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Keyser SÃ¶ze wrote:
On 12/14/14 6:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser SÃ¶ze wrote:
On 12/14/14 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser SÃ¶ze wrote:
On 12/13/14 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:14:18 -0500, Keyser SÃ¶ze
wrote:

On 12/13/14 1:58 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:22:42 -0500, Keyser SÃ¶ze
wrote:

On 12/13/14 12:59 PM, wrote:

I must say, your "reads" on history are amusing, including your
recitation of the plot of the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora," (one of my
favorites), and your assertion that all the wars of the 20th century in
which the U.S. was directly involved were somehow the fault of
presidents of the Democratic Party. Perhaps that sort of thinking is the
result of reading a book or two without the discipline imposed by formal
instruction, reading lists, and intensive discussion one might find in
decent, college-level, liberal arts courses, eh?

I recall a college-level class in German in which someone posited that
the reason Germany had been involved in so many horrific wars, including
WWII, had *only* to do with that nation's desire to extend its geography
to "protect" German nationals in other countries, and to create a buffer
for the homeland. Well, of course, that was hogwash, and fellow was
hooted in class for the day. I think it might have been the instructor
who said that, actually. He was a German ex-pat, and though he was far
too young to have been involved in WWII, he apparently took some of what
Hitler had "speechified" to heart.

In any event, I enjoy your dissertations...for a while, anyway.

You never pointed out anything I said that was not true.

Oh, really? Gosh. Well, then, let's post an example that shoots your
comment about U.S. wars in the 20th Century/Democratic presidents to
hell in a handbasket.

How about...the *first* Gulf War, kinda planned in the Reagan
misadministration and planned for real and executed in the G. H. W. Bush
administration.

How many Americans died in the first gulf war?

What? Are you now claiming that the first gulf war doesn't count as a
war stated under a Republican president because not enough Americans died?

It is the excuse you guys use when anyone wants to bring up Kosovo,
Haiti or Somalia.

Well, of course, because in everything important, Kosovo, Haiti, and
Somalia, and the first Gulf War are all equivalents in the non-critical
loonytarian mind.

You are the one trying to equate a 100 hour war in Kuwait with a 10
year war in Vietnam and a war in Korea that is still technically going
on. We are simply in a cease fire.

No I am not. I am simply pointing out the error of a previous comment of
yours, you know, the one in which you claimed that *all* our wars in the
previous century were initiated during the presidencies of Democrats. And
please don't tell me that Jimmy Carter was responsible for that war.

Carter is responsible for lots of the present wars! He basically showed we
would do nothing if we were attacked. A year of hostages in our embassy?
Ghengis Khan would have laid waste to Iran. Fact is he did it over his
ambassadors being killed back in the 1200's.

Carter is responsible for none of the hostages Iran held being executed,
and Reagan is responsible for selling us out in Iran.

He is responsible for ambassadors and others being killed. He should have
stated to the Iranians that he would mimic Ghengis Khan and level both
Tehran and the holy city where Khomeini was hanging out. And proceeded to
do that if they were not released or were killed. They mostly understand
brute power in that region. Is why when there are feuds they kill all of
the family, so there will be no reprisals.

So, you must really be upset that your idol, President Alzheimer's, did
virtually nothing after 240 American and 60 French service personnel were
killed in Beirut during a bomb attack a few years later, because that
even was even worse than the zero Americans killed during the Iranian hostage crisis.

Right?

Different situation. Totally! And if Carter had taken care of business
earlier probably would not happen.

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