fortunately, most civilized people disagree. The test is if the person committing the crime has the mental capacity to know it's a crime ... or wrong. Indeed, our criminal justice system is based upon revenge and bloodthirstyness, with, usually, racism tossed in for good measure. Kyles killer is a white guy but I understand there is no issue you won't try to insert racism into. I am amused that the same people who will lecture us on Darwin and denigrate intelligent design will quickly put some mystical value on the life of a defective gene holder that is polluting the pool. You have no problem aborting them in the womb on the advice of one doctor but if they get due process and several appeals we still can't kill them once we can prove they do not deserve to breath our air. Did you really want Tim McVeigh to write books and have his own reality show? I said "usually" racism. Usually does not mean always. The rest of your comment is just silly, especially the part about the womb. The murderer obviously passed the military's mental health exams, eh?  -- Proud to be a Liberal. |
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