On 12/25/2014 3:37 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:15:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/25/2014 3:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:26:47 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:04:05 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:20:36 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

It's still hard to beat a Ruger Mark series though...

===

You beat me to it. With a little trigger work, some custom grips, a
barrel weight, and a red dot sight, you'd have a really first class
target gun. One of the guys I shoot against on Wednesday morning has
a Mark III tricked out like that and he's always in the top 3.

Next question - Which one, or are they all pretty much the same?

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apac...016?upc_only=1


===

I really don't know. Lacking any additional info, I would probably
pick this one:

Price: $329.95 Ruger 10101 MKIII512 Mark III Target 22LR 5.5"
10+1 Black Syn Grip

I suspect that if you Google around a little you will probably find
some opinions out there. I have no knowledge at all of the newer
22/45 but the Mark III is certainly tried and true.

I hear they are not the easiest to strip for cleaning.

Easy to strip. A bitch to reassemble!

Well, I went with the Walther. Will give a report on its reassembly
when I get it.


It will be interesting to see how the one you bought breaks down.
On the PPK/2 you pull the trigger guard down and to one side that
then allows you to release the barrel assembly. Very simple.




Here's what I read:

"Disassembly is similar in some respects to a standard 1911. First,
one removes the magazine and disengages the safety. Second, the
recoil spring plug at the muzzle must be depressed and the bushing
rotated. Once these pieces are removed, the recoil spring slides out
easily.

After that point, disassembly is similar to the other Walther .22s –
The slide is pulled back to lock, and the slide release can be pushed
out of the frame. Once you’ve done this, the slide can be pulled back
and off the rails of the frame, then pushed forward to clear the slide
from the barrel."

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...t-1911a1-22lr/

Does that sound the same?



All except the first paragraph.

On 12/25/14 3:38 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:18:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/14 3:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:26:47 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:04:05 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:20:36 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

It's still hard to beat a Ruger Mark series though...

===

You beat me to it. With a little trigger work, some custom grips, a
barrel weight, and a red dot sight, you'd have a really first class
target gun. One of the guys I shoot against on Wednesday morning has
a Mark III tricked out like that and he's always in the top 3.

Next question - Which one, or are they all pretty much the same?

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apac...016?upc_only=1


===

I really don't know. Lacking any additional info, I would probably
pick this one:

Price: $329.95 Ruger 10101 MKIII512 Mark III Target 22LR 5.5"
10+1 Black Syn Grip

I suspect that if you Google around a little you will probably find
some opinions out there. I have no knowledge at all of the newer
22/45 but the Mark III is certainly tried and true.

I hear they are not the easiest to strip for cleaning.

Easy to strip. A bitch to reassemble!

Well, I went with the Walther. Will give a report on its reassembly
when I get it.



The Rugers are easy to reassemble if you follow the simple directions on
the many youtube videos dedicated to that subject. It took me less than
10 minutes to reassemble my Mark III the first time, and a lot less
since then. I doubt I break it down more than once or twice a year.

One of the attractions of the Rugers is that the sight picture remains
constant...there's no external slide on which your sights are mounted
cycling.

One shouldn't have to follow directions on 'many youtube videos' to
disassemble a firearm. But, that's just an opinion.



Not all firearms break down the same way, and it is silly to assume that
because you can break down one style, you're expert at all of firearm
disassembly. The vids are just a teaching tool, and a good one can be
very helpful.

On 12/25/14 4:05 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:15:32 -0500, "Mr. Luddite"
wrote:

On 12/25/2014 3:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:26:47 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:04:05 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:20:36 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

It's still hard to beat a Ruger Mark series though...

===

You beat me to it. With a little trigger work, some custom grips, a
barrel weight, and a red dot sight, you'd have a really first class
target gun. One of the guys I shoot against on Wednesday morning has
a Mark III tricked out like that and he's always in the top 3.

Next question - Which one, or are they all pretty much the same?

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apac...016?upc_only=1


===

I really don't know. Lacking any additional info, I would probably
pick this one:

Price: $329.95 Ruger 10101 MKIII512 Mark III Target 22LR 5.5"
10+1 Black Syn Grip

I suspect that if you Google around a little you will probably find
some opinions out there. I have no knowledge at all of the newer
22/45 but the Mark III is certainly tried and true.

I hear they are not the easiest to strip for cleaning.

Easy to strip. A bitch to reassemble!

Well, I went with the Walther. Will give a report on its reassembly
when I get it.


It will be interesting to see how the one you bought breaks down.
On the PPK/2 you pull the trigger guard down and to one side that
then allows you to release the barrel assembly. Very simple.

The easiest one I have is the 1934 Baretta. You lock the slide back,
knock the barrel out of the groove in the receiver and release the
slide. It just comes apart. To reassemble you put the spring on the
rod, put the rod in the slide and lock it back, start the barrel in
the groove and release the slide. That knocks the barrel back into
position.



The CZ pistols are...different!

On 12/25/2014 4:08 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/25/14 3:38 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:18:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/14 3:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:26:47 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:04:05 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:20:36 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Tim

wrote:

It's still hard to beat a Ruger Mark series though...

===

You beat me to it. With a little trigger work, some custom
grips, a
barrel weight, and a red dot sight, you'd have a really first
class
target gun. One of the guys I shoot against on Wednesday
morning has
a Mark III tricked out like that and he's always in the top 3.

Next question - Which one, or are they all pretty much the same?

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apac...016?upc_only=1



===

I really don't know. Lacking any additional info, I would probably
pick this one:

Price: $329.95 Ruger 10101 MKIII512 Mark III Target 22LR 5.5"
10+1 Black Syn Grip

I suspect that if you Google around a little you will probably find
some opinions out there. I have no knowledge at all of the newer
22/45 but the Mark III is certainly tried and true.

I hear they are not the easiest to strip for cleaning.

Easy to strip. A bitch to reassemble!

Well, I went with the Walther. Will give a report on its reassembly
when I get it.



The Rugers are easy to reassemble if you follow the simple directions on
the many youtube videos dedicated to that subject. It took me less than
10 minutes to reassemble my Mark III the first time, and a lot less
since then. I doubt I break it down more than once or twice a year.

One of the attractions of the Rugers is that the sight picture remains
constant...there's no external slide on which your sights are mounted
cycling.

One shouldn't have to follow directions on 'many youtube videos' to
disassemble a firearm. But, that's just an opinion.



Not all firearms break down the same way, and it is silly to assume that
because you can break down one style, you're expert at all of firearm
disassembly. The vids are just a teaching tool, and a good one can be
very helpful.


First thing I do when I buy a new firearm is to Google up break down and
re-assembly videos on Youtube. Saves a lot of time and frustration.

On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:38:52 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:18:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/14 3:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:26:47 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:04:05 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:20:36 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

It's still hard to beat a Ruger Mark series though...

===

You beat me to it. With a little trigger work, some custom grips, a
barrel weight, and a red dot sight, you'd have a really first class
target gun. One of the guys I shoot against on Wednesday morning has
a Mark III tricked out like that and he's always in the top 3.

Next question - Which one, or are they all pretty much the same?

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apac...016?upc_only=1


===

I really don't know. Lacking any additional info, I would probably
pick this one:

Price: $329.95 Ruger 10101 MKIII512 Mark III Target 22LR 5.5"
10+1 Black Syn Grip

I suspect that if you Google around a little you will probably find
some opinions out there. I have no knowledge at all of the newer
22/45 but the Mark III is certainly tried and true.

I hear they are not the easiest to strip for cleaning.

Easy to strip. A bitch to reassemble!

Well, I went with the Walther. Will give a report on its reassembly
when I get it.



The Rugers are easy to reassemble if you follow the simple directions on
the many youtube videos dedicated to that subject. It took me less than
10 minutes to reassemble my Mark III the first time, and a lot less
since then. I doubt I break it down more than once or twice a year.

One of the attractions of the Rugers is that the sight picture remains
constant...there's no external slide on which your sights are mounted
cycling.

One shouldn't have to follow directions on 'many youtube videos' to
disassemble a firearm. But, that's just an opinion.

===

Of course you could learn to reassemble a Ruger III without watching a
YouTube video but it's one of those cases where a picture is worth a
thousand words. There's one little trick required to get the hammer
in the right position but other than that it is very straight forward.

On Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:37:27 PM UTC-8, Wayne. B wrote:
On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:38:52 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Thu, 25 Dec 2014 15:18:54 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/25/14 3:09 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:26:47 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:04:05 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:20:36 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

It's still hard to beat a Ruger Mark series though...

===

You beat me to it. With a little trigger work, some custom grips, a
barrel weight, and a red dot sight, you'd have a really first class
target gun. One of the guys I shoot against on Wednesday morning has
a Mark III tricked out like that and he's always in the top 3.

Next question - Which one, or are they all pretty much the same?

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apac...016?upc_only=1


===

I really don't know. Lacking any additional info, I would probably
pick this one:

Price: $329.95 Ruger 10101 MKIII512 Mark III Target 22LR 5.5"
10+1 Black Syn Grip

I suspect that if you Google around a little you will probably find
some opinions out there. I have no knowledge at all of the newer
22/45 but the Mark III is certainly tried and true.

I hear they are not the easiest to strip for cleaning.

Easy to strip. A bitch to reassemble!

Well, I went with the Walther. Will give a report on its reassembly
when I get it.



The Rugers are easy to reassemble if you follow the simple directions on
the many youtube videos dedicated to that subject. It took me less than
10 minutes to reassemble my Mark III the first time, and a lot less
since then. I doubt I break it down more than once or twice a year.

One of the attractions of the Rugers is that the sight picture remains
constant...there's no external slide on which your sights are mounted
cycling.

One shouldn't have to follow directions on 'many youtube videos' to
disassemble a firearm. But, that's just an opinion.

===

Of course you could learn to reassemble a Ruger III without watching a
YouTube video but it's one of those cases where a picture is worth a
thousand words. There's one little trick required to get the hammer
in the right position but other than that it is very straight forward.

from experience, I heartily agree with that 'one little trick'

Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 20:26:47 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

Let it snowe wrote:
On 12/22/2014 11:20 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 18:04:05 -0800 (PST), John H
wrote:

On Monday, December 22, 2014 8:20:36 PM UTC-5, Wayne. B wrote:
On Mon, 22 Dec 2014 14:49:08 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

It's still hard to beat a Ruger Mark series though...
===

You beat me to it. With a little trigger work, some custom grips, a
barrel weight, and a red dot sight, you'd have a really first class
target gun. One of the guys I shoot against on Wednesday morning has
a Mark III tricked out like that and he's always in the top 3.
Next question - Which one, or are they all pretty much the same?

http://www.slickguns.com/search/apac...016?upc_only=1

===

I really don't know. Lacking any additional info, I would probably
pick this one:

Price: $329.95 Ruger 10101 MKIII512 Mark III Target 22LR 5.5"
10+1 Black Syn Grip

I suspect that if you Google around a little you will probably find
some opinions out there. I have no knowledge at all of the newer
22/45 but the Mark III is certainly tried and true.

I hear they are not the easiest to strip for cleaning.

Easy to strip. A bitch to reassemble!
Well, I went with the Walther. Will give a report on its reassembly
when I get it.
It has a lot of very good reviews and I'm sure it's much easier to
reassemble than the Ruger MK's.

On Fri, 26 Dec 2014 20:39:13 -0500, Someone Else
wrote:

It has a lot of very good reviews and I'm sure it's much easier to
reassemble than the Ruger MK's.

===

As I've said before, reassembly of the Rugers is easy once you know
how to do it. I'd agree that it's not intuitively obvious however.

wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 12:32:40 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/14 12:30 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 12:21:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/14 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:13:35 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:09:12 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 09:39:20 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


I wouldn't mind spending some vacation time in Montana, especially after
reading Norman Maclean's wonderfully descriptive writings.

Montana is nice but good accommodations are particularly pricy. You
jump straight from the "Super 8" to $300 a night in the places we
were. There are lots of wild woods camping opportunities tho if that
works for you. Yeah me neither ;-)
There are lots of great hiking trails but you have to look for them.
They are not all that well documented. If you like falling water and
walking on trails by yourself it is worth looking.

Sounds like a great place to take an RV.

Yup there are plenty of opportunities to go off the grid for a night
or two and then get to a full service park to freshen up the RV.



The maid doesn't come into the RV the morning, make up the beds, vacuum,
clean the bathroom, take out the trash?

In an RV, doing all that takes only about a half hour. Not worth
hiring a maid for.


Ahh, so there is more time to order breakfast from room service!

We rented houses in Montana and we did not get any of those things.
Plenty of room to spread out tho and lots of privacy.

Our nearest neighbor in Paradise Valley. (near Yellowstone)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/montana/Par.../SE%20View.jpg

This is the house we rented in Bad Rock (near Glacier NP)
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/montana/Bad...ry%20House.jpg

This was the view from the front porch
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/montana/Badrock/horses.jpg

We have done both. Nice place to visit as long as it is not winter. My
parents and brother are from Western Nebraska. Actually a very interesting
area. The sand hills. But mom stated it was -42f one day where she grew
up. About 8 miles from Henry, NE 1.5 miles from the Wyoming border. No
thanks. Born and raised in the Berkeley, CA. It got maybe 29f once a year
and that was cold enough. As to RV etc. have had both RV and truck
camper. Both are nice. Truck camper gives good mobility, back roads
areas. And cheaper than hotels. And I do treat the wife to B&B's on our
trips.

Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/24/14 12:30 PM, Poquito Loco wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 12:21:11 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:

On 12/24/14 11:56 AM, wrote:
On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:13:35 -0500, Poquito Loco
wrote:

On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 11:09:12 -0500, wrote:

On Wed, 24 Dec 2014 09:39:20 -0500, Keyser Söze
wrote:


I wouldn't mind spending some vacation time in Montana, especially after
reading Norman Maclean's wonderfully descriptive writings.

Montana is nice but good accommodations are particularly pricy. You
jump straight from the "Super 8" to $300 a night in the places we
were. There are lots of wild woods camping opportunities tho if that
works for you. Yeah me neither ;-)
There are lots of great hiking trails but you have to look for them.
They are not all that well documented. If you like falling water and
walking on trails by yourself it is worth looking.

Sounds like a great place to take an RV.

Yup there are plenty of opportunities to go off the grid for a night
or two and then get to a full service park to freshen up the RV.



The maid doesn't come into the RV the morning, make up the beds, vacuum,
clean the bathroom, take out the trash?

In an RV, doing all that takes only about a half hour. Not worth
hiring a maid for.


Ahh, so there is more time to order breakfast from room service!

Who the hell wants to eat in their room?