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Torturing SOB's
On 12/14/14 6:09 PM, Califbill wrote:
Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/14/14 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 8:50 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:14:18 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 1:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:22:42 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 12:59 PM, wrote: I must say, your "reads" on history are amusing, including your recitation of the plot of the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora," (one of my favorites), and your assertion that all the wars of the 20th century in which the U.S. was directly involved were somehow the fault of presidents of the Democratic Party. Perhaps that sort of thinking is the result of reading a book or two without the discipline imposed by formal instruction, reading lists, and intensive discussion one might find in decent, college-level, liberal arts courses, eh? :) I recall a college-level class in German in which someone posited that the reason Germany had been involved in so many horrific wars, including WWII, had *only* to do with that nation's desire to extend its geography to "protect" German nationals in other countries, and to create a buffer for the homeland. Well, of course, that was hogwash, and fellow was hooted in class for the day. I think it might have been the instructor who said that, actually. He was a German ex-pat, and though he was far too young to have been involved in WWII, he apparently took some of what Hitler had "speechified" to heart. In any event, I enjoy your dissertations...for a while, anyway. :) You never pointed out anything I said that was not true. Oh, really? Gosh. Well, then, let's post an example that shoots your comment about U.S. wars in the 20th Century/Democratic presidents to hell in a handbasket. How about...the *first* Gulf War, kinda planned in the Reagan misadministration and planned for real and executed in the G. H. W. Bush administration. How many Americans died in the first gulf war? What? Are you now claiming that the first gulf war doesn't count as a war stated under a Republican president because not enough Americans died? It is the excuse you guys use when anyone wants to bring up Kosovo, Haiti or Somalia. Well, of course, because in everything important, Kosovo, Haiti, and Somalia, and the first Gulf War are all equivalents in the non-critical loonytarian mind. You are the one trying to equate a 100 hour war in Kuwait with a 10 year war in Vietnam and a war in Korea that is still technically going on. We are simply in a cease fire. No I am not. I am simply pointing out the error of a previous comment of yours, you know, the one in which you claimed that *all* our wars in the previous century were initiated during the presidencies of Democrats. And please don't tell me that Jimmy Carter was responsible for that war. Carter is responsible for lots of the present wars! He basically showed we would do nothing if we were attacked. A year of hostages in our embassy? Ghengis Khan would have laid waste to Iran. Fact is he did it over his ambassadors being killed back in the 1200's. Carter is responsible for none of the hostages Iran held being executed, and Reagan is responsible for selling us out in Iran. He is responsible for ambassadors and others being killed. He should have stated to the Iranians that he would mimic Ghengis Khan and level both Tehran and the holy city where Khomeini was hanging out. And proceeded to do that if they were not released or were killed. They mostly understand brute power in that region. Is why when there are feuds they kill all of the family, so there will be no reprisals. So, you must really be upset that your idol, President Alzheimer's, did virtually nothing after 240 American and 60 French service personnel were killed in Beirut during a bomb attack a few years later, because that even was even worse than the zero Americans killed during the Iranian hostage crisis. Right? -- Let’s elect a gay black woman with a latino lover president, if only for the possibility of provoking a right-wing mass suicide. |
Torturing SOB's
On 12/14/2014 6:39 PM, Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/14/14 6:09 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/14/14 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 8:50 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:14:18 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 1:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:22:42 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 12:59 PM, wrote: I must say, your "reads" on history are amusing, including your recitation of the plot of the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora," (one of my favorites), and your assertion that all the wars of the 20th century in which the U.S. was directly involved were somehow the fault of presidents of the Democratic Party. Perhaps that sort of thinking is the result of reading a book or two without the discipline imposed by formal instruction, reading lists, and intensive discussion one might find in decent, college-level, liberal arts courses, eh? :) I recall a college-level class in German in which someone posited that the reason Germany had been involved in so many horrific wars, including WWII, had *only* to do with that nation's desire to extend its geography to "protect" German nationals in other countries, and to create a buffer for the homeland. Well, of course, that was hogwash, and fellow was hooted in class for the day. I think it might have been the instructor who said that, actually. He was a German ex-pat, and though he was far too young to have been involved in WWII, he apparently took some of what Hitler had "speechified" to heart. In any event, I enjoy your dissertations...for a while, anyway. :) You never pointed out anything I said that was not true. Oh, really? Gosh. Well, then, let's post an example that shoots your comment about U.S. wars in the 20th Century/Democratic presidents to hell in a handbasket. How about...the *first* Gulf War, kinda planned in the Reagan misadministration and planned for real and executed in the G. H. W. Bush administration. How many Americans died in the first gulf war? What? Are you now claiming that the first gulf war doesn't count as a war stated under a Republican president because not enough Americans died? It is the excuse you guys use when anyone wants to bring up Kosovo, Haiti or Somalia. Well, of course, because in everything important, Kosovo, Haiti, and Somalia, and the first Gulf War are all equivalents in the non-critical loonytarian mind. You are the one trying to equate a 100 hour war in Kuwait with a 10 year war in Vietnam and a war in Korea that is still technically going on. We are simply in a cease fire. No I am not. I am simply pointing out the error of a previous comment of yours, you know, the one in which you claimed that *all* our wars in the previous century were initiated during the presidencies of Democrats. And please don't tell me that Jimmy Carter was responsible for that war. Carter is responsible for lots of the present wars! He basically showed we would do nothing if we were attacked. A year of hostages in our embassy? Ghengis Khan would have laid waste to Iran. Fact is he did it over his ambassadors being killed back in the 1200's. Carter is responsible for none of the hostages Iran held being executed, and Reagan is responsible for selling us out in Iran. He is responsible for ambassadors and others being killed. He should have stated to the Iranians that he would mimic Ghengis Khan and level both Tehran and the holy city where Khomeini was hanging out. And proceeded to do that if they were not released or were killed. They mostly understand brute power in that region. Is why when there are feuds they kill all of the family, so there will be no reprisals. So, you must really be upset that your idol, President Alzheimer's, did virtually nothing after 240 American and 60 French service personnel were killed in Beirut during a bomb attack a few years later, because that even was even worse than the zero Americans killed during the Iranian hostage crisis. Right? -- Patriotic Americans dump on Krause. |
Torturing SOB's
Keyser Söze wrote:
On 12/14/14 6:09 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/14/14 1:04 PM, Califbill wrote: Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 8:50 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 14:14:18 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 1:58 PM, wrote: On Sat, 13 Dec 2014 13:22:42 -0500, Keyser Söze wrote: On 12/13/14 12:59 PM, wrote: I must say, your "reads" on history are amusing, including your recitation of the plot of the movie "Tora, Tora, Tora," (one of my favorites), and your assertion that all the wars of the 20th century in which the U.S. was directly involved were somehow the fault of presidents of the Democratic Party. Perhaps that sort of thinking is the result of reading a book or two without the discipline imposed by formal instruction, reading lists, and intensive discussion one might find in decent, college-level, liberal arts courses, eh? :) I recall a college-level class in German in which someone posited that the reason Germany had been involved in so many horrific wars, including WWII, had *only* to do with that nation's desire to extend its geography to "protect" German nationals in other countries, and to create a buffer for the homeland. Well, of course, that was hogwash, and fellow was hooted in class for the day. I think it might have been the instructor who said that, actually. He was a German ex-pat, and though he was far too young to have been involved in WWII, he apparently took some of what Hitler had "speechified" to heart. In any event, I enjoy your dissertations...for a while, anyway. :) You never pointed out anything I said that was not true. Oh, really? Gosh. Well, then, let's post an example that shoots your comment about U.S. wars in the 20th Century/Democratic presidents to hell in a handbasket. How about...the *first* Gulf War, kinda planned in the Reagan misadministration and planned for real and executed in the G. H. W. Bush administration. How many Americans died in the first gulf war? What? Are you now claiming that the first gulf war doesn't count as a war stated under a Republican president because not enough Americans died? It is the excuse you guys use when anyone wants to bring up Kosovo, Haiti or Somalia. Well, of course, because in everything important, Kosovo, Haiti, and Somalia, and the first Gulf War are all equivalents in the non-critical loonytarian mind. You are the one trying to equate a 100 hour war in Kuwait with a 10 year war in Vietnam and a war in Korea that is still technically going on. We are simply in a cease fire. No I am not. I am simply pointing out the error of a previous comment of yours, you know, the one in which you claimed that *all* our wars in the previous century were initiated during the presidencies of Democrats. And please don't tell me that Jimmy Carter was responsible for that war. Carter is responsible for lots of the present wars! He basically showed we would do nothing if we were attacked. A year of hostages in our embassy? Ghengis Khan would have laid waste to Iran. Fact is he did it over his ambassadors being killed back in the 1200's. Carter is responsible for none of the hostages Iran held being executed, and Reagan is responsible for selling us out in Iran. He is responsible for ambassadors and others being killed. He should have stated to the Iranians that he would mimic Ghengis Khan and level both Tehran and the holy city where Khomeini was hanging out. And proceeded to do that if they were not released or were killed. They mostly understand brute power in that region. Is why when there are feuds they kill all of the family, so there will be no reprisals. So, you must really be upset that your idol, President Alzheimer's, did virtually nothing after 240 American and 60 French service personnel were killed in Beirut during a bomb attack a few years later, because that even was even worse than the zero Americans killed during the Iranian hostage crisis. Right? Different situation. Totally! And if Carter had taken care of business earlier probably would not happen. |
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